A High Priority, please, for The Apocrypha: The Lutheran Edition with Notes

Peace and Joy to my Logos Forums Brothers and Sisters! *smile*
For financial reasons I need to wait for the digital work; and I hope it is relatively soon. Concordia Publishing House has a good record of working with Logos Bible Software and some truly great works. No reason to believe that this book won't be coming soon, I guess; but I'm a bit "antsy" about it! *smile*
- ESV text
- Lutheran notes
- Maps
- Charts
- Illustrations
- Book introductions
- Helpful articles
Some endorsements:
Endorsements—The Apocrypha: The Lutheran Edition with Notes
—James H. Charlesworth
Director and Editor, Princeton Dead Sea Scrolls Project
George L. Collord Professor of New Testament Language and Literature
Princeton University, Princeton, New Jersey
"Quite likely, The Apocrypha: The Lutheran Edition with Notes is the product of one of the most ambitious projects dealing with the Apocrypha ever undertaken. Not only does it offer an unfailingly accurate translation of the various texts involved, via the English Standard Version, but it is also replete with scholarly notes and commentary to assist the reader—lay or professional—in every way possible."
—From the foreword by Rev. Paul L. Maier, PhD
The Russell H. Seibert Professor of Ancient History
Western Michigan University
—Prof. Emanuel Tov, PhD
J. L. Magnes Professor of Bible
Hebrew University, Jerusalem
—Rev. Craig A. Evans, PhD
Payzant Distinguished Professor of New Testament
Acadia Divinity College, Nova Scotia, Canada
—Prof. Dr. Volker Leppin
Eberhard Karls Universität
Tübingen, Germany
—Knut Alfsvåg, ThD
Professor of Systematic Theology
School of Mission and Theology, Stavanger, Norway
—Daniel C. Harlow, PhD
Professor of Religion, Calvin College
Editor, The Eerdmans Dictionary of Early Judaism
Philippians 4: 4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........
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Were I able to prioritize things my wish would put this item Just below the New Interpreter's Bible and right above the REB+NEB translations. I will gladly put this into my pre pub even if there is no discount offered off the list price.
-Dan
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Dan Francis said:
Were I able to prioritize things my wish would put this item Just below the New Interpreter's Bible and right above the REB+NEB translations. I will gladly put this into my pre pub even if there is no discount offered off the list price.
-Dan
Yes, Dan! Gladly! Me too! *smile* Peace!
(BTW, did you hear of the Sunday School child who came home and told Mommy they had studied about a bear in Sunday School. The mother enquired of the pastor who said, "Well, I'm not quite sure exactly what your child is referring to; however, we did sing "Gladly, The Cross I'd Bear" yesterday morning.????)
Philippians 4: 4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........
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Definitely in the works, folks. Look for it in early 2013.
Paul McCain
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Concordia Publishing House
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Paul, Thank you so very much! Indeed! Great news! Well done by you and your compatriots and very much appreciated! Some truly amazing endorsements! Wow! Again .... Well Done! Peace to you! .... and .... Always Joy in the Lord! *smile*
Philippians 4: 4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........
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Here it is: http://www.logos.com/product/28436/the-apocrypha-the-lutheran-edition-with-notes
Thank you very much!
Faithlife Connect + several Base Packages + Luther's Works, etc.
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Bump!
It's in development Perhaps it won't be too much longer??? *smile*
Philippians 4: 4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........
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Paul,
Any thoughts or insights on the status of this? The bar from "pre-pub" moved along well in January and February but once it reached the end with the current "Under Development", it appears "stuck" there for about 6 months or so.
Looking forward to it.
Scott
https://www.logos.com/product/28436/the-apocrypha-the-lutheran-edition-with-notes
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Ok, so it's been over 10 months this was introduced as a pre-pub and it's reached the "end of the green line" progression to the "under contract" for around six months...
ANY WORD ON THIS?
It seems "stuck" or "forgotten." Is there a remedy for that?
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Peace, Scott! Stuck indeed! Hope NOT forgotten! *smile*
Am eagerly looking forward to this one ... Logos and CPH should sell lots of these, and I'm sure they want it to "fly" soon, eh?
Just looked again at the Logos.com info ......... Did you see some of the "praise" comments? Wow!
Praise for the Print Edition
The introductions are superbly well written and engaging. One can see how the Apocrypha . . . bridges the ‘Old’ Testament with the ‘New’ Testament. Highly recommended, as Athanasius said in 367 ‘for instruction in the word of godliness.’
—James H. Charlesworth, George L. Collord Professor of New Testament Language and Literature, Princeton University
One of the most ambitious projects dealing with the Apocrypha ever undertaken. . . . it is also replete with scholarly notes and commentary to assist the reader—lay or professional—in every way possible.
—From the foreword by Rev. Paul L. Maier, The Russell H. Seibert Professor of Ancient History, Western Michigan University
This book provides a well-balanced blend of sound scholarship and religious beliefs on the Apocrypha, especially those of Luther and the Lutherans. The reader will find all the necessary background information on the Apocrypha in an attractive presentation, as well as religious guidance for instruction and preaching. A wealth of introductory essays and appendixes make this a very useful compendium.
—Emanuel Tov, J. L. Magnes Professor of Bible, Hebrew University
The introduction includes explanation of what the books of the Apocrypha are, what their value is, and a concise overview of history from Persian rule to Roman rule. Next come judicious commentaries on the several books of the Apocrypha, followed by 10 appendices that provide readers with additional related information concerning such things as the Dead Sea Scrolls, the writings of Josephus, rabbinic literature, and New Testament Apocrypha and Pseudepigrapha. What a treasure trove! This marvelous commentary belongs in the study of every student and scholar of the Bible.
—Craig A. Evans, Payzant Distinguished Professor of New Testament, Acadia Divinity College
An outstanding work of scholarship that provides a welcome service to Lutherans and, indeed, to Christians of other traditions interested in reading and studying these fascinating and often entertaining writings, which the great Luther himself deemed ‘useful and good to read.’ A thoughtfully edited and attractively produced volume, it includes many unique features and has the fullest annotations of any comparable study edition. In all, this is a monumental achievement and valuable resource for scholars, students, and lay people alike.
—Daniel C. Harlow, Professor of Religion, Calvin College
Philippians 4: 4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........
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Tov and Charlesworth on the same page? Plus Evens too? It's almost like earthquakes, tsunami, and a new iPhone all at the same time!
Clearly this is a sign. I'm sure at Logos, they're scurrying around to get this out!!
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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I was gifted the hard copy and want to pass it on to a fellow pastor when this Logos version comes out. The hard copy is fantastic; along the same lines as the hard copy of The Lutheran Study Bible.
In any event, I'm just hoping someone at Logos looks through the forums and nudges those working on this to get it out the door.
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I want to keep this on the Logos Team's radar as we're now around 11 months out from when this was offered as a pre-pub.
Come on, Logos! PLEASE get this out!!!
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I am very anxious for this too bur sometimes (probably most times), it is not Logos dragging their feet but other issues from not being given the text from the publisher, to complications (I halfway suspect that Logos wishes to give us not only the notes but the text too... but this will mean getting permission from Oxford University Press who did the ESV Apocrypha ). I wish it was coming out tomorrow, but know Logos is not going to be able to make that happen. One example is the Word Biblical Commentaries that are under contract, after much complaining we were told Thomas Nelson had yet to release the text for them to work with. It would be nice to think they could grab one at the local bookstore and scan it in, but that is not how it works.
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I have pre-ordered it on Sept. 3. 2013, and I hesitate keeping the order because of the Lutheran perspective. I fail to agree with much of Lutheranism. Can anyone convince me?
Also, I certainly would not use it with the ESV, but with the REB, and for some of parts of Sirach translated from Hebrew the NRSV.
I really would need to cancel some pre-pub order because I have too many of them.
I also wonder how conservative it might be?
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I also wonder how conservative it might be?
It will likely be fairly conservative since it is Concordia that has done it, they are a fairly conservative wing of Lutherans. Since it is a companion to the newer Lutheran Study Bible a quick look at it may tell you something. Since Sirach is a particular interest to you a look into proverbs may give you an idea or how it will be treated. Here is the exposition of Proverbs 8.
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Ch 8 Second poem about wisdom. The first poem was 1:20–33.8:1 Does not wisdom call? Opening rhetorical question assumes that everyone reading is aware of wisdom’s invitation. her. Wisdom is personified as a good woman, in stark contrast to the adulterous woman of ch 7. See “Supposed Remnants of Goddess Worship,” p 997.
8:2 at the crossroads she takes her stand. Here and in vv 3–4, wisdom stations herself to be heard in the midst of life. She calls out for travelers on their way in and out of the town.
8:4 men … children of man. Wisdom’s invitation is for all; her call is universal.
8:5 simple ones … fools. Here, as elsewhere in Pr, wisdom offers her message and benefits to those who are unschooled and vulnerable. Because sin taints every human mind and heart, all people meet her description.
8:6 noble … right. Wisdom’s message fills the mind and heart with all good things. Paul reflects this call to things noble and true in Php 4:8. To these, add truth (v 7) and righteousness (v 8). This is the first time these virtuous descriptors are clearly tied to wisdom’s message. Solomon is bringing his students to a new level of understanding wisdom.
8:7–8 wickedness. Solomon contrasts the virtues of wisdom’s message with its opposites. The parallelism of the contrasting realities clarifies and heightens the value of wisdom’s virtues.
8:9 Wisdom’s message is grasped rightly by those who have the knowledge of God (2:5).
8:10–11 instead of silver … rather than choice gold. Unlike Lady Folly, wisdom asks no money. The riches she offers surpass any object of human desire.
8:12–14 Wisdom’s attributes parallel the gifts of the Spirit of the Messiah in Is 11:1–3, clearly identifying Christ as our wisdom.
8:13 The fear of the LORD is hatred of evil. See notes, 1:7; 2:5. The more we lovingly revere God, trusting exclusively in His wisdom, the more we will hate and shun evil. In this sense, we take on God’s own character in detesting what is evil in His sight (6:16–19). See note, Ps 5:5.
8:15–16 kings … rulers … princes … nobles. Wisdom is a crucial asset for those who govern. Their just government evidences the wisdom of God, who sets governments in place and uses them for His purposes (Rm 13:4).
8:17 I love those who love me. Wisdom is set into the context of an intimate relationship. The verse’s second line adds to the thought of the first, promising that those who love and seek Wisdom will find her. Cf 1Co 12:8, 31. seek … find. Words used often in Proverbs for the quest for wisdom (2:4–5; 3:13; 4:22).
8:18–19 enduring wealth … fruit … yield. Agricultural language accents Wisdom as a renewing resource, promising future blessings, in contrast with the stagnant wealth of precious metals and gems.
8:20 the way … the paths. Wisdom walks with those who seek righteousness and justice. See p 844. Jesus described Himself as the way (Jn 14:6).
8:21 granting an inheritance to those who love me. Riches that come to those who follow God’s Wisdom, the Christ, are celebrated in several NT passages: Eph 2:7; 3:8–10; Php 4:19; Col 1:27; 2:2. granting an inheritance. Paul celebrates the rich inheritance of those who are in Christ (Eph 1:13–14; Col 1:10–12).
8:22–31 Poem about God’s use of wisdom in creation.
8:22 possessed Me at the beginning. See ESV note. Just as Solomon’s students are encouraged to acquire or possess Wisdom (1:5; 4:5, 7), so the Lord possesses Wisdom in eternity, even before His act of creation. This personification of wisdom points to the eternal nature of the pre-incarnate Christ, present at creation (Jn 1:1–3). Just: “The Word of Wisdom, who is Himself this God begotten of the Father of all things, and Word, and Wisdom, and Power, and the Glory of the Begetter, will bear evidence to me, when He speaks by Solomon” (ANF 1:227).
8:23 set up. Hbr word here is used elsewhere in the Bible only for God’s coronation of a king (Ps 2:6). Variant of the word can also mean “to weave,” as woven or knit in the womb (Ps 139:13), here then referring to Wisdom begotten of God. For Christ as appointed Messiah before creation, cf Mi 5:2; Jn 17:5.
8:24–26 brought forth … brought forth. Special form of Hbr verb chul. Term can describe various forms of movement, such as dancing or writhing in pain (as in giving birth). This anticipates the NT language describing Jesus as “begotten,” the eternal generation of the Son from the Father, before time and space were created. Before … before … before. Threefold repetition shows Wisdom to be eternal (cf “before all things” [Col 1:17], clearly not a part of creation).
8:26 dust. Plural in Hbr. The countless particles that make up the world.
Christ as Wisdom
According to Proverbs, Wisdom was present already in eternity, before the creation of the world and, consequently, before there even was such a thing as time. Along the same lines, Jesus said, “And now, Father, glorify Me in Your own presence with the glory that I had with You before the world existed” (Jn 17:5). In Pr 8, Wisdom is given birth by God, even though Wisdom was present from eternity. Likewise, Jesus is God’s only-begotten Son; that is, “His only Son” (Jn 3:16).
John’s Gospel begins with a description of Jesus as “the Word.” This description connects Jesus with the Wisdom of Proverbs, which calls out and makes its appeals. John declares, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God” (Jn 1:1–2). Wisdom was also present with God in the beginning (Pr 8:22).An Ancient Yet Modern Controversy
In the fourth century after Christ, a controversy broke out in the Christian churches. Focusing on this portion of Proverbs, the followers of the priest Arius argued that the Son of God was a created being and not eternal God. They argued that there was a time when the Son of God did not exist. Much of their argument rested on a faulty Greek translation of Pr 8:22: “The LORD created Me,” instead of “The LORD possessed Me.”
In our day, the Jehovah’s Witnesses have taken up this ancient heresy and contend that Jesus, the Son of God, is not true God. To support their false doctrine, they even mistranslate Scripture, such as Jn 1:1. Their New World Translation says, “The Word was a god,” instead of, “The Word was God.” Their false translation makes Jesus a second-level god alongside the heavenly Father. Clearly, this teaching does not fit with Holy Scripture, which teaches that there is only one God! (Cf Is 45:18–21; see p 1815.)
At the time of creation, Wisdom said, “I was beside [God], like a master workman” (Pr 8:30). Passages in the NT attribute this to Christ, e.g., Col 1:15–17; firstborn in this passage is used in a specific sense. It does not mean the first child born into a family. Rather, it refers to the inheritance rights of the one who held the honors of a firstborn son. (E.g., King David is called “firstborn” in Ps 89:27, even though he was the youngest son in his family [1Sm 16:11–13]. In view of this, when Paul calls Jesus “the firstborn of all creation,” he means that Jesus rules all creation, not that He was created, for “all things were created through Him and for Him.”)
Faithful Christians in the Early Church, led by the great Church Father Athanasius, carefully studied Pr 8 and other passages of Holy Scripture. They recognized that while the Son of God is begotten, He is also co-eternal with God the Father. Out of this research into God’s Word came the Nicene Creed, by which Christians still confess faith in Jesus Christ as “the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of His Father before all worlds, God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father, by whom all things were made.”
When we come face-to-face with the eternally begotten Son and other mysteries concerning the triune God, we are in realms beyond human comprehension. We can no more capture the eternal, omnipotent God within our minds than we can hold the ocean in a bucket. The wonder of it all is that the almighty Creator has come to us to save us. Jesus is God. He is also our Brother (Heb 2:11) who has suffered, died, and risen for us.Clear through Christ
It is often said that the OT is revealed in the NT, while the NT is concealed in the OT. In other words, what is not entirely clear in the OT becomes clear in the light of the coming of Jesus the Christ. That is what has happened with Pr 8.
The NT explicitly states that Jesus is the one “in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge” (Col 2:3). Or, as St Paul puts it in 1Co 1:24, Christ is “the wisdom of God.” As you read Proverbs, hear the voice of your Redeemer. As the “Word of God,” these are His words for you.8:27–29 Provides a picture of the first three days of creation (Gn 1:3–10), placing Wisdom there from the creation of the heavens to the creation of the earth’s foundations. Wisdom saw it all, from the heights to the depths of creation.
8:27 circle. Cf Gn 1:7–8.
8:30–31 delight … rejoicing … rejoicing … delighting. Chiastic arrangement links the joy between the Lord and Wisdom to the joy between the Lord and humanity at creation. Ath: “In whom does the Father rejoice, except as seeing Himself in His own Image, which is His Word?” (NPNF 2 4:393).
8:30 beside Him. The universe was created by God’s Word, a powerful companion to His presence. God said, “Let there be,” and there was (Gn 1:3, 6, 9, 11, 14, 20, 24, 26). God spoke (wisdom), and things that never were came to be (Heb 11:3). like a master workman. More than just an observer, Wisdom crafted creation. Earlier, wisdom is depicted as a woman. However, in this poem (vv 22–31), the feminine imagery is replaced by a first-person address (“Me,” “I”) and depiction of wisdom as a “workman.” This points forward to the description of the man Jesus as God’s Wisdom in the NT. I was daily His delight. Wisdom, Christ, the Son of God, was and is an object of delight and pleasure for the Father (Mt 3:17). rejoicing before Him always. As the Father finds pleasure in the Son, the Son delights in His Father. The reciprocity within the Trinity is evident here as the close mutual relationship between Father and Son is clear (Mt 11:27; Lk 10:22; Jn 5:19–21). This could also refer to the Son’s daily pleasure in creation, which His Father declared good (Gn 1:31).
8:31 delighting in the children of man. As the creation account ends with the creation of mankind (Gn 1:26–28), so this poetic presentation of creation recalls Wisdom’s pleasure in seeing human beings created in God’s image (Gn 1:31; Ps 8:3–5).
8:32–36 Concluding address returns to the appeal of vv 1–21.
8:34 waiting beside my doors. In 5:8, Solomon counseled students not to go near the door of the adulterous woman. Here, though, they are encouraged to wait eagerly at Wisdom’s doorstep. Wisdom alone grants entry into her home.
8:35 life. The adulterous woman brings death (5:5; 7:27); Wisdom brings life (cf promises in Jn 3:16; 8:51; 10:10). favor. See p 6. Wisdom’s invitation, like that of Christ, is one that offers God’s favor (2Co 6:1–2; Lk 4:19).
8:36 all who hate me love death. Stakes are high where following Wisdom is concerned.
Ch 8 The Lord is our Wisdom. His words and atoning works call from the heights and the crossroads of life for all humanity to hear. Like Wisdom in ch 8, Christ calls us from worldly foolishness, judgment, and death to obedience, God’s favor, and abundant life. Christ’s eternal nature, His relationship with the Father, and His work in creation all mark Him as the very wisdom of God. As such, He hates the sins of pride, arrogance, evil, and perverted speech (v 13). He calls us to do the same (Rm 12:9). He reaches out in love to all who love Him and diligently seek Him. In Christ, our Wisdom, we are rich beyond any human measure! • Lord Christ, Your wisdom brings life. You favor both the great and the humble, rulers and children, calling us from foolish sins to righteousness and truth. When we have lost our way, You are the door to all that is good and right, noble and true. Lord, make us wise unto Your salvation, that by Your gracious wisdom we may truly live. In Your name. Amen.
Edward A. Engelbrecht, The Lutheran Study Bible (St. Louis, MO: Concordia Publishing House, 2009), 1010–1013.
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-Dan
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Peace, Dan! *smile* Thanks so much for sharing that!
Philippians 4: 4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........
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Can CPH or someone help inquire why this is taking so long to come out?
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FYI... It is not uncommon for prepubs to take between one and two years to make it from "under contract" to being put into production.Scott Heitshusen said:Can CPH or someone help inquire why this is taking so long to come out?
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wow. that's just...wow...
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Scott Heitshusen said:
wow. that's just...wow...
Logos does do any work on a resource unless it knows it can make a profit. Thus, Logos did not start working on it until it went into "development." Based on Milford's post. It went into production sometime around July/Aug/Sept. of this year. Because of this, I will not expect to see this product no sooner than the third quarter of 2014.
Then again, I have see some items go from development to production in under two months, and that was happened a couple of times in the five years I have been using Logos.
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More than this you must remember Logos will not actually be developing it till the eText is received. The WBC missing and under contract for years have yet the hold up is Nelson/Zondervan has not released the text for them to work with.
-dan
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I know Logos can't say if there has been any movement on this, but I wanted it out there that we hope there is soon.
I really don't want to settle for the Kindle version of this, but it's difficult to wait 1½+ for an important resource to use.
I understand these take time, but it's quite frustrating.
Blessed Maundy Thursday to all.
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Insult to injury.... there is absolutely no excuse when there is a kindle version out there... [:(]
-Dan
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Scott Heitshusen said:
but it's difficult to wait 1½+ for an important resource to use.
I didn't ... I pre-ordered the hard copy on Amazon so I've had it since its release date.[:D] Remember that Logos has an additional problem here because of their standard use of the "shorter canon" Bible. Not only do they have to tag the Lutheran Study notes, they also have to tag the ESV apocrypha which is considerably more work. I firmly believe they should offer the apocrypha in ALL translations that include it.
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Our departed dear brother started this thread... and I will do my best to keep this going till it becomes released. Any news at all on a release date?
-Dan
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Whilst I've had the hard copy since CPH released it, I would very much like to have a Logos version of this and PrePub'ed it not long after purchasing Logos last year...
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It is so hard to say what is going on here.... I would doubt it is an entry issue because while not a small volume it should not be that hard to get done. My guess and THIS IS PURE SPECULATION, Logos may want to have the text with it, and since CPH owns the rights to the notes, but Oxford owns the rights to the text, there may well be a hold up there. For me I want the notes, I am happy to use it with NRSV or RSV or even the CEB if I had that in Logos. I really wish some from Logos would let us know what is going on, one Logos person in another thread hinted he was working on it but no real word on what is the hold up.
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Agreed Dan - all the "extras" in this are very nice. Would be nice also if the included Reading Plan came across as a Logos one [:D]
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Can someone from Logos please let us know what is taking so long in making this resource??? I am not asking for a date just to know what the seeming hold up is?
-Dan
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I'd love to know as well.
It's been nearly TWO YEARS. It shouldn't be a "rights" issue as this has been available on Kindle for awhile.
It is very frustrating.
As Dan says, we don't need to know a date, but some kind of status update would be very appreciated.
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Ok, so now it has been OVER TWO YEARS since I ordered my Lutheran Apocrypha (and I know some others did before me), and still not a peep from Logos.
If they could just say,"you know what; we aren't going to be able to produce this after all. We though it would workout but there have been issues we just couldn't work out," I'd appreciate that. I could get it on Kindle and move on.
SOMETHING, PLEASE, LOGOS!
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I am going to post here again next week. As I understand it most Faithlife employees are on leave for the holidays. That being the case I hate to think it gets missed because no one is around to see it.... I really want to know what's going on too..
-Dan
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We want to know something please... I will bump this daily till it gets noticed by a Faithlife person.
-Dan
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I should have an update on this product soon. I apologize for the wait, I know it's been a long time coming, and not much in the way of communication. [:(]
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Thanks so much...
-Dan
Thank you for the extreme patience. I wish I could share more. Hopefully soon.
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I too have been waiting for the Logos version of this book. Next month it will be two years since I placed my pre-order. I finally got tired of waiting and bought the physical book from Concordia. However I still want the Logos edition. I just wish someone at Faithlife would tell us what the holdup is.
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Thank you, Dan. Your response is greatly appreciated.
I must ask: what time period is "soon" defined as by Logos? that is not a snarky comment nor trying to get a specific that I know you are not able to. Rather, I would just like to know if soon is closer to now or, say, 3 months from now? 4 months? 6 months?
Certainly in my mind, soon would not be great than 3 months, but I know the term is loose. If Logos' definition is different, could we try to come up with more agreeable terms?
Perhaps:
- "soon" = between tomorrow and three months
- "soon-ish" = between 3-6 months
- "a bit" = 6-9 months
- "a while" = 9-12 months
- "forget-about-it" > 12 months
Would one of those be something you could help narrow down while still remaining somewhat non-specific/non-committal?
Again, your response is greatly appreciated, Dan. I thank you.
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From Gabe's response it doesn't sound like there is much he can say. This MAY mean there is some difficulties in getting the contract nailed down... this MIGHT suggest it is going to take an extra effort to get the ESV Apocrypha from Oxford. I am not not employed by Faithlife nor have any particular inside information (I have emailed Bob in the past and received a response but I am hardly in the loop). The may and might above is just an educated guess at what could be going on. Gabe and faithlife in general often cannot say much without possibly endangering negotiations.
-Dan
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I meant "Gabe" in my previous post!
Sorry about that, Dan (&Gabe).
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Fortress Commentary on the Bible (2 vols.) Might be a good alternative to this.. I know not quite the same but likely a bit more in depth and at this point i wouldn't say the Concordia volume will be released before it.
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This appears to need a bit of a push as it is not pushing towards production very quickly.
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I know... New work on the entire Bible with Apocrypha, I thought it would be be a no brainer for Catholics and anyone wanting to learn more about the Apocrypha. I was so impressed with the treatment on ruth... I will add it again here so people can get an idea of how the treatment goes.
4571.Ruth Fortress Commentary.pdf
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Okay guys at this point all posting/bumping on this thread does is bring it back up in my to read list giving me hope that Gabe has reach a point that he has something to communicate ... has anyone checked for any recent research on the health consequences of quickly repeating raising of false expectations?[:^)]
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I can confirm as of today that this work is now fully under production. Keep an eye both here and on the product page for an actual shipping date.
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