FIRST POST! YAY!!!!!!!
Excited over the new features I was told about
Which are?
Time line features that show all time lines for both Biblical and non-Biblical resources.
Fuzzy / Clause searches that are intelligent to know when I search "God speak*" it pulls also "He speaks" if God is the intended pronoun.
Faster UI.
A few more:
Haven't been able to get L5 yet (out of town for 3 days - just learned of it 30 minutes ago .
The money question for me: How much more responsive is the UI? For example, is there still the very noticeable delay when typing inside a note?
Thanks for the info!
Donnie
Since we are still waiting on the website I will ask it here. Are Mac/PC the same (unlike L4 where there are a few feature differences)?
Fr - Could you post a pic of the Sermon Guide?
I haven't had much time to play with it yet. My library is reindexing and Im in the middle of typing a paper...however I did notice that it is now a full screen application in on OSX. A feature many of us Mac users have been looking forward too.
Are Mac/PC the same (unlike L4 where there are a few feature differences)?
All new features in Logos 5 are available and the same on Mac & PC.
Not every parity issue from Logos 4 has been addressed yet, but we are still working on them (with the exception of Handouts, which has been deprecated).
There are a few abiding catch up items here. But every new feature is on both platforms.
Wow! Can you says no need for the Lexham Bible Guides?
I CAN say that Logos has done a massive job assembling a new set of really useful databases for L5.
I assume L5 will not work with XP?
Correct… but future versions (updates) of L4 should.
Wow! Can you says no need for the Lexham Bible Guides? I CAN say that Logos has done a massive job assembling a new set of really useful databases for L5.
I will second what Thomas said. I can also they have done a great job making the use of these databases user-friendly and fairly quick. You will probably be pleased with the faster performance of L5
I assume L5 will not work with XP? Correct… but future versions (updates) of L4 should.
[y] That is the commitment as I understand it.
As asked, here are some additional pictures of the Sermon Prep Guide. I won't repeat the pics already posted above in this thread, but here are some images of the Thematic Outlines, which has most impressed me. It is just one section within the Sermon Prep Guide.
First, you select a topic or a Bible passage. Then, a list of thematic outlines are presented. Here is the list of Thematic Outlines for the topic of Angels:
There are lots of topics prepared, but notice how many subtopics are within this one topic of Angels. Very impressive. Other topics are the same - there are lots of subtopics within each topic.
Here is what a subtopic looks like. I have marked in yellow the name of the subtopic I chose from the list above. Notice that then within the subtopics there are then additional themes and sub-themes, with pertinent biblical verses:
So, this is a pretty good example. Most other examples I have looked at have been similar in length and quality. An incredible resource for preparing homilies.
Here's a screenshot of a section of Lexham Bible Guide: Ephesians, for reference:
Here are the core features of Lexham Bible Guides:
Here is what's included for each literary unit in the Lexham Bible Guides:
here are some images of the Thematic Outlines, which has most impressed me
So what does it look like for the topic 'Purgatory'? Is there one?
(Just trying to find out how Evangelical this is, and that seemed like a good test case.[:D])
here are some images of the Thematic Outlines, which has most impressed me So what does it look like for the topic 'Purgatory'? Is there one? (Just trying to find out how Evangelical this is, and that seemed like a good test case.)
(Just trying to find out how Evangelical this is, and that seemed like a good test case.)
As of now, Purgatory draws a blank in the sermon Guide. The Topic guide is below:
Wow! Can you says no need for the Lexham Bible Guides? Here's a screenshot of a section of Lexham Bible Guide: Ephesians, for reference: Here are the core features of Lexham Bible Guides: Annotates the differing opinions of top scholars and links you directly to their works’ most relevant passages for further reading. Combines the expert curation of a Bible guidebook with the advanced technology of Logos. It satisfies your need for a quick orientation to a passage when time is short, and it facilitates in-depth study when time allows. Organizes all the research on each literary unit of Scripture. Illuminates difficult and obscure passages, making passages more accessible for teaching or further study. Provides comprehensive coverage that’s easy to use and elegantly organized. It addresses both biblical and theological issues—not just one or the other. Here is what's included for each literary unit in the Lexham Bible Guides: Customizable media slides for use in presentations An introductory overview An outline of the unit’s structure and biblical significance A summary and explanation of key words, important facts, and controversial issues A listing and description of related literature for further study An application overview Concluding thoughts
thanks for the expanded and visual clarification. since I don't own one (yet), it's nice to know its unique features.
Hi fgh
This is what I get
Graham
There is no topic for Purgatory.
That having been said, in general I have found the summaries to be quite universal, with very few exceptions presenting a theology that is compatible with both Catholicism and Protestantism. For example, the topic on Holiness is very good. Here is the first part of the subtopic of Saints, which is a subcategory of Holiness (to celebrate the Feast of All the Saints today). This is only the first part of this topic:
The only topic I have seen so far that I would like to be more universal in its approach is the topic of Salvation, which presents a strong view in favor of salvation by faith-alone, with works (theologically it would be more precise to say something like "lived charity") as simply a by-product. I wonder if maybe this topic could be rethought in light of the joint declarations which have been made by the Lutheran and Catholic Church on salvation in recent years?? Topics like the one above show that it isn't too terribly difficult to present schemes like this in ways that are theologically universal.
As regards topics particular to Catholicism / Orthodoxy, such as Purgatory, there is also some hope I believe. In Logos 5, the Catholic versions are now "sort of" called Verbum. Here is the logo as it appears on the home screen. On the top bar, however, Logos 5 still appears:
The fact that Logos is now aware that I am using a Catholic library makes me think that there may also be the possibility of providing a pretty good solution for this type of issue.
Here you go. There is a bit more below the window, but that is all the screen I have [8-|] Well, they all had "No Results" for Purgatory (Illustrations, Media, People, Places, Things, Events)
I haven't had an opportunity to test Logos 5 with Catholic settings - we have to wait and hope. The Logos Controlled Vocabulary has not been expanded to include deuterocanonical people, places, etc.
Did you get enough response to your question? [:D]
Any other information you would like?
Did you get enough response to your question?
Yes. [:D]
Don't you read each others' posts? 4 screenshots of the very same Topic Guide.[:)] And you weren't posting at the same time either. (Actually, I was asking about the Sermon Prep Guide, but as there doesn't seem to be anything there, I guess you gave the best answer possible.)
I notice the list of Bible references is pretty short compared to the one MJ put together at http://topics.logos.com/Purgatory. They need to hire a Catholic to Sean's team, if they haven't already. And they need to start integrating the work we've done on topics.logos.com. I happened to listen to Sean's old Bible Tech talks some days ago and he did say they were working on that, or at least that it was in the plans, so I'm a bit surprised it's not there.
I'll take a closer look at the screenshots later. Right now the new posts keep flooding my inbox much faster than I can dispose of them (at least if I am to read them first).
The Logos Controlled Vocabulary has not been expanded to include deuterocanonical people, places, etc.
Also disappointing. I hope it's not too far off.
Someone asked about indexing, I have fast late model laptop, with an SSD disk and 8 GB memory. On my system, with Logos 4, 13,358 resources, a full reindex took 3.5 hours. In Logos 5 it takes right around 2 hours 50 minutes, or almost 20% faster.
Don't you read each others' posts? 4 screenshots of the very same Topic Guide.
Those were not there when I started assembling my post. I was trying to find Purgatory in some other places, but was not successful. When I saw them, I thought about modifying mine, but decided to leave it alone.
Purgatory? I think Logos is giving a demonstration with the web site update. [:P]
At least there is a sheep to keep you company!
