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Since Logos claims to be a publisher that publishes Christian literature only - giving one Christian denomination precedence over others is not a good thing. My impression is also that there are more Calvinist works to be found here than say Lutheran, Roman Catholic or Orthodox. It might have to do with Logos being an american company and that Calvin more than any other theologian enjoys the greatest following "over there". It might also have to do with the fact that it is Calvin-500 and that third-party publishers who contacts Logos are in fact Calvinists (and Lutheran, Roman Catholic, Orthodox, etc. are just being difficult). Who knows for sure..
Since Logos claims to be a publisher that publishes Christian literature only - giving one Christian denomination precedence over others is not a good thing. My impression is also that there are more Calvinist works to be found here than say Lutheran, Roman Catholic or Orthodox. It might have to do with Logos being an american company and that Calvin more than any other theologian enjoys the greatest following "over there". It might also have to do with the fact that it is Calvin-500 and that third-party publishers who contacts Logos are in fact Calvinists (and Lutheran, Roman Catholic, Orthodox, etc. are just being difficult). Who knows for sure..
There are probably a whole lot of other factors we are not privy to that effect what gets published and what doesn't. Some would definitely involve copyright issues. The actual money-spending customer base will be of primary consideration. (I ate at a Chinese buffet yesterday that had pizza, spaghetti, tacos & enchiladas. Considering demographics in Oklahoma, that makes sense.) I think the Lutheran perspective is very well represented already. The Catholic writings just hit the Pre-pub page with a fury. I am aware of MANY other denominational views either in Pre-pub or already available. I do have to admire the reformed theology clan for their gusto in pushing availability of their works. It is not just Logos that carries them. Wordsearch & Biblesoft have been outlets for the same titles. One area I wish Logos would go is African Christianity. Considering BobP also runs the division in South Africa I would hope to see the African Commentaries in Logos some day.
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Our primary aim is publishing material that helps people study the Bible. This tends to be "Christian" content, but includes some Jewish material as well as purely secular resources -- like the Merriam-Webster Dictionary. (Because it's useful to people studying the Bible.)
Within our organization there are many Christian viewpoints (and probably some non-believers). I'm sure there's a (subtle) bias along the lines of "that author sounds familiar -- let's do their books!" But, with a book count already over 10,000, most of us are way beyond recognizing and being able to theologically classify every book.
Your comments to suggest@logos.com are a big influence on what we publish; the other big influence is our ability to get the publishers to go along.
The only "theological bias" related to publishers we work with is that we've found it harder to work wtih publishers in more hierarchial denominations. If the publisher is owned by a denomination, and/or if the denomination also owns its own bookstores, schools, etc. then it can be slower to work with independents like us, and more reliant on its own channels, and on getting lots of people to sign off before doing something.
It's not impossible to work with these publishers -- and we've had some great success - but it's usually just a bit more time consuming, and that's probably reflected in our catalog of titles.\
Our goal is to have every book on earth that's useful to a student of the Bible. (The ones we can't afford to type we'll scan and put at http://books.logos.com.)
Thanks for keeping the suggestions coming!
-- Bob
Thanks for your input Bob. Your goal and mine "Our goal is to have every book on earth that's useful to a student of the Bible." are the same. Who cares which denominatin publishes it. When studying for my degree, they never asked which denomination published the book, or what the authors view point was. As long as it was relevant to the work being researched the philosophy was, knock your self out.
The more you read and the wider you read the better off you are.
I like George's concept. "I don't need anyone to tell me what I believe". Hope I quoted you right George.
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I like George's concept. "I don't need anyone to tell me what I believe". Hope I quoted you right George.
Every thing written or spoken relating to religion available in Libronix.
It's either exactly what I said or close enough that I wouldn't quibble with it.
george
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Is there any way to setup the forum so I can ignore this thread? It keeps showing up in the top few, and I keep forgetting that it has nothing to do with Logos or its Focus anymore. It's gotten so far off topic I keep wonder whether it will actually fall of the edge of the internet -- there is an edge somewhere, right?
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Is there any way to setup the forum so I can ignore this thread? It keeps showing up in the top few, and I keep forgetting that it has nothing to do with Logos or its Focus anymore. It's gotten so far off topic I keep wonder whether it will actually fall of the edge of the internet -- there is an edge somewhere, right?
I'm afraid not. Remember that the earth is round so that you don't fall off the edge.
Sincerely,
Columbus
george
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Is there any way to setup the forum so I can ignore this thread?I'm afraid not. Remember that the earth is round so that you don't fall off the edge.
I guess I should have seen that coming; after all the discussion has been quite circular (or would that be spherical). [;)]
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the edge? well, i finished reading through this thread, so now I can say "I finished the Internnet". right? 
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Michael,
I, too, am very happy to have the Calvinistic writers available in Logos. I am especially excited to see many Puritan Fathers collections in Pre-Pub. I would also like to point out these other Logos titles:
Foundations of Pentecostal Theology
Wesleyan–Arminian Collection (Methodist)
Church of God Digital Library
Collegeville Catholic Reference Library: Full Edition, Version 3
Messianic Jewish Publishers Collection
The Works of H. A. Ironside (Independent Fundamentalist Baptist)
Writings From the Ancient World (Myths)
and the whole series of these publisher's lines
Fortress Press (Lutheran) too many titles to list!
College Press (Christian Church / Church of Christ)
Broadman & Holman (Southern Baptist) too many to list.
Logos is serving many very well. And I think it is only going to get better. [<:o)] !
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I would like to see how may calvinist users there are versus non-calvinist users.
Pastor Michael Huffman, Th.A Th.B Th.M
You forgot those of us in the third category: Calminians. Calvinism takes one aspect of biblical truth: God's sovereigny and pushes it to what I believe is an unbiblical extreme. Arminianism takes one aspect of biblical truth: human free willl and responsibliity and also pushes it to what I believe is an unbiblical extreme. There are elements of truth in both, but neither totally reflect the entire picture of Biblical truth. Therefore I describe myself as a Calminian.
calvinhabig,
I've heard people say they are Calminian but it just doesn't hold water. I believe that saying that Calvinist push the Sovereignty of God to an extreme is usually a straw-man representation of their true position.
I'm interested in your understanding of the "Calvinist position" in a nutshell. Can you do that?
In my limited experience what usually comes out is an inconsistent Arminian position.
(Possibly you'd like to do it through PMs so as to not clog up this thread?)
Robert Pavich
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You mean to tell me there is now a name for us? [:D] Glad to know there is a box I can be sorted into now.!
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My apologies all around for any part I played in furthering this little OT dustup. I sincerely did not mean to help move us further OffTopic. I just (good naturedly) couldn't help but remind our brother that there are all sorts of theological nuances on these forums and using Libronix. As I was typing & pressing "Post" I kept thinking..."Cal, this whole thing is off topic. Responding is probably not a good idea." Whether it was the voice of wisdom or the voice of othe Holy Spirit, I don'tknow, but please accept my apologies for moving us further away from the purpose of fhese posts. I'm done with this thread.
Blessings on all who claim the name of the Lord.
That would be interesting but I don't know what purpose it would serve. I'm sure Logos has some idea of the demographics but I doubt that is what is driving the publication decisions or priorities. I did not mean to draw a line in the sand with my post.
I truly am grateful for the writings of Calvin, Spurgeon, and MacArthur.
I am also grateful for the historical works of Philip Schaff,
the evangelistic training materials by Ray Comfort & Larry Moyer,
the clear logic of Aquinas,
the dialogue between Luther and Erasmus,
the practical holy lifestyles of the Methodists & Nazarenes,
the rich insights of the Messianic Jews....
Logos is serving many Christians very well.
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What is your purpose in asking this question? This topic has promited heated discussions in the past on the newsgroups, and starting the debate again can serve no good purpose. I note that you made a rather strong statement 46 minutes after posting this. If you were only seek to promote a flame war, you have misused this forum. On another thread, I defended off-topic discussions, but trolling for flame wars is pushing the limit a bit far.
Personally, I enjoy, and profit from, writers of all theological persuasions.
Jack
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I completely agree with your post. There is NO purpose for this type of question at all.
Jack,
I appreciate your comments. This was not asked to flame a war. I know here I stand and do not need to "flame a war". It seems to me that Logos is geared more with reformed works than with works, say of those of Charles Finney. Who, I may add, has been on pre-pub now for a long time and no one seems to be interested. I wish they would go ahead and take it off....but anyway. Not making an accusation, but I have found that it is usually the semi-pelagian who is arguing about making a war and not wanting to discuss this issue. When, no matter, what side you take, is in the Scripture and must be discussed. Unfortunately, usually what people see is a mean spirited discussion based on emotion and not a spiritual discussion based on the revelation of Scripture. This is a discussion forum, that I understand to be with no limitations as the content. It started as an honest question to see what was the consesus of users, more reformed or more non-reformed. You are welcome to participate or not.
Pastor Michael Huffman, Th.A Th.B Th.M