Thinking about an iPad Mini. Some basic questions.

I'm considering an iPad Mini, and this will be my 1st "i" anything. Smile

I have a few questions concerning storage space for Logos. There is a 16GB, 32GB, and 64GB model. If i wanted to download every book in the Platinum version of Logos for offline viewing, which model would you say is best?

Unfortunately, Logos does not state the space requirements of the App or the books for IOS or Android.

Thanks for any assistance you can give.

Find more posts tagged with

Mobile App

Comments

Mark Smith

Erwin, 32 GB should suit you fine. I wonder why you'd want to download them all? If you have an active Internet connection while using the iPad you won't see much delay in opening a resource you don't have downloaded. Searches are done on the Logos servers, not on the iPad so you don't need them on your device for that purpose.

I have downloaded a few dozen books I would want to have if I wandered from a wifi connection (mine is wifi only) but that doesn't happen often. Usually I can plan on that ahead of time and download what I think I'd read.

A disadvantage of downloading is if you ever have a problem with the Logos app and need to delete it and reinstall it you'd have to re-download all those resources again.

Anyway, I have 6300 resources in my Logos resources folder and they take up about 20 GB on my hard drive. I assume it would only take up the same amount of room on the iPad.

Edit: If you want to load a lot of music, photos, and video those are resource hogs, so get more memory in that case.

Erwin Stull, Sr.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/419449#Comment_419449

Thanks Mark; That's the one I am hoping would be enough (the 32GB). Those things are just so expensive, but I want one. [:)]

Stepping back for a moment and thinking a little more intelligently, I do not need every book for offline reading, as most of the time while I am in the field, I only catch up on my reading plan anyway. Thanks for kickstarting my brain on this one. [:D]

I most likely will get the model with the included cellular circuitry in case I do need internet capability while not in a hotspot area. During my travels, I may cross 20 different WiFi areas and some are not accessible.

Mark Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/419465#Comment_419465

but I want one.

They are a luxury but I have enjoyed my iPad3 a great deal. They are very nice for reading. The Logos app is OK, but needs some additional enhancement. Searching is not so good, but I can read, annotate, and do an occasional word or passage study with ease. Note taking is no pleasure, but that's OK.

Dan Francis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/419465#Comment_419465

I honestly don;t think you will regret your purchase one bit i love my 3rd gen iPad and while I have not seen a mini but the original screen still looked pretty nice and new mini has the same screen resolution.

-dan

Erwin Stull, Sr.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/419471#Comment_419471

They are a luxury but I have enjoyed my iPad3 a great deal. They are very nice for reading.

I currently have an Android 7" tablet. It's nice, but now I would like a little more screen area and better resolution, but not a 10" tablet (too big to carry around on foot, buses, etc.). My eyes are not as they were 20 so years ago (smile).

Eric Weiss

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/419488#Comment_419488

The mini does NOT have the same screen resolution as the iPad 3 or iPad 4 - i.e., the iPad Retina. Rather, the iPad mini has a 163 pixels per inch resolution, which is between the iPad 2 132 ppi and the iPad Retina 264 ppi:

Also, the iPad mini has the slower A5 dual-core chip that the iPad 2 has, and not the iPad Retina's new dual-core A6x chip with quad-core graphics, which is apparently amazing. For $170 more across the board, the iPad Retina seems to me to be better in every way than the mini - and according to Engadget or Gizmodo, the iPad mini is priced at almost double its parts' costs - i.e., $141 higher than the $181 in parts - giving Apple a much bigger profit margin versus its competitors and versus what it nets off the iPad Retina. In other words, it's basically last (or older) generation's technology priced as new technology.

Erwin Stull, Sr.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/419475#Comment_419475

I honestly don;t think you will regret your purchase one bit i love my 3rd gen iPad and while I have not seen a mini but the original screen still looked pretty nice and new mini has the same screen resolution.

-dan

Thanks Dan; It's time for me to jump onboard the IOS bandwagon. [:)] My pastor and a few others have an iPad (various models), and they just enjoy the opportunity to tease me everytime. The 9.7" is a little too big to carry around for my use, and my 7" Android is becoming a little too small. The 7.9" iPad Mini with the increased clarity may be just right. My next move is to go into the store to actually look at it in person.

Now, if I can convince my pastor and others in the congregation to get Logos, I'll have some company over here. [:)]

Erwin Stull, Sr.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/419494#Comment_419494

The mini does NOT have the same screen resolution as the iPad 3 or iPad 4 - i.e., the iPad Retina. Rather, the iPad mini has a 163 pixels per inch resolution, which is between the iPad 2 132 ppi and the iPad Retina 264 ppi:

Also, the iPad mini has the slower A5 dual-core chip that the iPad 2 has, and not the iPad Retina's new dual-core A6x chip with quad-core graphics, which is apparently amazing. For $170 more across the board, the iPad Retina seems to me to be better in every way than the mini - and according to Engadget or Gizmodo, the iPad mini is priced at almost double its parts' costs - i.e., $141 higher than the $181 in parts - giving Apple a much bigger profit margin versus its competitors and versus what it nets off the iPad Retina. In other words, it's basically last (or older) generation's technology priced as new technology.

Hi Eric;

Seriously? Your research is giving me a little more to think about. Thanks. So, in other words, people who get the mini will not get as much value for that inflated cost, as they would by getting the latest 9.7" model. When I go to the store, I'm going to seriously weigh the difference between the two models.The primary concern for me (after storage capacity) will be reading clarity and size/weight in that order.

Eric Weiss

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/419506#Comment_419506

My info comes straight from Apple.com's page for the iPad

http://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/

and the articles at Gizmodo:

http://gizmodo.com/5956252/the-ipad-mini-costs-141-more-than-its-components-add-up-to

Read this comparison of the mini's display with others: http://gizmodo.com/5957775/ipad-mini-display-shoot-out-how-does-it-stack-up

Nevertheless, the mini might be fine for you. It's certainly lighter and more convenient than the iPad, unless you need the larger screen area.

Dan Francis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/419506#Comment_419506

Well look at both iPADs, but i have already heard of people who have traded there old 3rd gen in for one.for me screen size is more important… but the mini is so much lighter and more pocket friendly. You will find either powerful enough to do what you want most likely, if mini ever gets retina it will need a major processor boost but for now it's fine. The old second generation iPad will shortly be gone now that the mini is here, so best thing is to do what you said look them over and pick the one best for you..

-Dan

Dan Francis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/419522#Comment_419522

http://gizmodo.com/5956252/the-ipad-mini-costs-141-more-than-its-components-add-up-to

Amazon and Google both sell their 7 inch tablet for basically a break even model… And that article does't mention labour costs and only known component costs. There is nothing about design costs or even the fact Apple pays the workers at foxconn assembling it's products more than other workers there (you must remember the factory manufactures for dozens of companies). Apples stuff is always priced more than most things but it is better designed and more durable than most other products. That being said sometimes if you price out things with identical specs in the laptop world you will find apple is cheaper, (when I bought my MBP i literally priced it out at dell, as close as possible and dell with it's plastic case and at that time non back lit keyboard was going to cost $375 more than the MBP. Now tablets are a different kettle of fish. While i may somehow hack a pc laptop into running MacOS, i could not so the same tablet wise. And the number and quality of APPs available in the the iOS platform pale in comparison to android, not to mention the fact that over 30% of apps in google are a potential security risk. Not all of that 30 some percent are malicious but they require you to open up back doors that leave your Data vulnerable (and sadly enough a fair amount are malicious, although I know Google pulls ones like that but they pop up in a new incarnation soon enough). That being said I do not want Android to ever disappear, competition is healthy and useful for spurring on better products. That being said every android user should find a good anti-virus/malware software for them, I am not aware of which one is best, and i know many of them are next to useless. Amazon got blasted for making it's App store the only one official supported by it's kindles, but there is good reason to take a little bit of control and test to make sure Apps are safe to use. I do have lots of friends with Android phones, whatever will work best for you it what you should go for, for me personally, i tried a couple different phones before getting an iPhone and had nothing but headaches, since getting my iPhone 3gs years back i have had virtually no complaints, except it's horrible battery life, something i am happy to say in iP5 is not even remotely an issue.

-dan

Jeff Hendershot

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/419529#Comment_419529

I purchased an iPad 3rd gen back in March (4th gen is not enough for me to upgrade) and am very happy with it. I have 64GB OF SPACE. Logos takes 8gb of space. Perhaps you can get a deal on a refurb 3rd gen,,,

Kevin A. Purcell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/420458#Comment_420458

Plenty of answers to your size question, but others recommended getting the larger iPads. Don't do it.

I'm an avid iPad fan boy from day one and think its the greatest device I've owned. But, the mini is so much better for personal use, espeically if you've never used one with the retina display.

If you want a Wi-Fi only model get one as soon as you can. The size makes reading and using Logos and other apps wonderful. You'll either need good eyes or bump up the text size in settings.

However, if you like to access things anywhere anytime, then wait for the LTE versions which will show up in a few weeks. I'll exchange mine at Best Buy when that happens because I love using the LTE in my iPad 3rd gen.

Erwin Stull, Sr.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/419522#Comment_419522

My info comes straight from Apple.com's page for the iPad

Thanks Eric; It was beneficial for me to take a closer look at those specs. I most likely will end up with the standard full size model. I remember when I bought my 7" Android table. It was the greatest thing, however, as I calmed down and the newness wore off, I said to myself "Man... this is a little hard to read". Now, I'm thinking that the same thing may happen with a 7.9" display (not considering performance). [:)]

Erwin Stull, Sr.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/419525#Comment_419525

Well look at both iPADs, but i have already heard of people who have traded there old 3rd gen in for one.for me screen size is more important… but the mini is so much lighter and more pocket friendly. You will find either powerful enough to do what you want most likely, if mini ever gets retina it will need a major processor boost but for now it's fine. The old second generation iPad will shortly be gone now that the mini is here, so best thing is to do what you said look them over and pick the one best for you..

-Dan

Thanks Dan; I'm thinking more ahead right now, and thinking that the 7.9" display will become hard to read for me after the newness wears off. I currently carry a laptop bag around with me most of the time anyway, so a 9.7" tablet shouldn't be much of a problem. Actually, I don't want to carry anything around (come to think of it) and if I could have all of this integrated within my brain, that would be great. But then I wouldn't be human. [:D]

Erwin Stull, Sr.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/420458#Comment_420458

I purchased an iPad 3rd gen back in March (4th gen is not enough for me to upgrade) and am very happy with it. I have 64GB OF SPACE. Logos takes 8gb of space. Perhaps you can get a deal on a refurb 3rd gen,,,

Hi Jeff;

I probably will get the 64GB model when I decide. I have to make the purchase count as I don't know when I'll get another opportunity to get on. I've been eying iPads since they 1st came out. I really can't afford any of them, but it is justified as a development expense and not a toy. [:)]

Erwin Stull, Sr.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/420757#Comment_420757

Plenty of answers to your size question, but others recommended getting the larger iPads. Don't do it.

I'm an avid iPad fan boy from day one and think its the greatest device I've owned. But, the mini is so much better for personal use, espeically if you've never used one with the retina display.

If you want a Wi-Fi only model get one as soon as you can. The size makes reading and using Logos and other apps wonderful. You'll either need good eyes or bump up the text size in settings.

However, if you like to access things anywhere anytime, then wait for the LTE versions which will show up in a few weeks. I'll exchange mine at Best Buy when that happens because I love using the LTE in my iPad 3rd gen.

Hi Kevin;

I most likely will be getting a standard size iPad, 64GB, latest model. I'm thinking of the viewing area, clarity, and my aging eyes. As far as the Wi-Fi and Wi-Fi/LTE models, I'll probably opt for the Wi-F- only model and use my existing cellular service for a hotspot when needed. This seem to be the most economical way to go, as I would not be required to have a separate cell plan for the short periods of time that I am away from home and need internet. :-)

Thanks.

Erwin Stull, Sr.

Thank you all for your help in my iPad purchase. The next step is for me to go to the Apple store and check them out. One thing I've noticed with Apple throughout the years, is that they don't generally have any heavy discounts or sales. [:(]

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/420877#Comment_420877

they don't generally have any heavy discounts or sales.

For several years now, Apple HAS had a black friday sale. It won't be much of a discount.

Mike Melloy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/420877#Comment_420877

Thank you all for your help in my iPad purchase. The next step is for me to go to the Apple store and check them out. One thing I've noticed with Apple throughout the years, is that they don't generally have any heavy discounts or sales.

I have used the Apple refurb store on-line for many different product purchases and have been very happy. My understanding for refurbished iPads is that they have new glass and a new battery (at least that used to be the case, you can ask at the Apple Store). You should also get the same warranty on the refurb device as you would for a new one. The discounts aren't huge, but they are discounts. You can find the store here http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/ipad.

Mike