While I wait for the L5 Cross Grade options...

When L5 first launched I began the important task of preparing my wife for the possibility of having to spend as much as $400 to upgrade to L5. I know that most L4 users have much more invested in resources than I do... but considering the L5 upgrade 9 months after purchasing the L4 Leader package and buying William Barclay's set of NT commentaries (and a few other purchases since then ) is a pretty big deal for me. Having secured a positive nod from my dear wife of 41 years, I'm now hoping that the cross grade cost will leave some room for me to purchase a set of commentaries....hence this post. I'd like to get feedback on the list of commentaries below that I noted while browsing the Logos product pages. I should note that I am a lay person and my use of Logos is predominately for teaching an adult Sunday School class and for self-study. (Feel free to recommend other sets if you so desire)

Resource ________ # of Volumes Cost

The Expositor's Bible Commentary ............................................................ 12 $ 130

The Preacher's Commentary ...................................................................... 35 $130

The Pulpit Commentaries............................................................................ 77 $ 170

Tyndale Commentaries .............................................................................. 49 $ 225

Lange's Commentary on the Holy Scriptures................................................. 63 $300

Thanks in advance for your input.

Now back to monitoring the L5 posts! Big Smile

Ralph

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Doc B

I should note that I am a lay person and my use of Logos is predominately for teaching an adult Sunday School class and for self-study.

As a fellow-lay person who teaches adult SS, my top choices are MacArthur's NT Commentaries, the Pillar set, the New American set, and the Baker Exegetical set. I also like many of the volumes in Bible Speaks Today and Mentor sets.

Of the sets you list, I have Tyndale, and it works fine, though some volumes are a bit dated.

Mark Smith

Ralph,

I believe for your purpose you'd be disappointed in the Preacher's Commentaries and the Pulpit Commentaries.

The best would be Tyndale. If you were to get Expositor's, you should spend the extra money and purchase the new, revised set. I realize it's a bit more than the old version, but that one was marked by inconsistency of quality.

Evan Boardman

Dude!! If your already planning on buying Lange's, just get the Bronze L5 its included and will cost you less! At least it will cost me less.

Doc B

(Feel free to recommend other sets if you so desire)

If I had any manners, I'd have posted links. Here's a few-

http://www.logos.com/product/8796/macarthurs-nt-commentaries-collection-10

http://www.logos.com/product/8587/the-bible-speaks-today-new-testament

http://www.logos.com/product/19001/the-new-american-commentary-series

http://www.logos.com/product/16010/pillar-new-testament-commentary

http://www.logos.com/product/23958/baker-exegetical-commentary-on-the-new-testament

http://www.logos.com/product/5928/mentor-old-testament-commentary-collection

http://www.logos.com/product/8072/mentor-commentary-series-upgrade

Todd Phillips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/424646#Comment_424646

The best would be Tyndale. If you were to get Expositor's, you should spend the extra money and purchase the new, revised set. I realize it's a bit more than the old version, but that one was marked by inconsistency of quality.

I agree with Mark. Tyndale gives the most bang for the buck, and it covers every book of the Bible.

Ralph Wood

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/424648#Comment_424648

Dude!! If your already planning on buying Lange's, just get the Bronze L5 its included and will cost you less! At least it will cost me less.

Thanks, Evan. At this point, I'm not "planning" on anything specific...just trying to get some recommendations for commentaries. I do hope to do a cross grade to the L5 Silver feature set to get Clause Search capability - once cross grades are announced. If the commentary set I settle on happens to be in on the Silver base package, then I may go that route...but the cost of that Silver base package is $530 for me...and I'm not sure I want to go that high. I'm not keen on paying for a package where I'll only use 20 or 30 of 350 resources.

Joshua Coady

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/424652#Comment_424652

I got a discount on Tyndale purchasing it at the same time as an L5 upgrade. I think the prices was $160. The price was as you listed on the product page, but when I added to cart (that already had an L5 upgrade in it) the discount was reflected.

Edwin Bowden

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/424652#Comment_424652

The best would be Tyndale. If you were to get Expositor's, you should spend the extra money and purchase the new, revised set. I realize it's a bit more than the old version, but that one was marked by inconsistency of quality.

I agree with Mark. Tyndale gives the most bang for the buck, and it covers every book of the Bible.

I agree with Mark and Todd. Tyndale and Expositors are good choices. I would skip Pulpit and Preachers.

I've taught SS for over 40 yrs. I've use Logos for 5 yrs. Started with Bible Study pkg. Moved to Gold. Upgraded to L4 Platinum 3 yrs ago. Upgraded to L5 Platinum last week.

If you upgrade, I highly recommend that you add the IVP Essential Collection at a bargain price ($99?) from the CUSTOMIZE button. It is a great collection of unique dictionaries.

Mark O'Hearn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/424658#Comment_424658

Some of the most important work occurs in Sunday School, so please do not be a "lay person" but get up and teach my friend.

I have way too many commentaries, including those you have listed. If you are just starting to build your commentaries Tyndale and NAC are both conservative and informative and could act as a "foundation" until you add some more technical commentaries. NAC is probably the one of the most underrated commentary series around; it has a number of highly ranked volumes.

Of the others on your list, after reviewing a more technical series, I often will usually consult EBC. I find it often adds something interesting to the study, and would be well suited in scope to a Sunday School situation. You can obtain it at a good price, however, as Christmas sales are around the corner you may wish to wait a bit before making any decision.

Regards

Edwin Bowden

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/424655#Comment_424655

but the cost of that Silver base package is $530 for me...and I'm not sure I want to go that high. I'm not keen on paying for a package where I'll only use 20 or 30 of 350 resources.

Don't worry about the titles that you don't think you'll use (some may surprise you later).

Look at the useful titles that you will gain. Add up the cost of buying them separately. It doesn't take many sets to add up to more than the cost to upgrade to a base package. The NAC in the Silver pkg is a good set of 40 vol. It costs $499 by itself.

Pedro

Tyndale Commentaries .............................................................................. 49 $ 225

Ralph, shop around for the Tyndale set, you can find it at a better price or when ready call logos sales people for a better/match price.

Blessings,

Mark Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/424659#Comment_424659

I highly recommend that you add the IVP Essential Collection at a bargain price ($99?) from the CUSTOMIZE button. It is a great collection of unique dictionaries.

That is a big thumbs up from me as well. A great collection at a great price.

Andy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/424688#Comment_424688

I highly recommend that you add the IVP Essential Collection at a bargain price ($99?) from the CUSTOMIZE button. It is a great collection of unique dictionaries.

That is a big thumbs up from me as well. A great collection at a great price.

I wholeheartedly agree. This is the single most used and most valuable purchase I have made. The price is phenomenal for the quality of content you will be adding to your library.

Ronald Quick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/424688#Comment_424688

I regularly use Tyndale and Expositor's. Preacher's and Pulpit get very little use. I have Lange's, but have not found it as useful as I'd hoped.

Ronald Quick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/424646#Comment_424646

If you were to get Expositor's, you should spend the extra money and purchase the new, revised set. I realize it's a bit more than the old version, but that one was marked by inconsistency of quality.

I have the older Expositor's. Can you give some examples of the inconsistencies.

Thanks,

Ron

Jerry Bush

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/424693#Comment_424693

Mostly echoing a few things...

Tyndale is the best on your list, in my opinion. Call sales and ask for a price match. It is sold cheaper elsewhere but better to give Logos your money, right?

Preacher's Commentary is the only resource I regret purchasing; I paid a lot more though. I find it utterly useless.

The IVP Essential Collection is just that: Essential. The best money I've ever spent on Logos.

Jerry

Ralph Wood

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/424688#Comment_424688

Mark...is the $99 collection you're referring to the NT collection?

Ralph Wood

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/424697#Comment_424697

Several of you have mentioned asking for a price match. What are these other sources to which you are comparing prices? I always check Amazon.com but mostly for reviews and ability to "look inside". Isn't it comparing apples with oranges to compare prices for a Logos resource against a printed version ... or an e-book version (like Kindle)? Can those really be used as leverage with Logos?

Pedro

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/424704#Comment_424704

Look for resources in the Libronix format. These are compatible with Logos 4 and 5 versions.

Juanita

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/424706#Comment_424706

If your heart is set on Lange's and Pulpit Commentaries, you can get them in free Bible software. If you don't mind running more than one Bible software package on your computer, that is.