What new resources in Logos 5 are not available yet?
I know that the Apostolic Fathers Reverse Interlinear by Brannan in not yet ready for release, but is there an easy way to check the other new resources in L5 without searching for each one individually in my library?
Thanks,
Ron
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Ronald Quick said:
I know that the Apostolic Fathers Reverse Interlinear by Brannan in not yet ready for release, but is there an easy way to check the other new resources in L5 without searching for each one individually in my library?
I don't think so as there are no notes on the Upgrade page, other than "New to 5".
Dave
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I went through the "new to Logos 5" for Logos 5 Silver and the only resources I could not find in my library were:
- Apostolic Fathers Reverse Interlinear
- LEB English-Hebrew Reverse Interlinear
Another thing that made me curious was the resources that are listed as "New to Logos 5", but they were present in Logos 3 Silver and Gold packages. I'm guessing that because they were not in Logos 4 that is the reason they are new to Logos 5.
A couple examples are:
- Greek New Testament Insert
- Hebrew Bible Insert: A Student’s Guide to the Syntax of
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Ronald Quick said:
I went through the "new to Logos 5" for Logos 5 Silver and the only resources I could not find in my library were:
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- Apostolic Fathers Reverse Interlinear
- LEB English-Hebrew Reverse Interlinear
Another thing that made me curious was the resources that are listed as "New to Logos 5", but they were present in Logos 3 Silver and Gold packages. I'm guessing that because they were not in Logos 4 that is the reason they are new to Logos 5.
A couple examples are:
- Greek New Testament Insert
- Hebrew Bible Insert: A Student’s Guide to the Syntax of Biblical Hebrew
I had an exchange with Phil Gons regarding these very resouces and we continued to disagree. I think it's package inflation.
george
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LEB English-Hebrew RI might not be done yet, they are still coding it I think.
Like fgh pointed out, the Apostolic Fathers RI has only been renamed: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/58191/427188.aspx#427188.Ronald Quick said:I went through the "new to Logos 5" for Logos 5 Silver and the only resources I could not find in my library were:
- Apostolic Fathers Reverse Interlinear
- LEB English-Hebrew Reverse Interlinear
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Thanks for the reminder about the Apostolic Fathers name change. I had read this in the forum about 2 weeks ago, but had forgotten.
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Well, George, package inflation is another word for 'marketing'. Consumers respond to 'bulk'.
But the good news, as you saw in another thread yesterday, is the the RI's are probably on their 'last legs' in Logos and will be phased out with Logos6.
The replacement, currently named 'Reverse Visuals' allows viewing the text in reverse. When the idea was first 'surfaced' (similar to a manuscript), the reaction was understandably less than positive.
But 'marketing' once again came through with the obvious use in church, when you want to read the person behind you's computer using a mirror.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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DMB said:
The replacement, currently named 'Reverse Visuals' allows viewing the text in reverse. When the idea was first 'surfaced' (similar to a manuscript), the reaction was understandably less than positive.
You mean like this?
george
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Haha ha! That was funny!
George Somsel said:You mean like this?
DMB said:The replacement, currently named 'Reverse Visuals' allows viewing the text in reverse. When the idea was first 'surfaced' (similar to a manuscript), the reaction was understandably less than positive.
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Hard to say with an RI handy (left my mirror on the pew during services).
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From the Minimum Crossgrade description page at least these four are still not delivered:
- Lexham Hebrew Septuagint Reverse interlinear: H.B. Swete Edition**
- Lexham Hebrew Septuagint Reverse interlinear: H.B. Swete Edition, , Alternate Texts**
- The Lexham English Septuagint: Alternate Texts**
- The English-Hebrew Reverse Interlinear Old Testament Lexham English Bible**
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Ronald Quick said:
I went through the "new to Logos 5" for Logos 5 Silver and the only resources I could not find in my library were:
That won't find everything that hasn't been released yet. For one thing there's the BHS with Richter morphology, which is still missing from L4. And the NIV RI, I believe (I find it fascinating that the chart includes the NIV RI, but not the NIV itself...).
Swete's LXX is also supposed to be incomplete.
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That's scary! If I upgrade to Silver, do I or do I not get the 2011 NIV English Bible and/or the the NIV RI?
fgh said:That won't find everything that hasn't been released yet. [...] And the NIV RI, I believe (I find it fascinating that the chart includes the NIV RI, but not the NIV itself...).
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Unix said:
do I or do I not get the 2011 NIV English Bible and/or the the NIV RI?
No one gets the NIV English Bible in L5. It is available separately.
The NIV RI New Testament is in all packages Bronze and above. The NIV RI Old Testament is not listed. We are told it is still coming. Those who were in L4 and had the NIV RI were promised the OT when it was done. I don't know how they will handle it for new users in L5.
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I hope to get as little of it as possible if I upgrade.
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Unix said:
I hope to get as little of it as possible if I upgrade.
You can always hide what you don't want.
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Yeah I'm hiding a large part of my items. But I would rather not support the publishers.
Mark Smith said:
You can always hide what you don't want.Unix said:I hope to get as little of it as possible if I upgrade.
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Mark Smith said:
The NIV RI Old Testament is not listed.
Yes, it is:
Mark Smith said:I don't know how they will handle it for new users in L5.
That's the big question. I don't think they'll be happy finding out that having two NIV RI files doesn't mean they can use the NIV.
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fgh said:
Yes, it is:
Where is that screenshot from? Here's the upgrades page listing, NIV RI Greek-English NT only:
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Mark Smith said:
Where is that screenshot from? Here's the upgrades page listing, NIV RI Greek-English NT only:
Interesting. This is what I saw until I just refreshed the page:
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fgh said:
Interesting. This is what I saw until I just refreshed the page:
Interesting, too. Makes one wonder even more about Logos' plans for the OT RI.
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