Font change

Too much leading and too much kerning.

Far be it from to complain about a free app so wonderfully made. But, I do prefer the previous font. I hate to eve ask, but it would be nice to have a choice of a few fonts...

Just curious, is providing one or more options for fonts a significant programming hurdle? 

Regardless, thank you for a truly incredible Bible app.

I have to agree, the new font seems to distract from reading. Most people, including myself, are used to reading a Times Roman or Arial font. It isn't distracting because it is so common. I find while reading with this new font the letters seem too narrow to me. I also feel as though the Greek font alters certail letter (e.g. Theta) too much and distracts from easy recognition. I would ask that you would give a choice on fonts, this is too critical a preference not allow for some basic choice. Thanks.

dave

I'm sorry you do not like the decision to change the English font. What about it is more difficult to read? 

I will try and give some clarity to why many find the new font difficult to read for a lengthy amount of time.

1. All strokes of each character are the same width.

2. The font resembles a typewriter font more than a typeset font. (It is closer to Courier than Times.)

3. There is too much leading (too much space between lines of text).

4. There is so much space between characters that it almost looks like a monospaced font (where each character occupies the same amount of space horizontally)

5. The italics of the font are not easily distinguishable from the regular font. So, you have to look twice to make sure it's in italics.

All five reasons given above make following a line of text more difficult to read and more tiring to read. The two good things about the font are it is a serif font and the characters are clear (not blurry) on screen. But anyone who does typesetting or knows about design and typography SHOULD know these concepts listed above. Many of them are clear "no-nos" for publishing.

While some people may not care much about the new font, these concepts have been shown to cause exactly what many are complaining about in the majority of the population. Any company that publishes books should be extremely aware of these concepts and seek to avoid them. I am amazed that Logos would choose a font like this!

I prefer the new font. It seems more crisp and sharp. I hope Logos give their customers a choice of fonts like Olive Tree does. Customers like choices. [:)]

Just to clarify...Is this the font that so many are complaining about? (3.1.1.1744)

I will try and give some clarity to why many find the new font difficult to read for a lengthy amount of time.

I think Dan's five clarifications are helpful for those of us describing the typesetting issues. I'd add one more reason why I find the newer font distressing on the eyes:

6. There is a significant difference between the cap and ascender lines. This is most easily seen where a tall letter follows a capital (as in 'The' or 'Illegal' or 'Ultimate'); the capitals cower a little below the height of the taller letters.

I've just finished a 100,000-word dissertation and spent weeks procrastinating – using font selection as my excuse. I expressly rejected fonts like the new iPad version, finding them just not viable for sustained reading. Indeed, I tried valiantly to procure one close to the older Logos font. I'll add my voice to those seeking the option to restore it.

I hope if Logos would give a choice of fonts, they would keep the Skolar (new) font in the offer also. 

I just opened a Greek Bible on my iPhone and saw the theta in the new font. Not a fan. I still love it in English though. Any chance, when the option is added, that I'll be able to choose different fonts for each language?

I completely agree! The new font is much more difficult to read than the old font. I was REALLY disappointed when I saw the new font and found that there is no way to change it back or to a different font. The old font was excellent - readable, attractive and easy on the eyes during extended reading. The new font is exactly the opposite. I am hopeful that Logos will either revert to the old font or give us the choice of which font to use. As for the iOS version being free, it is. However, the content that we paid for is not and can be viewed only using Logos apps. I am extremely happy with the Logos platform and capabilities. This font change, however, is something that I do not understand and hope that Logos will change quickly

Thanks Kevin. Although the clarity and rendering of the new font does seem nicer, for me the biggest problem is the increased vertical spacing and therefore wasted whitespace between lines. On my lowly iPod Touch 4 with the ESV bible at default font size (4th notch on slider) I can fit only 16 lines on a screen. At the next smaller size (3rd notch) I can see 19 lines but the smaller font size is a strain for my ageing eyes. By comparison, BibleReader can fit 22 lines on the screen with a bigger font (Georgia) which I find easier to read.

I don't know if it is possible, but in additional to being able to choose a font, would it be possible to include an adjustment to change the amount of space between lines?

Ken

Please, when might Logos bring back the old font or offer an improved font for the iPad? I used to use Logos all the time on the iPad, but not any more. I have some knowledge of type-setting, book publishing, and fonts, and it seems to me the present font is far too ornate and decorative for text reading, more like a display font used for invitations, announcements etc., rather than for sustained reading. The serifs are strong and curved to such an extent that they distract the eye, and the font overall of a spidery appearance. (Perhaps it is better for smaller devices such as the iPad mini, or iPhone, but  in my view, and it would seem in that of others also, certainly not on the iPad.) Even a plain non serif font would be better. I find myself going back to using Logos on my laptop most of the time, but this is not always convenient. The old saying was, "If it's not broke, don't mend it." If I had known sooner I would not have upgraded, but now I am at the mercy of Logos. Here's hoping that someone in development will take notice. There are so many good resources but I am not enjoying them on the iPad in the way I did previously.

Brother ( I hope not bother ) Andrew