Index of Logos Maps??

Wyn Laidig
Wyn Laidig Member Posts: 401 ✭✭
edited November 20 in English Forum

How can I find an list of all the Logos maps in Bible Facts??

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  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith Member, MVP Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭

    Wyn, there isn't one. In L4 we were given a note file of the maps exclusive to Bible Places. That file no longer works as the linking data has changed. I think eventually we'll get a new one. Others would like it.

    You do know that many of the maps are from your other resources, so an index would not include those.

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  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Even though there isn't an index of all the maps, you can do a search for all maps in your Library using this syntax (which is shown in the helpful new Search hints feature):

    #image ANDEQUALS tag:map

    Note that this will only include maps that are in resources in your library, thus it will not include the maps that are in the Biblical Places dataset. The only way to access those is through Biblical Facts, though Biblical Facts will also access maps that are in library resources.

    Related to your question, it would be awesome if Logos would provide basic browsing access to all the data in Biblical Facts (i.e., an index to all People, Places, Things, and Events in the datasets), so we can discover all that is in there without having to know a particular term to search for.

    Also, I'd like to see a key somewhere that explains what each of the possible icons in Biblical Facts means (most of them one can figure out from context):

    image

  • Edwin Bowden
    Edwin Bowden Member Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭

    Even though there isn't an index of all the maps, you can do a search for all maps in your Library using this syntax (which is shown in the helpful new Search hints feature):

    #image ANDEQUALS tag:map

    Note that this will only include maps that are in resources in your library, thus it will not include the maps that are in the Biblical Places dataset. The only way to access those is through Biblical Facts, though Biblical Facts will also access maps that are in library resources.

    Related to your question, it would be awesome if Logos would provide basic browsing access to all the data in Biblical Facts (i.e., an index to all People, Places, Things, and Events in the datasets), so we can discover all that is in there without having to know a particular term to search for.

    Also, I'd like to see a key somewhere that explains what each of the possible icons in Biblical Facts means (most of them one can figure out from context):

    image


    Rosie, I'm amazed that there is something about Logos that I knew that you didn't.

    I just found today in a video (I think it was by Mark Barnes), that your ??? are Groups of people.

    Thre is a separate icon for named Females (red or pink in color).

  • Sean Boisen
    Sean Boisen Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,452

    Sorry that those links no longer work: I've filed a bug report. For the record, the previous links were based on <a target="_blank" href="logos4:Places;">logos4:Places;</a>, but in Logos 5, people, places, and things are all in the Bible Facts tool. So the new base is <a target="_blank" href="logos4:Facts;">logos4:Facts;</a>. (but i'm hoping we can make the old links work again in a future release)

    I haven't yet been able to create an updated set of links: there may be some other issues going on. I'll try to post back here with a revised list when i have one that works with Logos 5.

  • Doc B
    Doc B Member Posts: 3,537 ✭✭✭

    Sorry that those links no longer work: I've filed a bug report. For the record, the previous links were based on <a target="_blank" href="logos4:Places;">logos4:Places;</a>, but in Logos 5, people, places, and things are all in the Bible Facts tool. So the new base is <a target="_blank" href="logos4:Facts;">logos4:Facts;</a>. (but i'm hoping we can make the old links work again in a future release)

    I haven't yet been able to create an updated set of links: there may be some other issues going on. I'll try to post back here with a revised list when i have one that works with Logos 5.

    Excellent!

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  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    I just found today in a video (I think it was by Mark Barnes), that your ??? are Groups of people.

    That's right. There are also several different icons used for places, depending on what type of place it is.


    • Cities have a castle
    • Regions have a pin
    • Natural features (mountains, rivers, lakes, etc.) have a mountain

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  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just found today in a video (I think it was by Mark Barnes), that your ??? are Groups of people.

    That's right. There are also several different icons used for places, depending on what type of place it is.

    • Cities have a castle
    • Regions have a pin
    • Natural features (mountains, rivers, lakes, etc.) have a mountain

    Thanks for the explanation. It would still be nice if Logos had a key to all of these icons somewhere within the software. Sean?

  • Sean Boisen
    Sean Boisen Member, Logos Employee Posts: 1,452

    I can give you the non-pictorial, probably mostly complete version (but i don't have easy access to the graphic files). These descriptions probably don't represent exactly what the graphic designer actually had in mind [:)]

    • flag: event
    • people
      • blue weeble: male individual
      • pink weeble: female individual
      • grey weeble: supernatural being
      • cluster of 3 tiny gold weebles: group of people
    • places
      • brown gate: city
      • green mountain: mountains, bodies of water, rivers, valleys
      • orange building with capitals: roads
      • grey pin: region
    • grey pot: things

    I agree that would be useful to have a legend: i'll pass that suggestion along to our design group. Just don't ask me to explain the origin of the icons for Guides and Tools [:^)]

  • Wyn Laidig
    Wyn Laidig Member Posts: 401 ✭✭

    So the new base is <a target="_blank" href="logos4:Facts;">logos4:Facts;</a>.

    I am not how to find this note file, or where to type this "logos4:facts" line.  Will this help me find a list of maps?   If so, can someone more versed in this give me some more direction?  Thanks!

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith Member, MVP Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭

    I am not how to find this note file

    Wyn, the file we've referred to does not work in L5. It was created for and works in L4. Since you are running L5 you will need to wait until someone at Logos can update the file. I wouldn't expect that before the first of the year and probably a bit after that as they have a of more more important things to do.

    You cannot find a list of the maps in the Bible Facts tool right now.

    where to type this "logos4:facts" line.

    This is not something you and I can use to find maps. It is part of what will have to be corrected in the old note file for it to work with the New Bible Facts tool.

     

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    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree that would be useful to have a legend: i'll pass that suggestion along to our design group.

    Thanks! That will help others explore and learn the product in the future...

    Just don't ask me to explain the origin of the icons for Guides and Tools Huh?

    Um, yeah. Some of them are quite...interesting.

    Everyone, quick, out of context, would you be able to guess what these refer to? Some kind of games for kids?

    image  = bubbles?

    image = a loopy roller coaster?

    image  = an upside-down sippy cup?

    image = backwards musical notes, or a pitch-n-put golf course?

    I'm just joshing. I'd find it pretty hard to make up icons for all the tools in Logos. So kudos to the graphic design group.

  • Bruce Dunning
    Bruce Dunning Member, MVP Posts: 11,125 ✭✭✭

    I agree that would be useful to have a legend: i'll pass that suggestion along to our design group.

    Thanks! That will help others explore and learn the product in the future...

    Just don't ask me to explain the origin of the icons for Guides and Tools Huh?

    Um, yeah. Some of them are quite...interesting.

    Everyone, quick, out of context, would you be able to guess what these refer to? Some kind of games for kids?

    image  = bubbles?

    image = a loopy roller coaster?

    image  = an upside-down sippy cup?

    image = backwards musical notes, or a pitch-n-put golf course?

    I'm just joshing. I'd find it pretty hard to make up icons for all the tools in Logos. So kudos to the graphic design group.

    I'll bite....

    Bubbles? No, I'd guess a block of swiss cheese [:D]

    A loopy roller coaster? No, I'd guess an early Christian writing the fish symbol but nervous that someone antagonistic to "The Way" was watching so they put a hook on the end to look like they were just doodling [:D]

    An upside-down sippy cup? No, I'd guess a canon [:D]

    Backwards musical notes or a pitch-n-put golf course? No, I'd guess a section of a zipper [:D]

    Seriously, it must be hard work to come up with these. I'd love to be a bug on a wall listening to the design team brainstorm ideas. [I]

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  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bubbles? No, I'd guess a block of swiss cheese Big Smile

    A loopy roller coaster? No, I'd guess an early Christian writing the fish symbol but nervous that someone antagonistic to "The Way" was watching so they put a hook on the end to look like they were just doodling Big Smile

    An upside-down sippy cup? No, I'd guess a canon Big Smile

    Backwards musical notes or a pitch-n-put golf course? No, I'd guess a section of a zipper Big Smile

    Hee hee! Great guesses.

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  • Brisa Davis
    Brisa Davis Member Posts: 891

    In L4 we were given a note file of the maps exclusive to Bible Places. That file no longer works as the linking data has changed.

    The issue of some L4 links not working in Logos 5 will be fixed in 5.0b RC 1 for beta users, and in general when 5.0b RC 1 ships to the stable channel.

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith Member, MVP Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭

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    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Great.


    Sean Boisen's Logos Maps Links Note File now works perfectly for me!                     Thank you, Sean!             Thank you, Logos!

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  • Jacob Wa
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  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) Member, MVP Posts: 36,470 ✭✭✭

    How do you open the note file?

    As per above:

    Wyn, the file we've referred to does not work in L5.

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  • Jacob Wa
    Jacob Wa Member Posts: 7 ✭✭

    Brisa Davis said the links were fixed in 5.0b RC1, and Milford said he was able to open the file. I'm assuming this means that the file has been fixed, I'm just unsure on how to open it?

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Brisa Davis said the links were fixed in 5.0b RC1, and Milford said he was able to open the file. I'm assuming this means that the file has been fixed, I'm just unsure on how to open it?

    Someone has turned it into a Logos personal book. Here's the Word .docx file you need:

    5504.Boisen, Sean - Index of L5 maps.docx

    You can either open it in Word (if you have that) and click on the links directly there, or copy/paste the contents into a Logos Note file, or best of all compile it into a Personal Book so it will be part of your Logos library. Follow the instructions here to make it into a PB: http://wiki.logos.com/Personal_Books#Building_Personal_Books

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Brisa Davis said the links were fixed in 5.0b RC1, and Milford said he was able to open the file. I'm assuming this means that the file has been fixed, I'm just unsure on how to open it?

    Someone has turned it into a Logos personal book. Here's the Word .docx file you need:

    5504.Boisen, Sean - Index of L5 maps.docx

    You can either open it in Word (if you have that) and click on the links directly there, or copy/paste the contents into a Logos Note file, or best of all compile it into a Personal Book so it will be part of your Logos library. Follow the instructions here to make it into a PB: http://wiki.logos.com/Personal_Books#Building_Personal_Books

    Peace, Rosie and Jacob!                 *smile*                               Actually I've done both ....             I have Sean's file both as a PB AND as a note!      

                                 Gives me lots and lots of options ....

                        Also, a testimony!               Just so it doesn't get lost in the next antiquity ............          Halo Hound did some preliminary basic work on that file way, way back when and deserves at least "a pat on the back," eh???          *smile*

    Edit:          If one wanted the "notes version," one of the simplest ways is to download it from the FaithLife Group by Steve Clark, called ...  clark-Examples

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