Has anyone listed all the volumes individually in each Logos 5 upgrade package?

I am fairly new to the forums (not to Logos!), so maybe I am looking in the wrong place (or maybe this is the wrong place to ask this particular question!). But here goes.

In considering the Logos 5 upgrade packages, I am wondering whether there is (for example) a
downloadable excel spreadsheet of all the individual volumes each package
contains. They list the series, but do not indicate individual volumes.
For example, the Diamond Upgrade (which I am considering) lists the
History of Israel collection (19 volumes). The upgrade guide helpfully tells me that I
own 6 of the 19, but there is no list of the ones I have (or even a list
of all 19 volumes). It would be nice if you could just click on the
History of Israel collection, and it would open up a link where it
describes the 19 volumes in detail (listing each volume title specifically), but alas, they have not done that.
So instead, I have to get to the logos site and search for the History
of Israel collection myself. I have to repeat that process over 60 times (for the Platinum upgrade--a little less for the Diamond)

If someone has made a list of every book in each package, that would
be a wonderful help--and especially if it was in excel format, or
something similar.

If not, then I have to go through manually
every single set, look up on logos's website to find the contents of the
volume, and then check which ones I own. That process will take hours and hours!

As it is, I can't tell if the upgrade price I am being charged (for Platinum, Diamond, or Portfolio) is worth it--since I own so many
volumes in each.

Thanks!

Todd

P.S. On a related note: for those with large collections, how do you personally keep track of each title you own? Do you use a database separate from Logos or an Excel spreadsheet? Or have you just given up trying to figure it out?

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Fred Chapman

I have not seen a uder list that provides the detail you're looking for; so you may be out of luck with that.

As for the value of upgrading, that is a personal decision. For me I went from L4 Platinum to L5 Platinum. I saw value in the additional resources combined with the new features and tools. If you already have a library that meets your needs, you may want to consider the minimal crossgrade option. You will lose none of the resources and features you currently have, and gain the new datasets and features.

Tracking large collections is much easier in L5 because you can now view and sort your library by collection.

Daniel Lee

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/439854#Comment_439854

Here's my approach. All I did was click upgrade, then click "new to me" so I will only see the new books added to the package.

Then I skimmed that list and made a note of the more significant/valuable items (v.s every book). Then the price of the upgrade to get those items.

For example, if I got the silver upgrade (currently have L4 Platinum), I would add Calvin's Commentaries, Biographical Dictionary of Evangelicals, and Theological Lexicons of the OT/NT. The upgrade cost would be ~$200. To me, not worth it because Calvin's Commentaries would be a 'nice to have' vs. a 'have to have', since I can look them up in other places fairly easily. The other tools would be helpful but perhaps overlap with ones that I already have.

Jumping to the Platinum upgrade, it would cost around $650-700 and add the previous 2-3 resources (that most interested me), as well as Themelios 1-37, Exegetical Summaries of OT/NT, Works of Edwards, Lenski's NT Commentary, NA28, etc. I realize there are many other works as well, but those were key ones. Again, good value for those resources compared to regular pricing for each collection, but at this point I don't think I need them. They are just 'nice to haves'.

The Diamond upgrade is most tempting in terms of what it adds but also way out of my price range at the moment at $1500+. Many great books...College Press NIV, Christian HIstory and Biography, Letters of Calvin, Chafer's Systematic, LSJ, Carson's Love of God, Warfield Collection, and so on...but again, many of these are books that I would honestly not refer to regularly now that I'm out of seminary, or until/unless I were the preaching pastor at a larger church. So, they can wait.

So, my conclusion was to do either the minimal crossgrade (if I get some $ at Christmas), or wait on the free engine update, which I hope is closer to January than March, though both would be 'early next year'. And then work on using the books I already have. Hope that process helps you save some time in thinking through what to do.

Doc B

for those with large collections, how do you personally keep track of each title you own?

I use a Borg implant. Keeps me in touch with each volume, and I can assimilate new ones as needed.

[pause]

OK, seriously, I don't feel the need to keep up with every volume, if by 'keep up' you mean have them listed somewhere. Such a list would be marginally useful at best, as it would be close to sixty pages, printed.

I use user tags and collections to find related resources, and I find this method works much better than a hard list, as generally the various resources cross over from topic-to-topic ubiquitously. It takes a bit different way of thinking about tangible resources, but these aren't tangible, they are virtual; once you get your paradigm switched, you won't worry so much about keeping track of all of them.

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

As it is, I can't tell if the upgrade price I am being charged (for Platinum, Diamond, or Portfolio) is worth it--since I own so many
volumes in each.

Personally Thankful for items on my wish list being in the Logos 5 Portfolio; the delta upgrade from Diamond to Portfolio was less than 10 % of the regular price for many wish list items.

Diamond includes several Jewish Publication Society (JPS) resources: Tanakh Commentary, Guide to Jewish Traditions, and Dictionary of Jewish Words. Also noticed: "New Testament Exegesis and Research: A Guide for Seminarians" and "Liddell and Scott Greek–English Lexicon (LSJ)". Theology includes Lewis Sperry Chafer's Systematic Theology plus lots more.

Logos 5 Portfolio includes Encyclopedia of Judaism, Jewish Law (4 vols.), Textual Guide to the Greek New Testament, Studies in New Testament Greek and JSNTS collection plus more.

After upgrading to Logos 5 Portfolio, noticed a number of series were now complete: e.g. A.T. Robertson Collection, NAC Commentary, ...

Thankful for Logos payment plan.

P.S. On a related note: for those with large collections, how do you personally keep track of each title you own? Do you use a database separate from Logos or an Excel spreadsheet? Or have you just given up trying to figure it out?

Use Logos to manage my Logos library, which has over 100 collections. Personally use tagging for information that is not available in metadata: e.g. morphology, interlinear, purchase bundle, community pricing, free, ...

Keep Smiling [:)]

Rosie Perera

P.S. On a related note: for those with large collections, how do you personally keep track of each title you own? Do you use a database separate from Logos or an Excel spreadsheet? Or have you just given up trying to figure it out?

I use Logos only. No sense in duplicating information that's already in a database.

When I buy new resources, if they were part of a collection, I tag them with the collection name (with the prefix "Bundle: " so I can easily sort/group by collections), for example, "Bundle: History of Israel."

I also tag all new books with the purchase date in YYYYMMDD format so they will sort properly, e.g., "Bought: 20121211"

I also sometimes look at my Order history on the Logos website when I need to resolve any questions about when I bought something or whether I am missing something I think I ought to have because I paid for it.

Unfortunately, I've fallen way behind on tagging my books, so my system doesn't work very well for me anymore, but I'm hoping to catch up at some point before it's too late.

Fred Chapman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/440155#Comment_440155

Unfortunately, I've fallen way behind on tagging my books, so my system doesn't work very well for me anymore, but I'm hoping to catch up at some point before it's too late.

After you catch yours up, come down to Alabama and catch mine up. I'll have my wife fry you something[:D]

abondservant

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/440260#Comment_440260

What is the purpose of tagging in that way? Doesn't a search simply bring up the relevant information?

Donnie Hale

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/440301#Comment_440301

What is the purpose of tagging in that way? Doesn't a search simply bring up the relevant information?

I tag resources pretty much the way Rosie does. These tags (bundles in which a resource was purchased and purchase date) is mostly for library management. My first package was L4 Platinum, and I tagged all those resources as such. So it's easy for me to see what I've purchased since then. Sometimes I know I've bought some books recently but don't remember each specific one (esp. pre-pub books that just show up). I can use the date tags to see my recent purchases.

FYI...

Donnie

Todd Beall

Thanks for all the replies. Many of you had some good ideas on tagging that I hadn't considered. Though I still may end up doing an excel spreadsheet of all the books I own electronically, since I own at least as many actual books (and have such a list of them). That will ahve to wait til the summer, however!

But, I guess in terms of my main question, there is no list available of all the resources in these packages, right? (not collections, but all individual books) I feel certain that someone must have done this, but maybe not.

In fact, I am a bit surprised that Logos folks haven't done this themselves, to make comparison easier. Even if they would allow a simple clickable link to each collection from the description in the upgrade list, that small addition would help immensely. But I don't see a way to do it other than to type in manually the collection name into Logos and get the info that way. Slow and cumbersome, to say the least--especially with 60-some collections in some packages.

Thanks!

Todd

Martin Folley

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/440155#Comment_440155

When I buy new resources, if they were part of a collection, I tag them with the collection name (with the prefix "Bundle: " so I can easily sort/group by collections), for example, "Bundle: History of Israel."

I also tag all new books with the purchase date in YYYYMMDD format so they will sort properly, e.g., "Bought: 20121211"

I used to the same ...

I've fallen way behind on tagging my books

... and this also ... [;)]

I found that I had too many tags ... sorting the library, or populating the various lists was becoming cumbersome etc. so I am trying something new in L5 ... Bibliographies. I can create a bibliography and populate it from a collection, and then I can delete the original purchase tags.

If I need to reinstate the tags at a later date from a bibliography I can create a collection from the bibliography, filter the library to that collection ... and then re- tag all the resources from there.

Whilst I have deleted the original 'purchased' tags but have tagged them all with 'zBibbed' just to identify those items that have been tagged in this way.

When creating a bibliography, you can populate it from a 'collection' ... the collection button does not only list your collections but each individual 'Mytag'. So I can populate a bibliography from my existing tags without actually creating a specific collection.

Hopefully I can separate the data out. It will distinguish between historical purchase tags from tags that relate to resource topics and style.

An Aside:

The original point in tagging this data was to identify resources where I might have duplicate licenses. Maybe I bought resource A on pre-pub ono to find it bundled in with another bundle later on (e.g. Library Builder). My intention was that I might be able to transfer the original purchase onto my son or another Logos user without losing the resource from my own library.

Under the new L5 'credit' system I cannot do this as often. For example, if Resource B was in Library builder, and then also in L5 'package x' then I will assume my L5x price was discounted because of already owning resource B. Therefore it follows that I cannot transfer ownership of resource B. Since bundles cannot be split, then I can no longer transfer the Library builder bundle itself since part of it was used for L5x credit ... so all the library builder resources are effectively locked into my L5x purchase with respect to transferring them. There are quite a few resources that are now indirectly locked to my L5 base package such as library builder and the Christmas 2010 bundles.

This is not a moan ... just an observation ... I am very happy to have the credit for what I already own ... but it does make identifying reources that you can legitimately transfer into a rather complex process.

In terms of tagging, I have tagged every resource that is explicitly part of my L5 base package as zL5, and those that are indirectly locked as zL5i. The indirectly locked resources almost match the number of resources now attributed to the L5 base package.