TIP: Be Careful on Deleting Older Layouts with New Changes

My Layout opening was really SLOOOOOOW. Of course there were stacks and stacks of older layouts that I've no idea why it's keeping.

So I went and clicked on the delete for each one. You can probably imagine what happened next.

It started deleting the list on the left side too. My precious SAVED layouts. Luckily I only have 3. Now I have 1.

And luckily due to a program bug in the new system, it was unable to delete my really big layout that was not loaded but it thought it was, so it refused to delete that one! Whew, thank goodness for program bugs.

So be careful on layout deletes: they don't protect your saved ones on the left side.

This was also true in Logos4 but the new system implies the saved ones are in a special status when in fact, they're no different than the junky ones.

Also remember when you're rescueng a layout from the right list (by clicking on it), remember you can easily hit the delete and that little puppy just got taken to the animal shelter. This is not hard to do with a touch screen.

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Rosie Perera

If you haven't already, please write up a BUG: report for the bug you mentioned in the 4th paragraph.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/462599#Comment_462599

Thanks Rosie.

Bradley's already whacked the 2 bugs dead this morning (including the one you mentioned). So all's well (except this thread; I notice BillS already did what I did in Logos4 with similar unfortunate results.).

The experience, however, was interesting.

As I was deleting layouts with mindless energy, I got all the way to the bottom of August 2012 (which was identified as my big-boy layout but considerably out of date). Well, I was super-confident that no programmer would let me delete my saved layouts, so I deleted him! Then he came back duplicated. So I whacked him again and again. He just wouldn't die and even was able to duplicate himself. That's when I noticed 'big-boy' was all that was left of my saved layouts. I thought 'oh my goodness!'.

But the odd lesson, is that the in-use layout (that seems to prevent deletion?) isn't tied to your latest saved layout on the right-side. It's seems to be locked into the first-saved version from potentially years earlier?

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/462609#Comment_462609

The experience, however, was interesting.

It's quite easy to come up with bugs on Active Layout but they do need to be properly documented as Logos will ignore Tips!

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/462609#Comment_462609

But the odd lesson, is that the in-use layout (that seems to prevent deletion?) isn't tied to your latest saved layout on the right-side. It's seems to be locked into the first-saved version from potentially years earlier?

It could be tied to last one standing! "Active" doesn't track which layout image represents the current layout name (strictly, it's the current unnamed snapshot when you open the menu) so it doesn't care that you delete named layouts!

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/462701#Comment_462701

You're probably right (last layout standing). But I suspect Logos is well aware of the layout riskiness in deletes. We know of some Logos people who use the program.

But given substantial changes on two platforms and in two program areas (startup and layout management), I'm fully confident the issue was well known. "Users need to just be more careful. Our design was never meant for ladies wildly deleting critical Bible study features."

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/462735#Comment_462735

Our design was never meant for ladies wildly deleting critical Bible study features.

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