Help Please: I seem to be stuck in "Drag and Scroll" mode, no text selection possible...

I have run into a problem.

On one of my computers (A Win7 tablet), I am no longer able to select text in scroll view. (By "Scroll view" I mean the opposite of "Page View." In other words, what you get by selecting "None" on the column screen for a panel.)

When I touch the screen with my stylus and drag to select the text, Logos seems to think I am trying to "drag and scroll."

In Page View I am able to select text just fine. However, I need to use scroll view in order to select long passages for clippings.

I suspect there is a setting somewhere I have inadvertently modified to bring this calamity upon myself. I'd appreciate assistance in rectifying the situation.

The problem does not persist on my desktop, where I can select text just fine.

Thanks,

David

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JT (alabama24)

I suspect there is a setting somewhere I have inadvertently modified to bring this calamity upon myself. I'd appreciate assistance in rectifying the situation.

Do you have your columns set to "none" (which is different than set to "one")?

David Rudel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468196#Comment_468196

Yes, I have columns set to "none," but that should not prevent selection of text. On my desktop, I am able to select text in "scroll view."

DMB

Hi David on this fine sunny Lord's Day!

This is strictly a guess (double-guess). I also use a W7 tablet (Lenovo X220). Periodically Logos behaves differently in touch mode. My immediate reaction is that Logos has changed something. However, it turns out Lenovo updated my drivers (4 of them: stick, mouse, finger-touch, stylus-touch). And so the finger scroll recently has improved dramatically; the inertial scroll is the most impressive.

That said, though, I don't know if indeed Logos has improved responsiveness under the hood. Or alternatively some of the Windows updates have also improved (especially the WPM layer).

But when I saw your heading, I thought ... hmmm ... that sounds familiar! Happens to me constantly on Opera (which DOES have a finger-scroll/text switch). Logos doesn't have a switch, but I would play around with your tablet setting to see if an update changed the settings. Again, I don't know your PC but the Lenovo has pretty sophisticated algorythms to try to guess if you're using a finger or stylus, and then whether scrolling or selecting.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468199#Comment_468199

Yes, I have columns set to "none," but that should not prevent selection of text.

I didn't mean to imply that it did… I was just checking to make sure you were actually in "scroll view" (columns set to none). [:)]

My guess is that this is an issue unique to having a windows touch tablet… Which one do you have? Maybe someone will come along with a similar one and have a solution. Sorry I can't be of more help! [:S]

David Rudel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468200#Comment_468200

Hmmm... I hadn't even thought of that! I'll take a look. Thanks!

David Rudel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468201#Comment_468201

I have an acer iconia tablet.. and earlier it _never_ finger scrolled (which caused a fairly significant amount of vexation itself)... but now it is almost always perceiving my mouse movements as efforts at drag-and-scroll rather than simple selection.

David Rudel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468207#Comment_468207

This is rather annoying. I found a place to disable 1-touch panning altogether on my tablet, but it is still demonstrating this behavior.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468216#Comment_468216

With my new 'turbo' scroll, I tried finger-scroll (absolutely no text selection) vs the stylus (mainly text selection). Maybe a change indeed was made by Logos or Windows. I notice my other software still accepts text selection from my finger (but doesn't scroll!). Also, recently a lot of my older software has been popping the little keyboard icon up for data input fields. Plus in my task manager, Lenovo has another scroll process running.

Hard to say.

I AM amazed at my Logos inertial scrolling! I don't know how they keep up. I'd hate to be a pastor and accidentally inertial scroll my way out of the 'text of the day'. Whoa boy! Probably the congregation would have to wear seatbelts!

This problem is so ironic, since Logos used to be 'molasses-man'. I had to replace my touch screen several times due to using a chisel from the garage to move the scroll! Now I'll have to chain down the scroll bar.

By the way, did you play with the W7 settings:

David Rudel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468221#Comment_468221

Thanks for trying to help, but it appears this is really a Logos problem rather than an issue with the tablet.

I have confirmed that in other programs, I have no problem selecting text with the stylus.

I have completely turned off both "flicks" and 1-touch panning.

When I use an external mouse to select text, I am able to do so. When I use the stylus to do the same thing, it assumes I am trying to pan.

David Rudel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468228#Comment_468228

Well, I bought a win8 tablet, a HP Spectre, in the hopes that having a computer built for a touch-enabled operating system would solve this problem.

Moderately good news, after my original post, I lost even further touch screen capability... to the point where I could not even reliably highly items in 1-column mode either. This appears not to be a problem for the win8 machine. So far, it seems I can highlight using touch screen in 1-column mode.

Bad news: I still cannot select text using touch screen in scroll [Columns = None] mode. Logos should fix this, allowing either a gesture to trigger selection of text or a toggle. I recognize that lots of people like having the drag-and-scroll functionality, but if you are trying to select a large chunk of text, there is currently no way to do it using a touch screen short of changing the font to super-tiny to get the text to fit all on one page, and then switching to 1-column view to allow highlighting of text.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/552947#Comment_552947

David ... the first question before 'Logos should fix ...' is whether your experience with W8 is a common one (so therefore a Logos interface issue). In the W7 situation above, the issue was driver-specific ... mine worked .... yours unfortunately didn't.

I do know stylus and touch interfaces are very much non-generic. The tip of the stylus can define which driver is selected in an instant in time.

On my iPad, I have a $100 stylus coming in that will work only on 2 of my apps, and I'll likely order another $90 one for several other apps.

David Rudel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/552957#Comment_552957

Denise, I've seen multiple other people complaining they cannot select text [more than one word at a time] using the touch screen:

Yoga 11S

http://community.logos.com/forums/t/71300.aspx

Unspecified:

http://community.logos.com/forums/p/75184/552950.aspx

http://community.logos.com/forums/t/67846.aspx

Acer

http://community.logos.com/forums/t/63554.aspx [see David Record's post several posts down]