Catholics by Country / Percent

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edited November 20 in English Forum

Even if one is not Catholic, this season's selection process is certainly interesting to follow, and of course all over the news. This graphic came from CNN. I was surprised on Mexico / Brazil.

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  • Ken McGuire
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    This is my favorite graphic...

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  • DMB
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    VERY interesting! Thank you.  Tagle seems to show up a lot though he's young. I've no idea of the significance of all of these!

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  • Robert Wazlavek
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    Been to Mexico a few times.  Not surprised.  We were always told (and found to be true ourselves) the country was way predominantly Catholic.

  • Bruce Dunning
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    I knew Brazil had a high concentration of Catholics but I didn't realize that it was #1.

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  • Rosie Perera
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    This was an interesting chart I saw recently. The shift has been quite dramatic:

    Source: "The Global Catholic Population," Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life, Feb 13, 2013

  • Lynden O. Williams
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    Europe which was once the cradle for Christianity, is fast becoming a mission field. Interesting.

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  • DMB
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    Actually, looking at Rosie's graphs, the numbers have much to do with relative demographics (children per couple). North America is still holding its own as a percent, even with a lower birth rate (though it might include Mexico).

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  • MJ. Smith
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    Europe which was once the cradle for Christianity, is fast becoming a mission field. Interesting.

    While church attendance is certainly down in Europe, one should look at the first chart in this thread in relationship to this question.

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  • Lynden O. Williams
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    Thanks MJ. The numbers are small, but the percentage is high

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  • Matthew C Jones
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    Europe which was once the cradle for Christianity, is fast becoming a mission field. Interesting.

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  • MJ. Smith
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    Old news (2008) but interesting:

    Islam overtakes Catholicism in number of adherents

    VATICAN CITY — Islam has overtaken Roman Catholicism as the biggest single religious denomination in the world, the Vatican said on Sunday.

    Monsignor Vittorio Formenti, who compiled the Vatican's 2008 yearbook of statistics, said Muslims made up 19.2 percent of the world's population and Catholics 17.4 percent.

    "For the first time in history we are no longer at the top: the Muslims have overtaken us," Formenti told the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano, saying the data referred to 2006.

    He said that if all Christian groups were considered, including Orthodox, Anglicans and Protestants, Christians made up 33 percent of the world's population, or about two billion people. The Vatican recently put the number of Catholics in the world at 1.13 billion. It did not provide a figure for Muslims, generally estimated to be around 1.3 billion.

    Formenti said that while the percentage of Catholics in the the world's population was fairly stable, the percentage of Muslims was growing because of higher birth rates. He said the data on Muslim populations had been compiled by individual countries and reported by the United Nations. The Vatican, he said, could only vouch for its own statistics.

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  • Lynden O. Williams
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    Bob or Dan Pritchet I would like to see the percentages of Logos users by country and denomination.

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  • MJ. Smith
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  • Bruce Dunning
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    MJ. Smith said:

    What is the source of this chart? I've never heard Canada as being identified as "Catholic Christianity". Years ago it was true of Quebec but certainly I don't think it is generally true of Canada. If anything Canada is becoming more secular than anything.

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  • Rosie Perera
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    Since we're posting interesting maps of a religious nature, how about these maps of the U.S. colored according to how often the Seven Deadly Sins are committed, courtesy of geographers from Kansas State University:

    More info: http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/mar/26/one-nation-seven-sins/ 

  • DMB
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    Whew. Our county (almost) dodged all 7 deadly sins! I thought Utah was similar but one deadly sin did them in.

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  • Rosie Perera
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    MJ. Smith said:

    What is the source of this chart? I've never heard Canada as being identified as "Catholic Christianity". Years ago it was true of Quebec but certainly I don't think it is generally true of Canada. If anything Canada is becoming more secular than anything.

    Bruce, it looks like it comes from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups (scroll to bottom of page). If you click on the small image on that page to enlarge it, you can see the accompanying notes which explain "This map shows the religion practiced by the majority of religious persons in the states of the world. It does not depict non-religious populations." So all it's saying is that of all the people in Canada who report having any religion at all, Christianity is the most prevalent. Yes, the Catholics in Canada are mostly concentrated in Quebec, but Quebec has a higher population than all the other provinces except adjacent Ontario, and they account for half the Catholics in Canada.

    This table from Statistics Canada shows the breakdown by province: http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/demo30a-eng.htm (click on different provinces in the left sidebar to see other columns). Even though Canada is becoming more secular, still nearly 44% of the population reported on the census that they're Catholic (by far the largest percentage of any religious affiliation), and 29% Protestant. Much smaller for the minority religions (2% Muslim, 1% Jewish, etc.), and only 16.5% reported no religious affiliation at all. Those stats are somewhat outdated, from 2001; I think I recall that the question about religion was not asked on the 2011 census. So there's likely been a shift toward more "None of the above" adherents than 12 years ago. There are probably a growing number of Pastafarians, too.

  • MJ. Smith
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  • Bruce Dunning
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    MJ and Rosie...Thanks for the source work. I can see how it was derived but I also think that Canada has drastically changed in the last 12 years since the stats were gathered. I also think that there are a huge number of people when asked who may identify themselves as Catholic but would seldom ever even go to church.

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  • Lynden O. Williams
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    Bruce Dunning said: I also think that there are a huge number of people when asked who may identify themselves as Catholic but would seldom ever even go to church.

    I thought this problem only existed in the West Indies among Adventist.

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  • MJ. Smith
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    I also think that there are a huge number of people when asked who may identify themselves as Catholic but would seldom ever even go to church.

    That may well be true but, as you note, they still consider themselves Catholic. from http://cara.georgetown.edu/CARAServices/requestedchurchstats.html what I believe to be American statistics. Note there is no category for those who cannot get to Mass i.e. some rural areas and the homebound.

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  • MJ. Smith
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    Another old but interesting information: http://www.gallup.com/poll/117382/church-going-among-catholics-slides-tie-protestants.aspx



    April 9, 2009

    Churchgoing Among U.S. Catholics Slides to Tie Protestants

    However, long-term decline may have leveled off in past decade

    by Lydia Saad


    PRINCETON, NJ -- According to Gallup Poll trends on church attendance among American Christians, weekly attendance among Protestants has been fairly steady over the past six decades, averaging 42% in 1955 versus 45% in the middle of the current decade. However, attendance among Roman Catholics dropped from 75% to 45% over the same period.

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    Most of the decline in church attendance among American Catholics occurred in the earlier decades, between 1955 and 1975; however, it continued at a rate of four percentage points a decade through the mid-1990s, and church attendance has since leveled off at 45%.

    The Gallup Poll's rich archives of religious preference and church attendance data have been mined in time to provide a detailed picture of church attendance trends among U.S. Christians heading into Easter Sunday. Multiple surveys were combined for each decade starting with the 1950s, using Gallup religion surveys conducted closest to the middle of the decade. This provides ample sample size to examine the church attendance patterns of Protestants and Catholics, and of various age categories within those religious groups.

    On the basis of these 10-year snapshots of church attendance, the percentage of Catholics saying they went to church in the past week is essentially unchanged between 1995 and today. That's an extremely important finding given the upheaval in the U.S. Roman Catholic Church caused by the sexual abuse scandals that erupted earlier this decade. Gallup polling in 2002 and 2003 found a decline in the percentages of Catholics saying they had attended church in the past week; however, attendance rebounded by the end of 2003 and has since remained on par with its pre-scandal level of about 45%.

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    Young Catholics Drop Out of Church by the 1970s

    Beyond the divergent attendance trends of Protestants and Catholics, the historical data reveal distinct generational patterns in church attendance within each Christian faith.

    In 1955, adult Catholics of all ages attended church at similar rates, with between 73% and 77% saying they attended in the past week. By the mid-1960s, weekly attendance of young Catholics (those 21 to 29 years of age) started to wane, falling to 56%, while attendance among other age groups dropped only slightly, to around 70%. By the mid-1970s, only 35% of Catholics in their 20s said they had attended in the past week, but attendance was also starting to fall among those in their 30s, 40s, and 50s.

    Attendance for most of the groups continued to fall from the 1970s to the 1990s. However, over the past decade it has generally stabilized, particularly among Catholics in their 20s and 30s.

    Across this entire period, attendance among Catholics aged 60 and older has dropped from 73% to 58%.

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    Protestant Attendance Steady Among Most Age Groups

    The picture in attendance by age is entirely different among Protestants. Apart from a temporary dip in weekly church attendance among 21- to 29-year-old Protestants in the 1960s and 1970s, attendance has stayed the same or increased among all the age groups. It even rebounded among young Protestants in the 1980s, and is now close to 1950s levels.

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    Of course, the "Protestant" moniker encompasses many distinct religious denominations, some of which have reportedly experienced high growth in membership over the past few decades, while others have been in decline. The figures reported here represent averages for all Protestant faiths.

    Bottom Line

    The increasingly spare attendance at regular mass has been of considerable concern to the Catholic Church in the United States for some time. Theologians and other observers have variously offered the cultural upheaval of the 1960s, changes to the church brought about in the 1960s by the Second Vatican Council, and national publicity in 2002 over sexual abuse lawsuits against Catholic priests as possible contributors to the trend.

    Whatever the causes, it is clear that U.S. Catholics' once-nearly uniform obedience to their church's requirement of weekly mass attendance has faded, and Catholics are now no different from Protestants in their likelihood to attend church. This has occurred among Catholics of all age categories, but is most pronounced among those under 60. The good news for the Catholic Church is that the drop in attendance seems to have slowed or abated altogether in the last decade, spanning a most difficult period for the church around 2002, when attendance did suffer temporarily.

    U.S. Protestant church attendance has also been steady over the past decade, but is actually higher now than it was in the 1970s and 1980s, in part the result of a resurgence of regular attendance among young adults.

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  • Unix
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    Super Tramp, unmarried young Christian women in Sweden right now don't seem to be looking for Christian partners so they will probably not raise their future children Christian:

    It only takes one generation, if Christians do not pass the faith on:

    Europe which was once the cradle for Christianity, is fast becoming a mission field. Interesting.


    MJ., right now I recognize myself in those statistics for my generation: "Aside from weddings and funerals, about how often do you attend Mass?". I'm born in the end of 1981. But I've been thinking of ways to attend more often, such as buying a car, it's just that parking would cost somewhat much as I live in city of two million inhabitants (12 miles = 20 kilometers from the centre but there's few Churches around here) and I'm somewhat poor, plus I would not be able to pay the whole cost of purchasing the car, so only possible if my dad would help and he requires that I can get a parking spot ...
    (I'm not a member of any Church.)

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  • Drago
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    By population, drop down, low crime rates and war affairs (attacking other countries) Croatia will be No1.