I would check out all the reviews.  This link only takes you to a very small number of 1 star reviews.  Most of the reviews are 4 or 5 stars.  Incidentally, I cannot agree with any of these 1 star reviews from my personal experience.

Hi Darren,

I have not performed a run down test, but from my experience, I am probably getting around 6 hours.  Following a full charge, the Windows battery meter tells me I have over 8 hours, but I'm not sure I believe that!  My main use is Logos Bible study and reading (in the lazy boy!), and it is certainly fine for that.

Best,

Steve

I am wondering if anyone is using Logos 5 on a Windows 8  "budget" Tablet effectively?  I like what Steve says about the ATIV but its way too expensive.

Anyone else running the full Logos 5 on a tablet say under $600 - with a pen to be used for highlighting (ideally)?

Thanks Bill.  I first saw the machine you mentioned and it sparked my hope that Logos 5 would run well on it or something similar to it.

I know there are many places where Steve's machine is reviewed online but I just found this one:
http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsung-ativ-smart-pc-pro_Tablet_review

There is a good review of the Samsung Ativ Smart PC Pro W700T on Engadget:

http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/21/samsung-ativ-smart-pc-pro-review/

This is the Core i5, 4GB, 11.6inch. HD screen, 128GB RAM model.

Just a comment I think supported by many: don't buy an Atom based, 2GB Win8 tablet if you want to run Logos 5. Even with a correctly powered Win8 tablet, Logos 5 in the desktop mode on the smaller screen may not be to everyone's liking - the fully feature Win8 version will be the Logos to fully take advantage of the new operating system and hardware.

Hope this helps someone,

Richard.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4505-3121_7-35511640.html?autoplay=true

Not quite there yet.

While the MS Surface kickstand is useful for holding the tablet in a stable position while using it with the attached keyboard, I found the angle to be too far forward to facillitate using the screen in touch mode (fine for view mode).  If the angle could be varied we might get the best of both worlds (touch and keyboard).  There are two types of keyboard available for the MS Surface, I found the touch cover required enough additional effort to get each key to operate (compared to a conventional keyboard) that it significantly slowed the way I type and constantly required proof reading to make sure all the letters had registerd. Have not found anywhere locally with a more conventional type cover in stock yet, so have yet to have the opportunity to try that one.  Also have not yet found anywhere with a Pro with 128GB Ram in stock and the 64GB model has next to useless amount of memory left straight out of the box, so seems pointless trying that with Logos 5 and other applications let alone any significant amount of books, data, photos or music.

Perhaps a different keyboard for the Samsung, with perhaps even an additional battery in it to help prolong usability and stabilize the screen part may help sway me towards a Samsung.  Not convinced either is quite there yet.  Maybe it is still a case of needing to wait until we get a little more user experience feedback incorporated and maybe even move to a 256GB standard and a more reasonable price (under $1000 WITH all the add ons like video adapters, keyboards and stylus). As they say, wait three months and the whole picture will likely have changed.

Does it come with a pen?

I tried the Surface Pro and the volume rocker at 100% couldnt be heard.  The machine heats up easily and is too heavy for me.  I couldnt test Logos 5 on it.  Too pricey for me too.

Where do you buy this in the US?  Is it available yet?  What does it cost?

too rich for my blood.  I looked around the internet and found the price you said as well.

my wife would divorce me if I paid that price for a piece of technology.

I wonder if its too ridiculous a prayer to ask that Logos make a touch friendly full function app for Windows 8 and then tell us what budget friendly hardware it runs on?

Lord here my (silly) prayer. 

May YOU Father be glorified forevermore.

amen

We seem to be seeing today a significant price drop in the 250GB SSD (by Samsung and by OCZ).  Hopefully this will quickly translate into the broad availability of 250GB tablets running Windows 8 Pro so that the restrictions of much smaller SSDs (with a full Windows Operating system and recovery partition taking most of the space) can be finally eliminated.

Shayne,

I would not worry about the 4GB. I too had my concerns, but the Ativ is super quick and slick running every app I threw at it - not many agreed - but enough: Logos 5, Google Chrome, OpenOffice, OliveTree Bible. I had no problems whatsoever. I did not keep the machine long enough to determine if the 128GB was large enough, but it does have an SD slot for additional storage. 

It seems from other posts that I might have received an earlier version or at least a different one from the US version in that mine was top heavy and touching the screen would make it unstable. I believe Steve Charles has given the specs of one that is better balanced (sorry Steve if it was another poster). Logos worked a dream on it with the stylus input. 

Yes, I did return it and have replaced it with a MacBook Air 11.6inch - and totally love it. My first Mac - and for me - it is the best Logos study tool I know of. But that is just my preference. 

Incidentally, there are a number of articles for the MacBook Air on how to increase disc space, e.g. removing the foreign language fonts from the o/s save 1.9GB and removing the printer drivers for printers that you will not use, removes another 1 or 2 GB. You might want to research that for the Ativ.

God Bless,

Richard. 

Thanks Richard & Steve. I appreciate the feedback. I'm feeling much more confident with the decision. Hopefully, I will receive the unit tomorrow (along w/ 64GB SD Card, an extra full size pen, and case). Can't wait to play with it! I think it might be a near perfect Logos device.

Looks like some people have hit little glitches trying to remove recovery partition. I will likely leave it and if all goes as well as I expect, and if I can pop the back easy enough without breaking it, I will likely go ahead and order the 256 GB drive. (How much you wanna bet that they'll release a 8GB RAM, 256 GB SSD version within next month or two?)

Hm, hadn't got around to thinking about putting Photoshop and Lightroom on it. It might make a good platform for touching up RAW camera files when away from the desktop. Might even be easier, interacting directly with the image.

Thanks again for all the info. Looking forward to laying hands on it tomorrow.

How is it as an ereader and can you highlight in it easily?  I sure wish I would have one.

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors Tablet is resonating in my head now.[:)]

Richard,

That ASUS tablet you mentioned that runs Win8, is it the Taichi model?

Thanks.

-Sean

http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=44269

Hey Steve,

Just wanted to drop back in on this thread and say THANKS! I'm still getting to know this tablet, but I think it was a great buy. I was originally set on the Dell XPS 12 because I thought I needed something beefier, but I was wrong. This tablet handles Logos very well; I've observed very few page faults - ie. no excessive swap usage. When it does fault and need to page memory, the speed of the ssd negates most of the penalty usually seen when swapping. She's got plenty of speed. Also weighs quite a bit less than the Dell tablet I was looking at, though still a little on the heavy side. Screen is lovely, and the battery life is adequate (a keyboard dock with extra battery would be great). A little large in the hands which is good on the eyes, but takes a bit to get used to wielding it. The pen that comes with it is ok, but I really like the full size pen purchased separately. Picked up a generic case, hoping something better will come along soon.

It would be the perfect portable platform for the full Logos app if they could make it a bit more touch friendly, even if it's just a wee bit here and there along the way.

Overall, very very happy with it. Appreciate all the experience and info you've shared.

Thank you,

Randy

I have just purchased and test driven THE case for the Samsung Smart PC Pro 700T.  It's the IVSO® Slim-BOOK Stand Cover Case for Samsung ATIV Smart PC Pro XE700T 11.6-Inch Tablet available from Amazon.  It's $16.95 with free shipping.  It fits the tablet perfectly (finally!), and you can also remove the stylus while the tablet is in the case (unlike most others).  This is the one ...

Joshua Lieder said:

Every time I have touched or held an MS Surface Pro its more than hot on my hand and in my hands.

Not going to pay 900 or more for a hot brick...nope!

Joshua,

I realize I have responded to a number of your posts about tablets, but I have to jump in on this post in particular. When I first looked at the Surface Pro in the stores, I thought it was way too hot. I dismissed it out of hand. However, after reading up on the heat issue online, I learned that many users said the heat became acceptable and battery life went up when you adjusted the advance power settings. So, I went back to the store to see if I could experience what these users said. When I adjusted the advance power settings on the Surface Pro in the store to about 30% brightness (still plenty bright) and throttled down the CPU speed to about 30%, I was pleasantly surprised that at after giving it a couple of minutes to cool down the Surface Pro's heat was at an acceptable level for me. And, the battery life increased. And, the performance was not affected at all.

So, the moral of this story is that when you look at the Surface Pro in the stores realize that they have them cranked up to operate at the highest brightness levels and CPU speed. 

These are not required for real use and are certainly not required for Logos to run well.

James I give the Surface Pro 1 star out of 5 for being able to turn on.[:)]

I absolutely love my Sony Vaio Duo 11 - it's a tablet/laptop hybrid with an Intel core i7-3537u 2.5GHz, 8g ram and 256gb SSD.  It comes with a digitizer pen.  I chose the Duo 11 over other flip style hybrids due to it's stability in an upright position.

Sony now has a Vaio 13 out that uses an Intel 4th gen chip.

Logos 5 works like a dream on this machine.  No lag time and everything is always available, unlike using an ipad.

Vic

Russ, I feel for you.  You are brave to dive into Windows 8.1 with so little ram too.

Noone at Logos really seems to care about developing touch Windows 8.1 Tablet capability...thats how it seems to me  [:'(]