Question about revised WBC volumes

Does anyone know how significantly the content has changed in the revised editions of WBC volumes: specifically Word Biblical Commentary, Volume 19: Psalms 1-50 (Revised) and Word Biblical Commentary, vol. 32: Micah–Malachi (Revised) and Word Biblical Commentary, Volume 24: Isaiah 1-33 (Revised Edition) and Word Biblical Commentary, Volume 25: Isaiah 34-66 (Revised Edition)? I have all the original volumes of these and don't particularly want to buy them again if it isn't worth it.

Also, if you have bought any of the revised WBC volumes, did they replace existing volumes you had (i.e., is the resource ID the same, or did they assign it a new resource ID so you could keep the old one too)?

I find that I do have some of the revised volumes (vols 6A, 21 and 43), though I have no record in my Orders page of ever having ordered them. So they must have come to me automatically, no? Or maybe it's because the revised versions of those volumes were already out when I bought WBC (in 2007) and these others have come along more recently.

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DMB

Well, I'm going to look pretty dumb, but the ones you already have were issued 2006 and earlier; the one you don't have is a pre-pub (at least per my library and looking at the product pages). I couldn't see the difference on the pre-pub but I suspect it's connected to DSS information etc.

I'm guessing I've completely missed your point (and thus another major clue concerning my intelligence!).

Kenneth Neighoff

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/360603#Comment_360603

The only revised ones I have are Psalms101-150, and Philippians.

I believe they replaced the original ones.

I have not bought the ones you listed above.

Mike Childs

I have the revised and the old commentaries in WBC. I have not noticed anything significant in the revisions, and I use WBC regularly. Then again, I haven't done a through search to detect differences.

SteveF

Does anyone know how significantly the content has changed in the revised editions of WBC volumes: specifically Word Biblical Commentary, Volume 19: Psalms 1-50 (Revised)

I have the one below and this snippet comes from the info pane. As far as I can tell they ONLY added a new introduction to this one--an introduction that tries to interact with the later, nrewer released competing Psalms volumes etc. I do not know how the Micah WBC revisions work. [see BOLDED, Italized part of quote below.]

Word Biblical Commentary, Volume 19: Psalms 1–50 (Revised Edition) by Craigie, Peter C.,Tate, Marvin E.

Peter Craigie demonstrates in this commentary that the biblical psalms express “the most profound of human feelings and insights—prayer, praise, liturgy, wisdom and lament.” Through careful analysis of language and form, he communicates both the emotional and theological impact of the psalms as originally experienced by the people of Israel at public worship and in private devotions.

Professor Craigie’s translations and interpretations of each of the first fifty psalms apply insights into the Hebrew language and Israel’s literature drawn from Ugaritic texts. He provides a careful and critical analysis of various controversial proposals based on these sources for understanding the early substance and later form of the Psalter.

This revision of WBC 19 by Marvin Tate preserves all of Professor Craigie’s original exposition and augments it with an extensive supplement that updates the bibliographies and documents the explosive growth in Psalm studies in the last two decades of the

Craigie, Peter C., Psalms 1–50, 2nd ed., Nashville, TN, Nelson Reference & Electronic, Word Biblical Commentary, 19, 2004

ISAIAH INFORMATIION

Vol 1. Dr. Watts has revisited this work he produced almost twenty years ago, with a view to updating it in light of current scholarship. He continues to hold to the unity of Isaiah, rather than ascribing it to two or three composers or schools.

Vol 2. Repeats the above info. Then adds a note that Prof Watt continues to focus on central figure of Yahweh,...examines changing role of Israel, Jerusalem, Assyria, Babylon, and Persia...he examines language, form theological content, and scriptural parallels of the book.

Martin Folley

Logos has recently adapted some of their product pages to give a custom price based on what you already own (but not yet displaying what would be 'new to you')

After considerable checking (and eventually the help of Andrew in Sales) it comes down to the two revised editions of Isaiah. Since I already have the earlier versions in Logos, could I re-invigorate Rosie's original question? ... does anybody know if there was significant difference between the original and revised versions?

Thanks.

Paul-C

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/469649#Comment_469649

Hi Martin. I bought the complete WBC set at the start of this year and received both updated versions of the Isaiah volumes.

Is there a particular verse from Isaiah you'd like me to cut and paste and post for comparative purposes?

James C.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/469652#Comment_469652

I was able to keep both the old and the revised of the Psalms and Isaiah. I don't have the revised Micah.

James C.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/469656#Comment_469656

Here are a few screen shots to help.

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/469661#Comment_469661

I asked this very question a number of months ago when the new ones came on Pre-pub. I wasn't sure so I called customer service and I was assured that there were lots of differences but I never received any specifics.

What I wish in this day of electronic resources that there was a special upgrade price when you are already licensed for the same resource rather than having to pay the same price as someone who has never bought them before. To me this only makes sense and making an owner pay twice penalizes owners compared to new buyers. Unfortunately this is a common way of "rewarding loyalty" in many sectors.

Martin Folley

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/469661#Comment_469661

Thank you James. That is very useful.

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/469666#Comment_469666

What I wish in this day of electronic resources that there was a special upgrade price when you are already licensed for the same resource rather than having to pay the same price as someone who has never bought them before. To me this only makes sense and making an owner pay twice penalizes owners compared to new buyers. Unfortunately this is a common way of "rewarding loyalty" in many sectors.

My sentiments exactly! I wonder why they sold me a "defective" commentary that now needs correcting, and they expect me to pay again to fix it. Maybe they should use the excuse the Bible translators use to market a new version; "The language has evolved so much the commentary on Micah is outdated again." or "The latest scholarship has rendered the last decade's scholarship obsolete." [N] Minor revisions should be free.

Martin Folley

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/469666#Comment_469666

What I wish in this day of electronic resources that there was a special upgrade price when you are already licensed for the same resource rather than having to pay the same price as someone who has never bought them before. To me this only makes sense and making an owner pay twice penalizes owners compared to new buyers. Unfortunately this is a common way of "rewarding loyalty" in many sectors.

I know that it is always a personal decision as to the value of an upgrade like this.

In my case the upgrade (addition) of the two Isaiah volumes to the revised will cost $20.34 ... or $10.17 per resource. Acutally the $599/59 volumes value is almost identical, $10.15 per volume ... so I seem to be paying about 2 cents more per volume for the upgrade!; with no account that I already have 90% (estimated.) of the contents already.

Still, it is nice that the they have effectively split the set up like this ... to buy volume 25 on its own from Logos would be a staggering $49.99 on its own.

I'm not sure about the upgrade yet .. I will need to reflect on James's excellent screen shots for a while.

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/469699#Comment_469699

What I wish in this day of electronic resources that there was a special upgrade price when you are already licensed for the same resource rather than having to pay the same price as someone who has never bought them before. To me this only makes sense and making an owner pay twice penalizes owners compared to new buyers. Unfortunately this is a common way of "rewarding loyalty" in many sectors.

My sentiments exactly! I wonder why they sold me a "defective" commentary that now needs correcting, and they expect me to pay again to fix it. Maybe they should use the excuse the Bible translators use to market a new version; "The language has evolved so much the commentary on Micah is outdated again." or "The latest scholarship has rendered the last decade's scholarship obsolete." Minor revisions should be free.

I can understand the thinking of Publishers when they produce paper versions. The cost associated with an upgrade in this instance is significant. But I believe Logos needs to help Publishers understand that this should be different in the digital world. The cost for a Publisher to upgrade a digital version is much smaller compared to a paper version and the price should reflect that. It would be nice for a Logos employee to help us better understand this and perhaps encourage us with news that the future might be different.

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/469706#Comment_469706

I can understand the thinking of Publishers when they produce paper versions. The cost associated with an upgrade in this instance is significant. But I believe Logos needs to help Publishers understand that this should be different in the digital world. The cost for a Publisher to upgrade a digital version is much smaller compared to a paper version and the price should reflect that. It would be nice for a Logos employee to help us better understand this and perhaps encourage us with news that the future might be different.

I was myopically thinking only of the digital version. [H] I appreciate your help in adjusting my perspective & attitude. Thanks. I now feel better about my "outdated" WBC.