Words of YHWH in Red?
Is there anyway to visually filter all the words spoken by YHWH, beginning from Gen 1:3?
To achieve the same effect as switching "Use Red Letter" on/off in Program Settings to mark the words of Christ in red, except that it's the words of YHWH now?
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I don't think so. Here is an option you can do. This idea has been tossed around before. If you could do it, it would be a drain on your computer while it loaded it up. This doesn't get every reference. Click on to enlarge.
"For the kingdom of God does not consist in words but in power"
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Hmmm ... Can see why it won't catch every reference. As well as why this may nevertheless be the next best workaround.
Thanks, Jerry.
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Theophilus said:
Is there anyway to visually filter all the words spoken by YHWH, beginning from Gen 1:3?
You can filter His words if you love Hebrew and have Andersen-Forbes Analyzed Text. The filter can be divided into many types:
And the Bible Search query will look like:-
<AndersenForbesGenre = Divine Soliloquy>
<AndersenForbesGenre = Divine Oracle>
<AndersenForbesGenre = Divine Instruction>
<AndersenForbesGenre = Divine Blessing>
<AndersenForbesGenre = Divine Promise>etc.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Thanks Dave! This *** REALLY *** takes things to the next level (for me, at least) !
Yes, I have AFAT, and managed to perform the search successfully. But it seems that this only works when searching the AFAT, not any other Bible. Trouble is I don't read Hebrew.
Is there anyway that I can search AFAT, and map the results (visual filter, etc.) to an English Bible, or even an interlinear? Thanks again.
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Theophilus said:
Is there anyway that I can search AFAT, and map the results (visual filter, etc.) to an English Bible
You can construct a Passage List for each type of Divine speech but then you have to highlight the words using a Morph Search like:-
so it covers all parts of speech for the Hebrew morphology in a Reverse Interlinear. Use the Passage List instead of "All Passages".
Note that some words of a verse may not be divine speech.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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OK ... Passage List done. Pretty neat. Thanks, Dave.
But is there any way to search for "all text enclosed within inverted commas" within the Passage List, instead of the Morph Search?
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Jerry, this is a separate matter from the original post, but ...
I noticed from your screenshot that you have a "elo" superscripted beside every occurrence of the word "God". I presume that indicates "Elohim", and that you did that by way of visual filtering. (I'm guessing you have the other Divine Names of God superscripted accordingly as well).
I'm just learning how to use Visual Filters, and so far, I haven't seen superscripting as a formatting option in the Visual Filters. So, how did you do that?
Thanks.
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Hi Theophilus.
Superscripts are a formatting option in highlights. The highlights are then used by the visual filter.
Hope this helps
Geaham
(sorry, not usiing my pc at the moment so can't provide screenshots)
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Thanks, Graham, for the prompt answer. I'm not sure I understand, though.
I've just checked the highlighting options. They are exactly the same formatting options as visual filters. I don't find superscripting. Is this a new feature on beta versions only? Regret too that I also don't understand how "highlights are then used by the visual filter".
I don't need the answer instantly, but would really appreciate it if someone could give me some step-by-step instructions for visual filter newbies on how to do what Jerry did above with the superscript-formatted visual filters. Or point me to a wiki page that can help me do that. Thanks.
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Hi Theophilus
Have a look at http://wiki.logos.com/Highlighting#Text_Effects. If you scroll down you will see how to create super scripts in highlights (and this isn't a new beta feature it is in the stable release).
Once you have created the highlight you can then use it in your visual filter.
http://wiki.logos.com/Custom_Highlighting$3a_Orig_Lang._$28for_Visual_Filters$29 shows an example of doing this.
Hope this helps
Graham
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Whoa! Did this help?!?! This opened a whole new world for me!
I'll work through it and come back again if/when I encounter more difficulties. There's just so much to learn!
Thanks, Graham. You made my day!
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Excellent. Enjoy!
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Theophilus said:
(I'm guessing you have the other Divine Names of God superscripted accordingly as well)
Yes, here is a screen shot.
"For the kingdom of God does not consist in words but in power"
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Thankful for discussion that provided visual filter modification idea (change font color near some words):
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Thanks, Jerry, Graham & Shining! You've been more than a great help. You've opened my eyes (and my Logos package) to a whole new way of marking up my text! Appreciate all the new ideas (many of which I will shamelessly copy!), and the help with how to implement them.
Thanks too, Dave, for you're help with the question in the original post, which we have since deviated from. [:)]
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Hey Theophilus and Dave,
Were either of you able to find a way to make the words of YHWY red? I'm new to visual filters and some of this post doesn't make sense to me. Dave, I'm not sure what screen you are in with that first screen shot on this thread. I have the ability to choose the Andersen Forbes for visual filters in Hebrew morph, is this the same screen you are in? It looks different than what I come up with in the visual filter tool. Can anyone go through this process with me step by step?
What I would like to do is create a filter with the words of God in the OT blue and words of the father in the NT blue.
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My first post is a Syntax Search in the Hebrew - you may find that on your File menu depending on your base Library package. Construct that search as shown and then create a Passage List (under the Search menu). Then you can create a Visual Filter using a Morph Search that highlights the nouns, verbs, pronouns as per the codes in my following post (@N, @V, @R etc) but you select your Passage List instead of All Passages. See http://wiki.logos.com/Visual_Filter for more information.
For Syntax Search see http://wiki.logos.com/Setting_up_a_Syntax_Search
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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You need to upgrade to Original Languages (OL) or Scholar's. See http://www.logos.com/comparison
Note that if you want to go further with Original Language studies it is best to go for Scholar's as OL is dead-end for upgrades (but see what the Upgrade button tells you).
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Has anyone actually been able to complete the monumental task of highlighting the words of YHWH? If so I think everyone would really appreciate getting the highlighting doc from you now that we can share docs in L5. I know I would.. hint hint..
Thanks so much for anybody who has worked so hard on this and is willing to share!!!
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Liam Walsh said:
I don't think the "Anderson Forbes Morphology" is available any more in L5.
It is, e.g in logosres:afheb10;art=pref;off=1484
Have joy in the Lord!
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Liam Walsh said:
Has anyone actually been able to complete the monumental task of highlighting the words of YHWH? If so I think everyone would really appreciate getting the highlighting doc from you now that we can share docs in L5. I know I would.. hint hint..
Wiki has => http://wiki.logos.com/Extended_Tips_for_Highlighting_and_Visual_Filters#Examples_of_visual_filters that includes link to FaithLife group => Logos Visual Filters
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Ok! I found how to do this with the help of Fredc (in this thread) & Clause Search to catch every (as far as I know) reference!!! Instead of only speech, which I found was more complicated (but still possible), I simply included every verb that God does in all of Scripture (this catches both actions and speech) and was able to make separate highlights for Jesus, God the Father, and the Holy Spirit! So instead of a red letter version, I have a bold for God in general (Old Testament), dark red for God the Father, bright red for Jesus, and orange for the Holy Spirit. If anyone else is interested in this, I did it by doing a separate clause search for each member of the Trinity in both Old & New Testaments (ie. OT: subject:God verb:any, subject:the angel of the lord verb:any, subject:Holy Spirit verb:any; NT: subject:God the Father verb:any, subject:Jesus verb:any, subject:Holy Spirit verb:any) and then exported the findings to a separate passage lists respectively for each member of the Trinity in each Testament. Then, using each passage list (for each person of the Godhead in each Testament), set up a visual filter for each person of the Trinity for both Old and New Testaments, and on each visual filter (VF for Jesus in the NT for example) set every possible type of morph code to the highlight style that I wanted for each individual person of the Godhead (similar to what was posted earlier on this thread).
This is how it turned out:
Dark red is the Father, Orange the Holy Spirit, and the bright red toward the bottom of the pic is Jesus' actions. In the OT I have bold as well for God in general, and bright red for the Angel of the Lord (as Jesus). The Holy Spirit's actions work well in the OT as well! I'm amazed at the results here! Hope this helps someone do the same!
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