Moody titles will be going away
Sometime in the very near future, all Moody titles not in the public domain will be removed from Logos.com and will not be available for purchase.
This could happen as early as today.
We do not know when or if they will be coming back.
We apologize for any inconvenience.
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The Publisher=Moody parameter is very helpful, but is there a way to use the url parameters to exclude certain things? E.g. I already have all the MacArthur titles I need, and his individual commentaries clutter the list. Is there an easy way to do Moody but not MacArthur?
You can do "Moody books that I don't have already" by adding &unlocked=no to the end of the url. You can add that to the end of any search url to exclude books you already own.
I wish there were a way to do this in the UI of the website (they were going to add it), but it's not there yet. However it's cool that you can do it manually in the meantime.
You can do "Moody books that I don't have already" by adding &unlocked=no to the end of the url. You can add that to the end of any search url to exclude books you already own.
I wish there were a way to do this in the UI of the website (they were going to add it), but it's not there yet. However it's cool that you can do it manually in the meantime.
That is very cool Rosie. How did you discover that? I will have to save that one for future searches. I totally agree with you that it would be great if this were a feature on the website.
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The Publisher=Moody parameter is very helpful, but is there a way to use the url parameters to exclude certain things? E.g. I already have all the MacArthur titles I need, and his individual commentaries clutter the list. Is there an easy way to do Moody but not MacArthur?
You can do "Moody books that I don't have already" by adding &unlocked=no to the end of the url. You can add that to the end of any search url to exclude books you already own.
I wish there were a way to do this in the UI of the website (they were going to add it), but it's not there yet. However it's cool that you can do it manually in the meantime.
Thanks Rosie, that's a step in the right direction. There are also a couple of other authors of whom I don't own any resources that I'd still like to filter out (just didn't want to name any names). But your method brings it down to four 60-item pages, which is reasonable.
Thanks Rosie, that's a step in the right direction. There are also a couple of other authors of whom I don't own any resources that I'd still like to filter out (just didn't want to name any names).
Ah, it turns out you can filter out authors. Search for publisher:moody -author:macarthur
Subtract any other authors you want to omit using that minus sign syntax (no space between the minus and "author" nor around the colons).
Then you can add the &unlocked=no parameter manually to the end of the URL that gets generated from that search.
"&unlocked=no"
I can't get this search string to work. Can you give me an exact example to try? Thanks
Try this URL exactly as it is:
http://www.logos.com/products/search?q=publisher%3amoody&unlocked=no
Sometime in the very near future, all Moody titles not in the public domain will be removed from Logos.com and will not be available for purchase.
This could happen as early as today.
We do not know when or if they will be coming back.
We apologize for any inconvenience.
That is really too bad, but thank you for the heads up. There were a few titles in there I'd been wanting to get eventually, and I guess now = eventually.
Sometime in the very near future, all Moody titles not in the public domain will be removed from Logos.com and will not be available for purchase.
This could happen as early as today.
We do not know when or if they will be coming back.
We apologize for any inconvenience.
Thanks for the heads up. I have all the moody titles but was wondering if this also applies to Vyrso Moody titles. Is Moody Vyrso titles also affected?
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What if we already purchased them? Will we still have access please?
You won't ever lose resources you have already purchased. You just won't be able to buy new ones from Moody.
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Any Moody's must-have titles before it's too late?
I had the same question and would love to hear what people recommend.
I already went through picking out two books that I only had paper versions but eventually wanted digital copies because I consider both of these classics:
http://www.logos.com/product/7443/living-by-the-book-the-art-and-science-of-reading-the-bible
http://www.logos.com/product/7732/spiritual-leadership-principles-of-excellence-for-every-believer
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Any Moody's must-have titles before it's too late?
Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament (Robert Laird Harris, Gleason L. Archer Jr., Bruce K. Waltke) - "monumental reference work"; one of the co-authors (in bold) was a former professor of mine who is a meticulous scholar and deeply prayerful man; I don't use this as often as some of the other lexicons, but it's one I would want to snap up if I didn't have it already
And don't forget Vyrso. I just checked there and found some interesting nuggets published by Moody.
https://vyrso.com/products/search?q=publisher%3Amoody
Here one is a great autobiography that I owned already but would like to recommend to others who might have overlooked it. I know the author (he attends my parents' church) and his story of escape from Sudan and return to found a ministry there is dramatic and inspiring.
The Bible or the Axe: One Man's Dramatic Escape from Persecution in the Sudan
Any Moody's must-have titles before it's too late?
Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament
Someone may have already listed it but there are many good books this is by far the best brief lexicon for quick Hebrew study. Everyone should own this.
-Dan
EDIT-PS: I see others mentioned it, it truly is a little good mine. If anyone is not familiar with it, it is generally seen to be the equivalent for Old Testament that Kittel One Volume is for Greek word study. It is designed for the laymen but I would bet for a busy Pastor it would still have great value.
What if we already purchased them? Will we still have access please?
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Yes. If you own the license to these books, you will retain access. We will not take books away that you own.
Hmmm...can I buy multiple copies of a license now, store them and "transfer" them to agreeable parties in the future?
Hmmm...can I buy multiple copies of a license now, store them and "transfer" them to agreeable parties in the future?
I believe you would need to have each license under a different account. This was a practice of a few back in the Libronix days. They would buy several licenses as an "investment" and resell them at a profit. Yep, they sure did. [8-|]
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I went here https://www.logos.com/user/wishlists but dont know how to tell which are the Moody Titles. I want to buy the lower cost ones if there is a chance I may not be able to get them later. Kent...this is very stressful.
This is a classic too...don't miss it everyone.
Sometime in the very near future, all Moody titles not in the public domain will be removed from Logos.com and will not be available for purchase.
This could happen as early as today.
We do not know when or if they will be coming back.
We apologize for any inconvenience.
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Books that I recommend:
Ryrie, Unger, Everyman's Bible Commentary, Wycliffe Bible Commentary and Robert Thomas Greek Exegetical Commentary on Revelation.
http://www.logos.com/products/search?q=Ryrie&Author=Ryrie%2c+Charles+Caldwell
http://www.logos.com/products/search?q=Unger&Author=Unger%2c+Merrill+Frederick
http://www.logos.com/product/419/the-wycliffe-bible-commentary-old-testament
http://www.logos.com/product/418/the-wycliffe-bible-commentary-new-testament
http://www.logos.com/product/5149/everymans-bible-commentary-series
http://www.logos.com/product/1102/theological-wordbook-of-the-old-testament
http://www.logos.com/product/4605/new-testament-greek-syntax-an-illustrated-manual
http://www.logos.com/product/5283/an-exegetical-commentary-revelation
I will not see the loss of MacArthur as a loss...just my personal opinion...in fact, going through all the Moody offerings, the only things I may have purchased in the future that I don't have, are the Intoduction to Old Testament series. I'm hopeful that others can come on board and replace them post haste...maybe Banner of Truth!The loss of John MacArthur will be huge to Logos.
This will be a loss
I will not see the loss of MacArthur as a loss...just my personal opinion...The loss of John MacArthur will be huge to Logos.
Of course, it is always personal opinion as to what resources we buy. I respect John MacArthur, though as a Wesleyan and non-dispensationalist, I disagree with him on many things. In fact, about the only thing he writes that I am interested in is his New Testament Commentaries which I already have. (I think he does a great job on the commentaries, and I am not intimidated by the parts of his theology that I disagree with.) So I don't mean it will be a big loss to me, personally.
I mean that John MacArthur is very popular, and a big seller. The loss of his books will hurt Logos, if it cannot be corrected. It will hurt Logos in relationship to rival software which will continue to carry MacArthur's works. Because I care deeply about Logos' future - as well as my investment in Logos resources - I do indeed think the loss of John MacArthur is huge.
I don't mean to be a conspiracy nut, but is it possible that rival software is trying to get exclusive contracts with publishers of some popular resources in order to squeeze Logos out and increase their market share?
"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley
I don't mean to be a conspiracy nut, but is it possible that rival software is trying to get exclusive contracts with publishers of some popular resources in order to squeeze Logos out and increase their market share?
I'm not sure if this is the case or not, but I do know that recently lots of publishers have been trying to up their royalty rates when it comes time to renew their contracts with companies such as Logos. With higher royalty rates the Bible software companies have lower profit margins, which is not good for many given the amount of work that goes into some resources. It could simply be that Logos does not want to agree to a new & higher royalty rate from Moody, which means that when the current contract ends they can no longer sell their resources until a new agreement is reached.
I know this kind of stuff because I talked frequently with the guy who handled this stuff @ WORDsearch during my time there.
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I don't mean to be a conspiracy nut, but is it possible that rival software is trying to get exclusive contracts with publishers of some popular resources in order to squeeze Logos out and increase their market share?
Interestingly enough, rival software vendors have accused Logos of doing this [:D]
I will not see the loss of MacArthur as a loss...just my personal opinion...The loss of John MacArthur will be huge to Logos.
Of course, it is always personal opinion as to what resources we buy. I respect John MacArthur, though as a Wesleyan and non-dispensationalist, I disagree with him on many things. In fact, about the only thing he writes that I am interested in is his New Testament Commentaries which I already have. (I think he does a great job on the commentaries, and I am not intimidated by the parts of his theology that I disagree with.) So I don't mean it will be a big loss to me, personally.
Yes, Michael, I agree it is a loss for Logos and for Moody, but especially for those that are blessed by Moody products (even MacArthur)...lol! I really was just having a tongue in cheek swipe at MacArthur as his "Charasmatic Chaos" left a bad taste in my mouth many years ago - I read widely from all parts of Christendom, and have a few of MacArthur's books on my shelf, but personally (and I respect that he is held in high regard by many) I'd rather spend my money elsewhere. God bless mate...:)
I mean that John MacArthur is very popular, and a big seller. The loss of his books will hurt Logos, if it cannot be corrected. It will hurt Logos in relationship to rival software which will continue to carry MacArthur's works. Because I care deeply about Logos' future - as well as my investment in Logos resources - I do indeed think the loss of John MacArthur is huge.
I don't mean to be a conspiracy nut, but is it possible that rival software is trying to get exclusive contracts with publishers of some popular resources in order to squeeze Logos out and increase their market share?
Sometime in the very near future, all Moody titles not in the public domain will be removed from Logos.com and will not be available for purchase.
This could happen as early as today.
We do not know when or if they will be coming back.
We apologize for any inconvenience.
I can see both Moody AND Logos getting many angry e-mails about this. Let's hope these companies can work something out. This is not good for either company.
On a side note, I'm thankful I own almost every Moody title I want already. While it would be nice to own the Everyman's Bible Commentary - it's missing some of its better titles anyway.
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Seems the folks at Moody are a little...well, um...moody.
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The Jesus and the Jewish Feasts collection is a useful set at a relatively low price for the value:
http://www.logos.com/product/5051/jesus-and-jewish-feasts-collection
Think I own everything Moody that I need. Thankfully there's enough Libronix MacArthur Lifeworks CDs floating around for sale still some people who are late to the party can at least pick up some of the commentaries.
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Think I own everything Moody that I need. Thankfully there's enough Libronix MacArthur Lifeworks CDs floating around for sale still some people who are late to the party can at least pick up some of the commentaries.
what's included in the CDs? Also, can we call CS if we buy have a key?
Yes, Mike, you can call Logos with the activation key in the package with the CD-ROM and they will unlock the resource and it will download straight to your Logos account.
I would just caution you to ensure you by the CD-ROM from a reputable source to ensure that the licence key has not been activated before by anyone else.
Yes, Mike, you can call Logos with the activation key in the package with the CD-ROM and they will unlock the resource and it will download straight to your Logos account.
I would just caution you to ensure you by the CD-ROM from a reputable source to ensure that the licence key has not been activated before by anyone else.
do you know whats on the MacArthur's cd?
Think I own everything Moody that I need. Thankfully there's enough Libronix MacArthur Lifeworks CDs floating around for sale still some people who are late to the party can at least pick up some of the commentaries.
what's included in the CDs? Also, can we call CS if we buy have a key?
Yes, if you have an unused key you can call CS and have them activate for you. Alternatively, you can go through an install process with Libronix (version 3) and then sync licenses
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Think I own everything Moody that I need.
Checked all Logos Moody titles and learned that I have the same status. Still I sent the email to Moody expressing my disappointment. Considering the possibility of future resource offerings.
Here is a list of all my "moody" resources I own "publisher:moody"
I have placed a an * next to the resources I use regularly or have found usefull.
* = good
*** = indispensible, a must have item
Moody Books
1 Timothy: The MacArthur New Testament Commentary
MacArthur, John F., Jr. 1 Timothy. MacArthur New Testament Commentary. Chicago: Moody Press, 1995.
2 Timothy: The MacArthur New Testament Commentary
MacArthur, John F., Jr. 2 Timothy. MacArthur New Testament Commentary. Chicago: Moody Press, 1995.
The Art of Storytelling: Easy Steps to Presenting an Unforgettable Story
Walsh, John D. The Art of Storytelling: Easy Steps to Presenting an Unforgettable Story. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2003.
As Iron Sharpens Iron: Building Character in a Mentoring Relationship
Hendricks, Howard, William Hendricks, Howard, and William. As Iron Sharpens Iron: Building Character in a Mentoring Relationship. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2009.
The Believer’s Armor: Ephesians 6:10–24
MacArthur, John. The Believer’s Armor. Chicago: Moody Press, 1986.
Biblical Answers to Contemporary Issues
Ryrie, Charles C. Biblical Answers to Contemporary Issues. Chicago, IL: Moody Press, 1991.
**A Biblical Theology of Missions
Peters, George W. A Biblical Theology of Missions. Chicago, IL: Moody Press, 1972.
*A Biblical Theology of the New Testament
Zuck, Roy B. A Biblical Theology of the New Testament. electronic ed. Chicago: Moody Press, 1994.
*A Biblical Theology of the Old Testament
Zuck, Roy B. A Biblical Theology of the Old Testament. electronic ed. Chicago: Moody Press, 1991.
Caring for Souls: Counseling Under the Authority of Scripture
Shields, Harry, and Gary J. Bredfeldt. Caring for Souls: Counseling Under the Authority of Scripture. Chicago, IL: Moody Press, 2001.
Change is Like A Slinky®: 30 Strategies for Promoting and Surviving Change in Your Organization
Finzel, Hans. Change Is Like a Slinky®: 30 Strategies for Promoting and Surviving Change in Your Organization. Chicago, IL: Northfield Publishing, 2004.
Defying Gravity: How to Survive the Storms of Pastoral Ministry
Henderson, Daniel. Defying Gravity: How to Survive the Storms of Pastoral Ministry. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2010.
*The Effective Pastor
Anderson, Robert C. The Effective Pastor. Chicago, IL: Moody Press, 1985.
From Fear to Love: Overcoming the Barriers to Healthy Relationships
Kane, Raymond, and Nancy Kane. From Fear to Love: Overcoming the Barriers to Healthy Relationships. Chicago, IL: Moody Press, 2002.
The Fulfilled Family
MacArthur, John F., Jr. The Fulfilled Family. Chicago: Moody Press, 1981.
A General Introduction to the Bible, Revised and Expanded
Geisler, Norman L., and William E. Nix. A General Introduction to the Bible. Rev. and expanded. Chicago: Moody Press, 1986.
Giving & Getting in the Kingdom: A Field Guide
Dillon, R. Mark. Giving & Getting in the Kingdom: A Field Guide. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2012.
Godology: Because Knowing God Changes Everything
George, Christian. Godology: Because Knowing God Changes Everything. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2009.
Great Leader Great Teacher: Recovering the Biblical Vision for Leadership
Bredfeldt, Gary, and R. Albert Mohler, Jr. Great Leader Great Teacher: Recovering the Biblical Vision for Leadership. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2006.
Hitler’s Cross: How the Cross of Christ Was Used to Promote the Nazi Agenda
Lutzer, Erwin, and Ravi Zacharias. Hitler’s Cross: How the Cross of Christ Was Used to Promote the Nazi Agenda. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2012.
Honest to God: The Means to True Transformation
Weidmann, Josh. Honest to God: The Means to True Transformation. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2012.
How to Know You’re Saved
Cole, C. Donald. How to Know You’re Saved. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2008.
How to Study the Bible
MacArthur, John, Jr. How to Study the Bible. John MacArthur's Bible Studies. Chicago: Moody Press, 1985.
The Intentional Church: Moving from Church Success to Community Transformation
Pope, Randy. The Intentional Church: Moving from Church Success to Community Transformation. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2006.
***Jensen’s Survey of the New Testament
Jensen, Irving L. Jensen's Survey of the New Testament: Search and Discover. Chicago: Moody Press, 1981.
***Jensen’s Survey of the Old Testament
Jensen, Irving L. Jensen's Survey of the Old Testament: Search and Discover. Chicago: Moody Press, 1978.
***Living by the Book: The Art and Science of Reading the Bible
Hendricks, Howard G., and William D. Hendricks. Living by the Book: The Art and Science of Reading the Bible. Chicago: Moody Publishers, 2007.
Living in Financial Victory
Evans, Tony. Living in Financial Victory. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2013.
The Making of an Atheist: How Immorality Leads to Unbelief
Spiegel, James S. The Making of an Atheist: How Immorality Leads to Unbelief. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2010.
The Mark of Jesus: Loving in a Way the World Can See
George, Timothy, and John Woodbridge. The Mark of Jesus: Loving in a Way the World Can See. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2005.
The Master’s Plan for the Church
MacArthur, John F., Jr. The Master’s Plan for the Church. Chicago: Moody Press, 1991.
**The Moody Handbook of Theology
Enns, Paul P. The Moody Handbook of Theology. Chicago, IL: Moody Press, 1989.
*The New Manners and Customs of Bible Times
Gower, Ralph, and Fred Wright. The New Manners and Customs of Bible Times. Chicago: Moody Press, 1987.
**The New Unger’s Bible Dictionary
Unger, Merrill Frederick, R. K. Harrison, Howard Frederic Vos et al. The New Unger’s Bible Dictionary. Rev. and updated ed. Chicago: Moody Press, 1988.
**The New Unger’s Bible Handbook
Unger, Merrill Frederick. The New Unger’s Bible Handbook. Rev. and updated ed. Chicago: Moody Publishers, 2005.
The Only Way to Happiness
MacArthur, John. The Beatitudes: The Only Way to Happiness. Chicago: Moody Press, 1998.
An Open Letter to a Jehovah’s Witness
Zuck, Roy B. An Open Letter to a Jehovah’s Witness. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2012.
*Paul the Apostle
Picirilli, Robert E. Paul the Apostle. Chicago: Moody Publishers, 1986.
The Real Scandal of the Evangelical Mind
Trueman, Carl R. The Real Scandal of the Evangelical Mind. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2011.
The Road Trip that Changed the World: The Unlikely Theory that Will Change How You View Culture, the Church, and Most Importantly, Yourself
Sayers, Mark. The Road Trip That Changed the World: The Unlikely Theory That Will Change How You View Culture, the Church, and Most Importantly, Yourself. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2012.
*Ryrie’s Basic Theology
Ryrie, Charles Caldwell. Basic Theology: A Popular Systematic Guide to Understanding Biblical Truth. Chicago, IL: Moody Press, 1999.
Soul Mission: Establishing Your Life’s Strategic Priorities
Richard, Ramesh. Soul Mission: Establishing Your Life’s Strategic Priorities. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2004.
***Spiritual Discipleship: Principles of Following Christ for Every Believer
Sanders, J. Oswald. Spiritual Discipleship: Principles of Following Christ for Every Believer. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2007.
***Spiritual Leadership: Principles of Excellence for Every Believer
Sanders, J. Oswald. Spiritual Leadership : Principles of Excellence for Every Believer. Updated ed.]. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2007.
A Survey of Bible Doctrine
Ryrie, Charles Caldwell. A Survey of Bible Doctrine. Chicago: Moody Press, 1972.
*A Survey of Old Testament Introduction
Archer, Gleason, Jr. A Survey of Old Testament Introduction. 3rd. ed. Chicago: Moody Press, 1994.
***Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament
Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament. Edited by R. Laird Harris, Gleason L. Archer, Jr. and Bruce K. Waltke. electronic ed. Chicago: Moody Press, 1999.
Titus: The MacArthur New Testament Commentary
MacArthur, John F., Jr. Titus. MacArthur New Testament Commentary. Chicago: Moody Press, 1996.
Tony Evans Book of Illustrations: Stories, Quotes, and Anecdotes from More Than 30 Years of Preaching and Public Speaking
Evans, Tony. Tony Evans' Book of Illustrations: Stories, Quotes, and Anecdotes from More Than 30 Years of Preaching and Public Speaking. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2009.
True Discipleship Companion Guide: The Art of Following Jesus
Koessler, John. True Discipleship Companion Guide: The Art of Following Jesus. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2003.
*True Discipleship: The Art of Following Jesus
Koessler, John. True Discipleship: The Art of Following Jesus. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2003.
The Ultimate Priority
MacArthur, John, Jr. The Ultimate Priority: John MacArthur, Jr. on Worship. electronic ed. Chicago: Moody Press, 1998.
Unmapped Darkness: Finding God's Path Through Suffering
Finch, Thomas. Unmapped Darkness: Finding God's Path Through Suffering. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2006.
The Vanishing Power of Death: Conquering Your Greatest Fear
Lutzer, Erwin. The Vanishing Power of Death: Conquering Your Greatest Fear. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2005.
Walk with Me: Pilgrim's Progress for Married Couples
Wald, Annie. Walk With Me: Pilgrim's Progress for Married Couples. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2012.
What You Should Know about Social Responsibility
Ryrie, Charles Caldwell. What You Should Know About Social Responsibility. Current christian issues. Chicago, IL: Moody Press, 1982.
Why Holiness Matters: We’ve Lost Our Way—But We Can Find It Again
Braun, Tyler. Why Holiness Matters: We’ve Lost Our Way—but We Can Find It Again. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2012.
*The Wycliffe Bible Commentary: New Testament
The Wycliffe Bible Commentary: New Testament. Edited by Charles F. Pfeiffer and Everett Falconer Harrison. Chicago: Moody Press, 1962.
*The Wycliffe Bible Commentary: Old Testament
Pfeiffer, Charles F. The Wycliffe Bible Commentary: Old Testament. Chicago: Moody Press, 1962.
Y’shua: The Jewish Way to Say Jesus
Rosen, Moishe. Y’shua: The Jewish Way to Say Jesus. Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 1982.
Here is a list of all my "moody" resources I own "publisher:moody"
Great list Kelvin. I agree with almost every one of your assessments. I had not yet purchased Spiritual Discipleship but I think I may do that now.
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just did a research..
MacArthur has 3 different bundles from Libronix years..
1. MacArthur Lifeworks 1.0
2. MacArthur Lifeworks 2.0 (has some books from 1.0)
3. MacArthur Essentials Bible study
Most of these bundles include several publishers, so these may be in a different catagory when and if Moody pulls the pin
I’m sorry my original post was vague. In an effort to communicate better with our customers, we wanted to make sure to get a message up before pulling all Moody content from our website.
Now we have additional information on the situation. Our contract with Moody is expiring, and unfortunately we have not been able to agree on new terms. So we will no longer be able to sell Moody content.
We don’t have a firm date yet on when Moody titles will be pulled. We’ll try to give you advanced warning if we can.
If you already own books published by Moody, you will not lose any content; and you’ll continue to get free updates when we fix typos, etc.
Now we have additional information on the situation. Our contract with Moody is expiring, and unfortunately we have not been able to agree on new terms. So we will no longer be able to sell Moody content.
That is disappointing to hear. I think that many of us suspected this to be the case but I am saddened none the less.
I previously mentioned in this thread that this makes me nervous for the future. It makes me wonder whether Logos may have contract disputes with other publishers in the future which is not a comforting fact for those of us who have invested a lot in Logos. I guess I just assumed that the resources that Logos offered would increase rather than diminish.
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I’m sorry my original post was vague. In an effort to communicate better with our customers, we wanted to make sure to get a message up before pulling all Moody content from our website.
MUCH appreciated! Thank you!
I’m sorry my original post was vague. In an effort to communicate better with our customers, we wanted to make sure to get a message up before pulling all Moody content from our website.
Now we have additional information on the situation. Our contract with Moody is expiring, and unfortunately we have not been able to agree on new terms. So we will no longer be able to sell Moody content.
We don’t have a firm date yet on when Moody titles will be pulled. We’ll try to give you advanced warning if we can.
Thank you, Kent. Do you know yet whether this applies to Vyrso books too, or is that a separate contract (with, presumably, better terms from Moody's perspective)? I know Logos doesn't get much for Vyrso books so it would be hard to imagine negotiating an even better deal for Moody on those. I guess Moody no longer sees the benefit of the added value that Logos brings to Logos edition books. That's really a shame.
There doesn't really seem to be that much published by Moody that is of interest in any case so I don't know what the hubbub is all about.
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Well,The Moody Blues have been going on for about 49 years. These Moody blues are now up to 10 pages.
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Sometime in the very near future, all Moody titles not in the public domain will be removed from Logos.com and will not be available for purchase.
This could happen as early as today.
We do not know when or if they will be coming back.
We apologize for any inconvenience.
That's a great way to generate sales. Glad they aren't gone; hoping they don't. But the funny thing is that you'll have a lot of frustrated people if they do AND if they don't
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
gbcaz.org
That's a great way to generate sales.
the funny thing is that you'll have a lot of frustrated people if they do AND if they don't
Glad they aren't gone; hoping they don't.
Have joy in the Lord!
Maybe Moody is just being a bit moody right now due to biological circumstances beyond their control (PMS = Purchase More Soon!)
We've reached a decision with Moody. We'll be pulling all Moody-owned titles off Logos.com (not Vyrso.com) later today or tomorrow. We're not treating this as temporary. It's unlikely that they will be coming back in the future.
Thanks for the update Phil. Sad to hear.
It's unlikely that they will be coming back in the future.
I am sorry to hear this. I know that most of their material is lay-oriented, rather than academic, but that is an important segment of Logos' market. I think the MacArthur stuff is perhaps the biggest loss for that market.
I picked up a couple of items I thought I might miss someday if I didn't have them, but Moody's exit from Logos doesn't affect me much.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
We'll be pulling all Moody-owned titles off Logos.com (not Vyrso.com) later today or tomorrow.Is there any discussion on moving some titles from Logos to Vyrso?
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We'll be pulling all Moody-owned titles off Logos.com (not Vyrso.com) later today or tomorrow.
Losing Moody & Manning in the same month! I can't take any more. [:'(]
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Losing Moody & Manning in the same month! I can't take any more.
But Moody didn't die. There is still hope for future life.
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Losing Moody & Manning in the same month! I can't take any more.But Moody didn't die. There is still hope for future life.
Moody is a company not a person. I think Brennan Manning has more hope for future life (Rom 8:11; 1 Cor 15:42; Phil 3:21) than Moody as a company does even though Moody will likely survive cutting off their relationship with Logos.
Some Moody stuff with MacArthur commentaries still available: http://www.logos.com/product/8584/macarthur-lifeworks-library-20
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
gbcaz.org
Some Moody stuff with MacArthur commentaries still available: http://www.logos.com/product/8584/macarthur-lifeworks-library-20
Some Moody stuff with MacArthur commentaries still available: http://www.logos.com/product/8584/macarthur-lifeworks-library-20
I'm thinking that this may be because multiple publishers are involve in the collection.
Ken I purchase AM Foundation Courseware program from logos, and I have loss the disc and when I call logos to replace it logos they don't have one but they let me download from server, I can not take the test nor quiz without the disk and when I call moody they no longer sell program. My question is how can I get disk or what can I do now.
Ken I purchase AM Foundation Courseware program from logos, and I have loss the disc and when I call logos to replace it logos they don't have one but they let me download from server, I can not take the test nor quiz without the disk and when I call moody they no longer sell program. My question is how can I get disk or what can I do now.
Since you did purchase the program would it be legal for someone else who has the disc make a copy for you or would this be breaking copyright laws?
Ken I purchase AM Foundation Courseware program from logos, and I have loss the disc and when I call logos to replace it logos they don't have one but they let me download from server, I can not take the test nor quiz without the disk and when I call moody they no longer sell program. My question is how can I get disk or what can I do now.
Since you did purchase the program would it be legal for someone else who has the disc make a copy for you or would this be breaking copyright laws?
Have joy in the Lord!
just a test.
Just a test
just a test again.
Kent can you explain in general terms why this is happening? Can we still purchase them today?
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If I'm not mistaken is that not 275 resources? That is huge!
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I'm sorry; I'm not able to go into further detail.
You can still purchase them at this very moment.
This is very disappointing but thanks for the warning. There were many resources that I have not yet purchased that were on my wish list. Unfortunately I am only able to afford a few of them now which I just purchased before they are removed.
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Hey Kent, I was wondering if you could tell us why this "Luke 6-10: MacArthur New Testament Commentary" was dropped off prepub after a couple of years and if it may come back?
Thanks
I too feel like I had to jump on some MacArthur resources before they were gone at close of business today.
I also have a prepub for Classic Commentaries on Revelation, will that still go through or be taken offline?
I cannot express my concern and disappointment when two large, presumably Christian organizations, cannot come to a financial agreement, and all of us eager, anxious, and growing believers are caught in the cross-fire. I could expect this from a Zondervan, but not from a Moody and/or Logos. With all that is going on in the world today, in our own country as far as politics and christian "repression", are we (you) setting the right example and making it even more difficult for believers to grow in our faith and glorify God in our homes, communities, country, and culture? What a shame that we, the PAYING customers (and this resource is NOT cheap), are the ones who ultimately pay the price!
Welcome to the forums Steven. I sense that you felt more compelled to make a passionate statement rather than to share in our community but I hope that this will not be your last post. Please come back and visit and participate often.
Over the years I have learned that I need to be so careful at coming to conclusions that I don't really fully understand. Although many of us (including me) were very disappointed at the loss of Moody as a Logos partner I must remind myself that I don't know the full story. I don't understand why they could not work something out and hope that something will be worked out in the future. In the meantime I have chosen to give them the benefit of the doubt.
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Remember that even the Apostle Paul and his mentor Barnabas couldn't agree and parted ways.