Requesting user feedback: Send to Kindle feature

Yes, I would be very interested in a "Send to Kindle" feature for Logos resources.  There are lots of Logos resources now that I wish to read cover to cover.  Kindle would be a very nice way to do this.

Michael Childs said:

I read on my iPad, but the Kindle app is a much, much better reading experience for extensive reading than the Logos app.

What makes it better? Is it just speed?

This is a totally awesome idea!!!!!  Yes Please!!!!![Y]

Absolutely, yes.

Would definitely use.

Mark Barnes said:

Liam Walsh said:

Is there anywhere I can find more detailed instructions about this 4 step process?

There's a plugin to download first. See http://apprenticealf.wordpress.com/2012/09/10/calibre-plugins-the-simplest-option-for-removing-most-ebook-drm/

You also need to have the Kindle Reader installed on your PC.

Thanks Mark!

I got the plug in, and followed the installation instructions here: http://apprenticealf.wordpress.com/2012/09/10/calibre-plugins-the-simplest-option-for-removing-most-ebook-drm/ but for some reason I'm getting the exact same results. Is there a page on this for dummies that will go over every detail?

Thanks again!

Definitely!

It's pretty clear that I'm in the minority here, but I'm not sure that I would use this feature. I have a Kindle reader (2nd gen, e-ink). I no longer use it at all. I do all my e-reading on my iPad (4th gen, retina) in either Logos or the iOS Kindle app. If it's already in Logos, I'd continue reading in Logos, if only for the ability to highlight and annotate. I suppose if somehow this made available a large chunk of my library that's not available on Logos mobile, I might consider it. But I don't see how that would be likely.

I know the e-ink is a bit easier on the eyes, but not so much (for me) as to warrant carrying two devices or not being able to highlight / annotate.

My $.02 ...

Donnie

I am interested 1000 % on this feature. 

Mark Barnes said:

You have to re-import all your Kindle books after installing the plugin.

Hey Mark,

I did this, but it still didn't work. I could not find the files for the kindle books (from the kindle for mac app), so I had to copy them from my kindle fire to the desktop (connected with a usb), and then had to add the files on my desktop from the add books option. I'm not sure if this changes my situation or not. I have no idea where the individual book files would be storred. I searched my computer and came up with nothing even though my kindle for mac app has about 50 resources downloaded. 

Thanks again-

Liam Walsh said:

I did this, but it still didn't work.

I don't have a Mac, but many of these tutorials have Mac screenshots/instructions. Hopefully one will help: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=remove+drm+from+kindle 

This one might be the best? http://www.cultofmac.com/173945/how-to-read-kindle-books-in-ibooks-and-keep-your-library-in-the-cloud-how-to/

Mark Barnes said:

Use Word to convert from .html to .docx

Ok... I got it except for this step... Does anyone have any pointers? I have Word 2008 for Mac.

abondservant said:

Sorry to all the kindle users out there, but I have no interest in this. I like my iPad. I don't, and probably won't have a kindle.

There's a Kindle app for iPad. I use the Kindle app on my iPod Touch.

Fr Devin Roza said:

And... it's important that it footnotes.

Yes, if there's a send to Kindle option it needs to support images and footnotes.

alabama24 said:

Mark Barnes said:

But it's pointless reading Logos books on Kindle for iPad when you could use the Logos app.

Personally, I would much rather use the Logos mobile app… but using the Kindle app isn't pointless for some readers… One reason is that some readers prefer the typeface choices (which is a frequent complaint among a strong minority of users). Others might prefer the "dimmer" settings found in the Kindle app.

I have and do use the kindle app for my ipad - many of my text books are in kindle format, and I DO prefer the font. HOWEVER, not enough to prefer the kindle app to the logos app. I would much rather see a more robust (even if it doesn't reach parity) Logos for ios app.

It seems foolish to me from a business standpoint to allow people to export books from your proprietary format to a different one that can relatively easily be cracked. I suppose logos format could be cracked as well.

Additionally, next people are going to want this feature for their other tablet devices, for iBooks (which i like a lot better than kindle books AND has a wider user base I'd guess), and so forth.

The dimmer settings are available to anyone for any app... Simply push the home button, scroll over to "Settings" then "Brightness and Contrast" then use the slider to adjust for your brightness (or dim) needs.

If the mobile app were what it should be, then there would be no need for extraneous features like this I think.

The mobile app is great, but it could definitely be better.

I would be interested in a send to Kindle, even if notes etc can't be used.

Jerry Bush said:

I would much rather Logos get my money.

If I'm Logos CEO, this would be music to my ears, and enough reason to go ahead and implement this feature immediately. I'm sure you're not the only person with this sentiment.

Tonya J Ross said:

Development is considering implementing a 'Send to Kindle' feature for resources in your Logos library.  

Before investing a significant amount of time on this item, we would like to assess user interest based on the fact that this feature would not support sending notes/highlights to or receiving notes/highlights from Kindle devices/apps (which is mentioned in the UserVoice request for this item).

Please let us know if you would still be interested in seeing this feature.

I am getting into this discussion a bit late, but do have some thoughts.  I hope that some of this can generate some discussion of the possibilities for LOGOS as it develops the tool suggested by Tonya last Friday.

I like the idea - with a few questions:

1. Can we send over 100 pages using the proposed method?
2. Kindle has a built in maximum size of a personal document that can be sent to the Kindle.  Perhaps if the conversion could be to a Mobi document that could be loaded from a PC (rather than sent to a Kindle), it would be possible to get around this limitation.
3. Using the normal "send to Kindle" procedure, the document cannot be sent to a Kindle app - only to a Kindle device.  Again, this can be worked around by actually creating a Mobi document and then sideloading it from the PC.
4. There already exists a "Send to Kindle" printer provided by Amazon - at least for the PC.  I do not know if this is also available for the Mac, though I would guess it is.  I just sent a 94 page document (nearly the max, unless a larger document is allowed using the LOGOS tool) without errors.  The "Send to Kindle" printer also allows highlighting to be "printed", I do not know about notes.
5. The "Send to Kindle" printer converts LOGOS print file to a PDF and the PDF is sent to the chosen Kindle e-reader (again, you cannot send to an app using this procedure).  Note, other file formats are sent AS-IS - where AMAZON has tools on its end to convert to a more standard Mobi or Kindle format.

What might be more useful and marketable as a separate product, as well, is a "Print to Mobi" or "Print to ePub" printer (as someone noted, the conversion between the two is relatively simple with Calibre).  The resulting Mobi file could be then sent to the Kindle, using the normal tools used to mail a document to one's Kindle or it could be sideloaded in a Kindle.  

The advantage of ePub is that there are tools that can read an ePub file for the Kindle (at least on the Kindle Fire), but I know of no tools that can be used on a Nook to read a Kindle book. 

Most of this comes from my experience - not from any insider information.  As a book reviewer, I get books in a variety of formats and have worked to find methods and workarounds that allow me to send a great many files to one or more of my Kindles (a Kindle Fire and an original Kindle) for reading - either as text or to be read aloud as I drive.

 

Absolutely! This would be one of the best technological advancements Logos could make next. Even if highlighting and other features will not work this way, the Kindle's E-Ink and long battery life would make Logos book reading much easier. Thank you for looking into this!

Yes, please!

Yes.  Would give me a real incentive to switch from buying ebooks from Kindle to Logos depending on price.