I will be soon be taking a Biblical Archaeology class and am looking for some advice. What are some good archaeology resources available in Logos? Also, are there any Logos tools or features that could be helpful in a class like this?
Thanks!
Unfortunately you missed out on the best (or at least most bang-for-your-buck) archaeology resource that was available in Logos: the Ultimate Archaeology Collection. It included The Biblical World in Pictures, Photos from the Holy Land, The Rise of Ancient Israel, The Wycliffe Historical Geography of Bible Lands, Ancient Israel, Feminist Approaches to the Bible (not sure why it came in that collection), and several collections of magazines (Archaeology Odyssey, Bible Review, Biblical Archaeologist, Biblical Archaeology Review). But they don't sell that anymore.
For a great way to get a bunch of archaeology resources for less, check out the comparison chart for the different sizes of Archaeology Bundles:
http://www.logos.com/product/28194/archaeology-bundle-xl
I can't actually recommend what are the best resources because Biblical Archaeology isn't an area I've studied in great depth.
Two Resources often quoted in texts are:
See if you can pick up the Biblical Archaeological Review on Libronix CD-ROM too. If you do a search of these forums, you'll see one or two threads about it.
You might also want The Archaeological Encyclopedia of the Holy Land (not in any of the Archaeology Bundles mentioned above).
Cities of Paul: Images and Interpretations from the Harvard New Testament Archaeology Project which is included in three of the Archaeology Bundles is an excellent collection of 900 high quality photographs of archaeological finds.
Thanks for the comments. The Archaeology Bundles are not as affordable as I wish they were.
Since Logos do not sell it anymore, I will post a link http://store.bib-arch.org/detail-clearance-sale-2013.asp
NOW $34.95 (Reg. $134.95)
Thanks for the link Wild Eagle.
Daniel, not sure if you know how to activate Libronix CDs. All you need to do is call Logos customer services with the licence key in the packaging and they will unlock the resource to your account and it will download and index like any other Logos resource. This is a bargain price for BAR - I'm sure I bought it only a few months back at double that price!
I saw couple other resources made by Libronix under CDs. this
should I buy them to add more pictures in my library?
do you have those two? also how do you like your cd you've bought from BAR?
I saw couple other resources made by Libronix under CDs. this should I buy them to add more pictures in my library?
I have both BR and Archaeology Odyssey. I've found a useful article in the former from time to time. The pictures in it aren't all that great, given some of the more excellent images that have come along in other media resources since (such as Cities of Paul: Images and Interpretations from the Harvard New Testament and Archaeology Project). Also, some of them are marred by the fact that they were scanned directly from the print magazine where they originally appeared across a 2-page spread. For example:
There are photos in Archaeology Odyssey too. They are mostly pretty small, and my brief spot checking of the tagging of them shows they aren't perfectly tagged, so you might miss some on a search. For example, this picture of an interior of a dwelling has "Celsus" mentioned in the popup text, but a search for Celsus #image in a collection consisting of all my journals and magazines does not find it (it does find other images, though, so I know I've constructed my search correctly).
Still, in spite of the limitations, I'm guessing that if you're a big biblical archaeology buff, you'd want to get both of these resources.
The Archaeology Bundles are not as affordable as I wish they were.
I believe they're 50% off when bought together with an L5 package. Some have reported success in getting the discount later as well.
BAR ARCHIVE: 1975–2005 CD-ROM NOW $34.95 (Reg. $134.95)
That's the best price I've seen for BAR. I'll take that. Now I just have to figure out how to get around their horrible postage for shipping out of the US. Has anyone tried getting them to just send the code in an e-mail?
I suggest waiting with BR and the Odyssey. I've seen them for half those prices, quite regularly.
I live in the UK and bought this a few months ago. I didn't ask them to send me the serial code, instead I had it shipped to a friend who lives in the US and he then sent me a photo of the serial key for activation. Perhaps you could ask someone on these forums nicely to do that for you? [:)]
I will venture to add something from my wish list located "somewhere over the rainbow." I would like to see DJD (Discoveries in the Judean Desert) in Logos. We already have the text, but I have found value in looking at the images in these books and making my own judgment on the text. It would almost necessitate a portrait monitor since these are folio pages rather than quarto or octavo. Oh well, "A man's reach must exceed his grasp else what's a heaven for?"
I didn't ask them to send me the serial code, instead I had it shipped to a friend who lives in the US and he then sent me a photo of the serial key for activation. Perhaps you could ask someone on these forums nicely to do that for you?
I've had that thought, yes. But $0 is better than $7, so if anyone has had success with getting BAR to mail the code, that would be cheaper. And faster.
I would like to see DJD (Discoveries in the Judean Desert) in Logos.
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Anyone interested in these images will also benefit from the DSS Internet Links Index that Fr Devin Roza compiled as a personal book:
http://community.logos.com/forums/p/66223/462077.aspx#462077
how good is the BAR Archive? any comments before I make the purchase? ($41 w/ship seems ok deal)
It depends on your interests. I have subscribed to the magazine and have it in Logos. I am one of many that wish BAR was still offered in Logos (the newer volumes that they only offer on their web site now in non-Logos format). If it continued I would have stopped my print subscription already.
To me the articles are very specific about very specific discoveries. Sometimes they will be ones that you will be very interested in, maybe because of true biblical relevance, like a new discovery of an ossuary and was it Jesus' or someone elses; it could be finding the true "pillar of salt" that Lot's wife turned into, etc. It's not sensational, it just lays out the facts and lets you think about it, since of course it's seldom there is anything conclusive in the archeology world IMHO. I am no archaeologist by any stretch, and there is a reasonable amount of the content I don't quite understand, yet I find the articles to be well-written and they seem to be academically solid/reputable.
Sometimes the articles are about stuff I have no interest in, like a fork that may have come from Solomon's palace or something. It's like people who want to talk about computer memory timings/cycles/latency, that's just a little too much information for me :-)
It's interesting to see where the digs/work is done. There are also articles about disagreements between archeologists, claiming credit, disputing findings, etc., and not always in a very professional manner (especially the publisher gets in on these, he seems to be a lightning rod of sorts for this stuff - Hershel Shanks). IMHO, there is definitely an undercurrent of immaturity that seems to go with the turf. I just skip those articles, mostly :-)
All in all I enjoy it because it is fascinating that no archaeological find has ever brought the truth of the Bible into doubt. As well, so much of the Bible has been able to be historically affirmed through the hard work of so many people. BAR will help you because you will see geography, buildings, reconstructions, simulations etc. of places and things mentioned in the Bible - that makes it a richer experience. If I get a few tidbits a year, it just makes me appreciate the gifts of God's revelation and participation in history.
Hope that helps!
Thanks for that info Paul-C. I am looking forward to adding these to my library.
It depends on your interests. I have subscribed to the magazine and have it in Logos. I am one of many that wish BAR was still offered in Logos (the newer volumes that they only offer on their web site now in non-Logos format). If it continued I would have stopped my print subscription already. To me the articles are very specific about very specific discoveries. Sometimes they will be ones that you will be very interested in, maybe because of true biblical relevance, like a new discovery of an ossuary and was it Jesus' or someone elses; it could be finding the true "pillar of salt" that Lot's wife turned into, etc. It's not sensational, it just lays out the facts and lets you think about it, since of course it's seldom there is anything conclusive in the archeology world IMHO. I am no archaeologist by any stretch, and there is a reasonable amount of the content I don't quite understand, yet I find the articles to be well-written and they seem to be academically solid/reputable. Sometimes the articles are about stuff I have no interest in, like a fork that may have come from Solomon's palace or something. It's like people who want to talk about computer memory timings/cycles/latency, that's just a little too much information for me :-) It's interesting to see where the digs/work is done. There are also articles about disagreements between archeologists, claiming credit, disputing findings, etc., and not always in a very professional manner (especially the publisher gets in on these, he seems to be a lightning rod of sorts for this stuff - Hershel Shanks). IMHO, there is definitely an undercurrent of immaturity that seems to go with the turf. I just skip those articles, mostly :-) All in all I enjoy it because it is fascinating that no archaeological find has ever brought the truth of the Bible into doubt. As well, so much of the Bible has been able to be historically affirmed through the hard work of so many people. BAR will help you because you will see geography, buildings, reconstructions, simulations etc. of places and things mentioned in the Bible - that makes it a richer experience. If I get a few tidbits a year, it just makes me appreciate the gifts of God's revelation and participation in history. Hope that helps!
thank you for the comment. I just purchased the BAR for $41.
BAR rocks. It is a shame that it is no longer being updated on Logos. I have written into BAR and asked them to reconsider, but so far nothing positive has come of it.
Bump.
Is there any more resources that are similar such these?
What I mean is...not being sold by logos & we can get them thru cd's with lower price.. is there any more stuffs like these?
Thank you.
See if you can pick up the Biblical Archaeological Review on Libronix CD-ROM too. If you do a search of these forums, you'll see one or two threads about it. Since Logos do not sell it anymore, I will post a link http://store.bib-arch.org/detail-clearance-sale-2013.asp BAR ARCHIVE: 1975–2005 CD-ROM NOW $34.95 (Reg. $134.95)
I assume this is in Libronix format but it doesn't say so anywhere on the website. Can someone confirm this?
Yes, you can see a tiny Libronix icon on the lower left of the package in the image there.
I assume this is in Libronix format but it doesn't say so anywhere on the website. Can someone confirm this? Yes, you can see a tiny Libronix icon on the lower left of the package in the image there.
You have the eyes of a hawk Rosie. Thanks. I couldn't see any sign and I was even looking for it. Mind you the photo is pretty small.
Mind you the photo is pretty small.
I clicked on the image on that website and got to a slightly larger image where the logo was easier to see. But I also went into it believing what I wanted to see (since I was pretty sure this was a Libronix resource) and knowing where on the box to look. Of course that could be some picture of an ancient vase dug up in Ur for all we know, but it looked like a Libronix logo to me, so I declared that it was. [:)]
Thanks Paul. I just placed my order today. If anyone is interested shipping to Canada is $9.
I just placed my order today.
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so did i [:)]
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If anyone is interested shipping to Canada is $9.
It was $7 to VA.
Did you ever get that taken care of?
Since Logos do not sell it anymore, I will post a link http://store.bib-arch.org/detail-clearance-sale-2013.asp BAR ARCHIVE: 1975–2005 CD-ROM NOW $34.95 (Reg. $134.95)
Just want to inform those who didnt buy it yet that this is clearance sale which means that this item might be discontinued from their website.
Since Logos do not sell it anymore, I will post a link http://store.bib-arch.org/detail-clearance-sale-2013.asp BAR ARCHIVE: 1975–2005 CD-ROM NOW $34.95 (Reg. $134.95) Just want to inform those who didnt buy it yet that this is clearance sale which means that this item might be discontinued from their website.
This is a great deal that you should grab while it is still available. I am glad to now have this resource in my Logos library.
I received my copy yesterday. It looks like they are now unfortunately sold out.
I was a kid in heaven last night...I wish that my wife didn't have to remind me to go to sleep! :-)
Unfortunately, no. I kept postponing for lack of time, only to find myself with even less time later. And when I finally realized at the beginning of this week that I had to take action immediately, regardless of not having time for it, they were already sold out.[:'(]
