Blessings and Peace to my Logos Community Forums Sisters and Brothers! *smile*
Thanks Milford. Here are another currently free book to add to your list. Over the years I have greatly appreciated her ministry in light of her significant physical trials.
A Place of Healing by Joni Eareckson Tada -
http://vyrso.com/product/17395/a-place-of-healing?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Here is a description: In this eloquent account of her current struggle with physical pain, Joni Eareckson Tada offers her perspective on divine healing, God’s purposes, and what it means to live with joy. A Place of Healing is not an ivory-tower treatise on suffering. It’s an intimate look into the life of a mature woman of God. Whether readers are enduring physical pain, financial loss, or relational grief, Joni invites them to process their suffering with her. Together, they will navigate the distance between God’s magnificent yes and heartbreaking no—and find new hope for thriving in-between.
Bless you, Bruce! Thanks for sharing that with the Logos Forums Community! *smile*
It's a book that I haven't read yet, so your words encourage me to "Take, Read" (thinking of St. Augustine - "Tolle Lege" Joni's words, I believe, will most certainly reflect the Grace of her and our Saviour!
They added another:
Fatal Judgement: A Novel
All of those titles are all also free on Amazon Kindle too. Lets set the record straight. Vyrso.com is not giving these away.
Obviously it is the publisher or distributor and it is not only free on Vyrso.
Also free on Amazon for the kindle.
They added another: Fatal Judgement: A Novel
Also free on Kindle
Yes, so?
Lets set the record straight. Vyrso.com is not giving these away. Obviously it is the publisher or distributor and it is not only free on Vyrso.
Lets set the record straight. Vyrso.com is not giving these away.
Given that it is also free on Kindle it is probably a publisher or distributor sale. I would suspect that many, if not most, of the free books are this way but nonetheless it is also a Vyrso offer and for that I am thankful.
nonetheless it is also a Vyrso offer and for that I am thankful.
+1.
Most of the offers are indeed extended from the publisher. Nevertheless, there is a cost associated to Logos… they have to pay for the servers, the website, maintenance, etc.
Vyrso.com is not giving these away. Obviously it is the publisher or distributor and it is not only free on Vyrso.
Vyrso.com is not giving these away.
So what?
Vyrso is kind enough to carry these books in Logos format for those who don't own a Kindle. I've got a PC, an iMac, and an iPad. I do not have a Kindle.
Just giving credit where credit is due.
Wow! Another "round" of "freebies" from Vyrso.com
The title of the thread would lead one to believe that it is Vyrso that is the source of the free books.
Simply pointing out that it isn't always so.
Vyrso is kind enough to carry these books in Logos format ...
That is one way of looking at it. Vyrso exists to do acts of kindness.
A more accurate and realistic view is that Vyrso exists to make a profit on the reselling of books in electronic format.
I have received over 330 free books from Vyrso. I've probably purchased two dozen.
Give credit where it is due? Then why do you give Amazon Kindle credit if it is indeed the publisher? Kind of a double standard you have there.
Thanks, Logos for lots of free Vyrso books.
I mentioned the same offer on the kindle only to demonstrate that the offer is not limited to (and did not originate from) Vyrso. I think most people with average or above reading comprehension would understand that and hence would not perceive a nonexistent double standard.
How is this for reading comprehension?:
I mentioned the same offer on the kindle only to demonstrate that the offer is not limited to (and did not originate from) Vyrso
Nobody in this thread said the books were limited to Vyrso, now did they? So your comprehension is suffering a bit.
I think most people with average or above reading comprehension would understand that and hence would not perceive a nonexistent double standard.
If "most" people would understand that implies not "all" would. So, I introduce myself as one of the exceptional people who perceives that you have a little animosity towards the generosity of Logos. fwiw: In 5th grade I tested at the College Senior reading level. If your posts had better clarity we both could have been spared this interaction.
Nobody in this thread said the books were limited to Vyrso, now did they?
I'm glad to hear that you were a genius in 5th grade. That's nice to know [:D]
Apparently you still do not understand the point here. The title of the thread says "from Vryso". It did not explicitly state that Vyrso was the only outlet or that Vryso was the source of "generosity". But it definitely IMPLIES it.
I was merely pointing out that Vryso was not the true source of what you are calling "generosity". No one else is still posting, so I assume that they understood my point. It had enough clarity for everyone else to understand. Everyone except the genius.
It did not explicitly state that Vyrso was the only outlet or that Vryso was the source of "generosity".
You are still missing the point. For Logos users who don't have Kindles, Logos is being generous to offer these titles on Vyrso. That generosity appears to be appreciated by the posters in this thread. We don't care if Kindle, Accordance, or WordSearch gives it away for free also. We are Logos users. We are grateful.
Vyroso is not being generous by giving you something free if it was the publisher who decided to offer it free. I know you are smart enough to understand this. I think you like to argue just for the sake of arguing.
I'm not sure this argument is helpful, and I don't want to prolong it. I'm really not sure it's a disagreement sufficiently serious to even make it worth having. Agree to disagree, gentlemen.
However, for the sake of Milford, who has been unwittingly dragged into the argument by virtue of him being responsible for the title of the thread, it's worth pointing out that he didn't say "from Vyrso", but "from Vyrso.com". As such, it seems to me that he wasn't attempting to locate the source of the generosity (was it Vyrso/Logos' generosity, or the publishers?), but rather the source of the files (the vyrso.com website). We know that free offers require both the agreement of the publisher and the retailer (and for that matter the author/rights holder too). I'm grateful to all of them.
So that's a third perspective. If John or SuperTramp (or anyone else, for that matter) doesn't agree, that's absolutely fine. I don't mind one bit. But please do it nicely [:)].
I'm not sure this argument is helpful, and I don't want to prolong it. I'm really not sure it's a disagreement sufficiently serious to even make it worth having. Agree to disagree, gentlemen. However, for the sake of Milford, who has been unwittingly dragged into the argument by virtue of him being responsible for the title of the thread, it's worth pointing out that he didn't say "from Vyrso", but "from Vyrso.com". As such, it seems to me that he wasn't attempting to locate the source of the generosity (was it Vyrso/Logos' generosity, or the publishers?), but rather the source of the files (the vyrso.com website). We know that free offers require both the agreement of the publisher and the retailer (and for that matter the author/rights holder too). I'm grateful to all of them. So that's a third perspective. If John or SuperTramp (or anyone else, for that matter) doesn't agree, that's absolutely fine. I don't mind one bit. But please do it nicely .
So that's a third perspective. If John or SuperTramp (or anyone else, for that matter) doesn't agree, that's absolutely fine. I don't mind one bit. But please do it nicely .
You are still missing the point. For Logos users who don't have Kindles, Logos is being generous to offer these titles on Vyrso. That generosity appears to be appreciated by the posters in this thread. We don't care if Kindle, Accordance, or WordSearch gives it away for free also. We are Logos users. We are grateful. Vyroso is not being generous by giving you something free if it was the publisher who decided to offer it free. I know you are smart enough to understand this. I think you like to argue just for the sake of arguing.
Also, in addition to what Mark said, you seem to assume that Logos is required to put anything on sale that the publisher wishes. This doesn't seem to be the case, as not too long ago the NIVAC was on sale through Kindle for $5 per volume. I would guess that this was a publisher sale. Logos chose not to follow with its own sale. So it is probably up to Logos whether they extend their users a sale or not. In this case, they chose to, and even though I am not interested in those particular books, I am sure that many people are.
you seem to assume that Logos is required to put anything on sale that the publisher wishes.
No not really. I never assumed anything. These books were all free both on Vryso and Amazon Kindle. But Barnes & Noble didn't have them for free. Obviously B&N for whatever reason was not involved in whatever promotional deals were taking place. Does that make them less generous? nope. They are in business to make a profit just like Vryso, Logos and Amazon.
If you want to talk about one of these companies being "generous", it would have to be Amazon. Amazon was selling eBooks at below their cost until Apple and others got involved in big lawsuits. Amazon was the only one of these companies that as a business model was literally giving eBooks away at below cost. That is how they ended up with close to 70% market share. And that is why the Department of Justice went after them. Looks like they are still after Apple. But nobody is suing Logos or Vryso for selling its products too cheap. Not that I am aware of.
and even though I am not interested in those particular books ...
I wasn't going to go there, but now that you mentioned it, truth is that none of these books have any value for me. Sure there might be somebody who wanted one of these titles ... but chances are they would have already bought it if they really wanted it. Personally I don't want them even if they are free. And it is likely that the freebies are just being used to increase somebodies distribution numbers on a chart somewhere. They certainly are not breaking the bank to give these title away. There is no line of people waiting to buy these books if the price would drop a little.
Fact is that they are losers. Bookstores have historically had to heavily discount losers like these to get rid of excess inventory. With eBooks, there is no inventory to eliminate so I would guess that the publishers just want to boost sales and distribution numbers, and giving away what they cannot sell really isn't costing them anything.
An electronic book has essentially no distribution cost, and has an infinitely scalable potential income. It costs money to produce the first one, but from that point on it is just copies that cost virtually nothing. (undoubtedly someone will now want to lecture me about server costs and the cost of "tagging" etc.) Please save it. Have heard it already. Whatever those costs are, they are fixed costs, while the potential profit is scalable.
With real books, selling more copies means more trees to chop down, more printing cost, more warehouse space, more distribution and logistics, more handling. These costs are not fixed with real books, they scale with the number of copies sold. And none of them exist with eBooks.
Vyroso is not being generous by giving you something free if it was the publisher who decided to offer it free.
What the publisher gives away is the sum that Logos would normally owe them/sold copy. The rest of the price -- the part that is meant to cover Logos' own costs -- is given away by Logos (unless, of course, the publisher literally pays Logos to give away the books for free, which seems unlikely).
So Logos/Vyrso is definitely being generous. Most likely, they are being far more generous than the publisher, since they both lose their income, and keep the costs (in fact, they probably increase their costs, since web pages have to be recoded etc.)
Milford, my funds are pretty tight. What does that convert to in USD??
[;)]
Bookstores have historically had to heavily discount losers like these to get rid of excess inventory. With eBooks, there is no inventory to eliminate so I would guess that the publishers just want to boost sales and distribution numbers, and giving away what they cannot sell really isn't costing them anything.
There is also the possibility that by giving away a new author's book, a fan base can be created, which may translate into increased sales with the next book published, or increase interest in earlier titles.
Blessings and Peace to my Logos Community Forums Sisters and Brothers! *smile* Milford, my funds are pretty tight. What does that convert to in USD??
I wish you Wholeness! Wellness! שָׁלֽוֹם
Bookstores have historically had to heavily discount losers like these to get rid of excess inventory. With eBooks, there is no inventory to eliminate so I would guess that the publishers just want to boost sales and distribution numbers, and giving away what they cannot sell really isn't costing them anything. There is also the possibility that by giving away a new author's book, a fan base can be created, which may translate into increased sales with the next book published, or increase interest in earlier titles.
