UPDATE: Orthodox Early Fathers Bundle (54 vols.) Now Available for Download

Good morning, everyone. We were apparently still having issues with the web store yesterday afternoon, and some were seeing $0.00 on this set, among other issues. Hopefully they are resolved now. If not, please let me know so we can have someone correct them (I barely know CSS, so I'm not the man for the job!). Smile

I have adjusted the price on this set. I believe that this is a more appropriate price point, and I thank everyone who provided feedback on this bundle yesterday. My only goal is to provide a quick-start set for the Fathers for someone not interested in Schaff and relatively new to Logos (and also mostly interested in fathers that are relevant to Orthodoxy). I hope this accomplishes that goal.

Purchased individually, these volumes would cost $826 and change. The introductory price is $259.95 (through next Friday, Aug. 16), and will then increase to a regular price of $329.95.

Thank you for your patience, and thank you for your feedback on site issues, etc., as always! Yes

Orthodox Early Fathers Bundle (54 vols.)

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Lynden O. Williams

The introductory price is $259.95

The website is showing $213.64. Even better than what Gabe said.That is a forty six dollars difference.

Gabe Martini (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/514274#Comment_514274

The introductory price is $259.95

The website is showing $213.64. Even better than what Gabe said.That is a forty six dollars difference.

There is dynamic pricing (which caused the issues yesterday and over the weekend), so it will vary from user-to-user (depending on which volumes you own). Please let me know if you see any issues with this! [:)]

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/514276#Comment_514276

Ok. I have the two volumes by J. B. Lightfoot. That explains it.

Gabe Martini (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/514277#Comment_514277

Ok. I have the two volumes by J. B. Lightfoot. That explains it.

[Y]

David Ames

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/514276#Comment_514276

There is dynamic pricing (which caused the issues yesterday and over the weekend), so it will vary from user-to-user (depending on which volumes you own). Please let me know if you see any issues with this!

What is missing is that it does not show what we already have / what we will gain [bought it anyway]

Gabe Martini (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/514282#Comment_514282

What is missing is that it does not show what we already have / what we will gain [bought it anyway]

You're right, that would be a great feature. Hopefully that's something we can roll-out eventually.

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/514282#Comment_514282

What is missing is that it does not show what we already have / what we will gain [bought it anyway]

I already have the ECF in both Protestant and Catholic sets. I am wondering what is new to this set that is not included in those. I guess I will have to go through them all unless someone can tell me. I get a dynamic pricing quote of $62 but I don't know what it includes. Any help before I begin looking up each title?

Gabe Martini (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/514295#Comment_514295

What is missing is that it does not show what we already have / what we will gain [bought it anyway]

I already have the ECF in both Protestant and Catholic sets. I am wondering what is new to this set that is not included in those. I guess I will have to go through them all unless someone can tell me. I get a dynaic pricing quote of $62 but I doon't know what it includes. Any help before I begin looking up each title?

In short, these are all different translations from what is found in Schaff's edition, along with some volumes not included in Schaff.

For example, select works of Bede, Dionysius the Areopagite, several original Greek editions of Justin Martyr and Latin editions of Augustine, works on St. Patrick and his life, the Philocalia of Origen, some additional works from St. Ephraim the Syrian, additional works from St. Cyril of Alexandria, some works and sayings of the Desert Fathers, a few monastic Rules (Pachomius and Benedict), some additional material on Chrysostom and his preaching, as well as the Greek editions of the apostolic fathers.

David Ames

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/514295#Comment_514295

What is missing is that it does not show what we already have / what we will gain [bought it anyway]

I already have the ECF in both Protestant and Catholic sets. I am wondering what is new to this set that is not included in those. I guess I will have to go through them all unless someone can tell me. I get a dynaic pricing quote of $62 but I doon't know what it includes. Any help before I begin looking up each title?

That was my price and this is what downloaded

Martyr, Justin. “The Apologies of Justin Martyr, to Which Is Appended the Epistle to Diognetus.” New York: Harper & Brothers Publishers, 1877.

Chase, Frederic Henry. Chrysostom: A Study in the History of Biblical Interpretation. Cambridge: Deighton Bell and Co., 1887.

Moore, Herbert. The Dialogue of Palladius Concerning the Life of Chrysostom. Edited by W. J. Sparrow Simpson and W. K. Lowther Clarke. Translations of Christian Literature: Series I: Greek Texts. London: Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge, 1921.

Robertson, J. N. W. B., ed. The Divine Liturgies of Our Fathers Among the Saints John Chrysostom and Basil the Great with That of the Presanctified Preceded by the Hesperinos and the Orthros. London: David Nutt, 1894.

Robertson, J. N. W. B., ed. The Divine Liturgies of Our Fathers Among the Saints John Chrysostom and Basil the Great with That of the Presanctified: Greek Text. London: David Nutt, 1894.

Mason, A. J. Fifty Spiritual Homilies of St. Macarius the Egyptian. Translations of Christian Literature: Series I: Greek Texts. London: Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge, 1921.

John Chrysostom. Four Discourses of Chrysostom: Chiefly on the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus. Translated by F. Allen. London: Longmans, Green, Reader, and Dyer, 1869.

Harris, J. Rendel with Ephrem the Syrian. Fragments of the Commentary of Ephrem Syrus Upon the Diatessaron. London: C. J. Clay and Sons, 1895.

Martyr, Justin. “Justin Martyr’s Dialogue with Trypho: Greek Text with Notes.” Edited by W. Trollope. Cambridge: J. Hall, 1846–1847.

Clarke, W. K. Lowther. The Lausiac History of Palladius. Translations of Christian Literature: Series I: Greek Texts. London: Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge, 1918.

Perthes, Frederic M. Life of John Chrysostom, Based on the Investigations of Neander, Böhringer, and Others. Translated by Alvah Hovey and David B. Ford. Boston: John P. Jewett & Company, 1854.

Budge, Ernest A. Wallis, ed. The Paradise or Garden of the Holy Fathers, Volume I. London: Chatto & Windus, 1907.

Budge, Ernest A. Wallis, ed. The Paradise or Garden of the Holy Fathers, Volume II. London: Chatto & Windus, 1907.

Ohleyer, Leo Joseph. The Pauline Formula “Induere Christum” with Special Reference to the Works of St. John Chrysostom. Washington, D. C.: Catholic University of America, 1921.

Pachomius. The Rules of Pachomius. Edited by G. H. Shodde. New York: The Presbyterian Review Association, 1885.

Mitchell, C. W. S. Ephraim’s Prose Refutations of Mani, Marcion, and Bardaisan, Volume I. London: Williams and Norgate, 1912.

Mitchell, C. W., A. A. Bevan, and F. C. Burkitt. S. Ephraim’s Prose Refutations of Mani, Marcion, and Bardaisan, Volume II. London: Williams and Norgate, 1921.

Mitchell, C. W., A. A. Bevan, and F. C. Burkitt. S. Ephraim’s Prose Refutations of Mani, Marcion, and Bardaisan, Volume I (Syriac). London: Williams and Norgate, 1921.

Ephrem the Syrian. Select Metrical Hymns and Homilies of Ephraem Syrus. Translated by Henry Burgess. London: Robert B. Blackader, 1853.

John Chrysostom. Sermon on Alms. Translated by Margaret M. Sherwood. Vol. 10. Studies in Social Work. New York: The New York School of Philanthropy, 1917.

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/514276#Comment_514276

The introductory price is $259.95

The website is showing $213.64. Even better than what Gabe said.That is a forty six dollars difference.

There is dynamic pricing (which caused the issues yesterday and over the weekend), so it will vary from user-to-user (depending on which volumes you own). Please let me know if you see any issues with this!

I got a price of $16.33. This seems incredible, but I do already have ECF, Bede, Benedict's Holy Rule, Cyril, Dionysius, Early Egyptian Monasticism, Greek Ecclesiastical Historians, Justin Martyr, Medieval Preaching & Spirituality (which has some overlap), Origen's Philocalia, and perhaps more. So I guess it's not surprising. But way cool! I love dynamic pricing!

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/514353#Comment_514353

way cool! I love dynamic pricing!

Yes! My price is $21.46 - now I'm looking forward to what will be downloaded....

fgh

I believe that this is a more appropriate price point

So do I.[:)]

And now my button is grey as well.[:)]

If I may give one more piece of feedback, it would be that the little yellow 'Introductory pricing' box ought to be before the rest of the text. It needs to be visible without scrolling, or even when you're on a search page rather than the product page, or people may not see it before it's too late.

What is missing is that it does not show what we already have / what we will gain [bought it anyway]

You're right, that would be a great feature. Hopefully that's something we can roll-out eventually.

What would be very useful would be something like a button next to each individual resource in a collection, but serving two purposes:

Its colour would show if you owned that particular resource or not.
If you clicked on it, you'd be taken to the individual product page for that resource.

Currently it's very easy to go from a resource to a collection, but very complicated to go from a collection to the individual resources (you generally have to search for them one by one, which takes forever). And if, for example, you want three books in a collection of ten, and want to check out if the collection is nevertheless the better buy, then you do need to go from the collection page to the individual pages.

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/514453#Comment_514453

Thanks for the answers. I have determined this is a pretty good price for what new resources I would get. I assume the dynamic price goes up when the package price goes up.

Gabe Martini (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/514471#Comment_514471

Thanks for the answers. I have determined this is a pretty good price for what new resources I would get. I assume the dynamic price goes up when the package price goes up.

That is correct.

Milford Charles Murray

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/514353#Comment_514353

The introductory price is $259.95

The website is showing $213.64. Even better than what Gabe said.That is a forty six dollars difference.

There is dynamic pricing (which caused the issues yesterday and over the weekend), so it will vary from user-to-user (depending on which volumes you own). Please let me know if you see any issues with this!

I got a price of $16.33. This seems incredible, but I do already have ECF, Bede, Benedict's Holy Rule, Cyril, Dionysius, Early Egyptian Monasticism, Greek Ecclesiastical Historians, Justin Martyr, Medieval Preaching & Spirituality (which has some overlap), Origen's Philocalia, and perhaps more. So I guess it's not surprising. But way cool! I love dynamic pricing!

Peace to my Sisters and Brothers! Gabe, thanks much for your diligence and hard and very thorough labours. The more I know you ... the more I appreciate you ...

Rosie, I often need strength and Wisdom from the Holy Spirit of God to keep me from being jealous over some of the wonderful purchases that you've made from Logos over the years in which you shared the nitty-gritty of your experiences ......... your posts have been indeed helpful ....

Today I'm a bit shocked that finally I got a better price on a deal than Rosie did ...!!! Wow, eh??? *smile*

Sogol

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/514777#Comment_514777

Mine was the same as Milford's.

I paid $15.19, which consisted of just The Major Works of Justin Martyr in Greek (3 vols.).

However, that set usually goes for $59.95. Thus I got it for about 75% off.

Gabe Martini (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/514826#Comment_514826

Mine was the same as Milford's.

I paid $15.19, which consisted of just The Major Works of Justin Martyr in Greek (3 vols.).

However, that set usually goes for $59.95. Thus I got it for about 75% off.

That's great! [Y]

Gabe Martini (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/514777#Comment_514777

Gabe, thanks much for your diligence and hard and very thorough labours. The more I know you ... the more I appreciate you ...

You are far too kind, Milford. Enjoy!

mike

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/514861#Comment_514861

to Milford & Rosie .. how much have you actually spent total in order to have that low of dynamic pricing? ... I'm just calculating.. if you don't mind me asking. (also, did you buy here in logos or outside?)

Milford Charles Murray

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/514888#Comment_514888

to Milford & Rosie .. how much have you actually spent total in order to have that low of dynamic pricing? ... I'm just calculating.. if you don't mind me asking. (also, did you buy here in logos or outside?)

Peace, Mike! I grant you indeed that I have a tremendously extensive Logos Resources Library....

When I retired from Parish Ministry a few years ago, I donated my print library to one of our Church's Seminaries, even getting an income tax receipt (for "gifts in kind") from the institution recognised by Revenue Canada .....

So, I got a boost on my income tax ... meanwhile, I love to continue studying God's Word .....

Next to my family and my Christian Family in the congregation, my studies are the most important aspect of my life ..

I started my Logos Bible Software in the Spring of 1993 .. over 20 years ago!!! ......... my memory is a bit foggy ... I think it was Logos1.6 - I do know for sure I had the Logos 2.0 Scholars back around then or a little later (http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_2.0_Scholars_Library) (I was privileged to have had 9 years of studies for Pastoral Ministry after public high school .... so I've had language and theological training of all sorts! *smile*

I got on to Community Pricing early on also .... It's really quite sad for new Logos Bible Software users that so many of the great bargains are now gone, even though Community Pricing is booming! *smile*

Note: I am also regarding my Logos Library as an asset to be left behind properly when the Lord calls me Home! *smile*

My daughter who will be the Administrator of my Estate has already been advised not to neglect the value of my digital library.. *smile*

BTW, if Jesus comes sooner than than, well be it! *smile*

Mike Pettit

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/514826#Comment_514826

Mine was the same as Milford's.

I paid $15.19, which consisted of just The Major Works of Justin Martyr in Greek (3 vols.).

However, that set usually goes for $59.95. Thus I got it for about 75% off.

I paid $33 and all I got were Justin Martyr in Greek, I wonder why there is such a difference, was yours an academic price?

David Ames

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/515117#Comment_515117

I paid $33 and all I got were Justin Martyr in Greek, I wonder why there is such a difference, was yours an academic price?

Dynamic Pricing - Not sure how much credit you get for something you own but it does help pay for the upgrade - sometimes

Sogol

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/515117#Comment_515117

Mine was the same as Milford's.

I paid $15.19, which consisted of just The Major Works of Justin Martyr in Greek (3 vols.).

However, that set usually goes for $59.95. Thus I got it for about 75% off.

I paid $33 and all I got were Justin Martyr in Greek, I wonder why there is such a difference, was yours an academic price?

Hmmmmm. That's strange. No, I didn't get an academic price. Not sure why there was a difference.

Did your Logos download just two new resources once you bought it? That's what mine did. Even though the Justin Martyr collection is 3 volumes, I believe it comes in as just 2 resources.

Milford Charles Murray

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/515131#Comment_515131

Peace! ......... and it's very difficult indeed in Dialogue with Trypho to see where one volume ends and the other begins .... .... not that it matters a lot, eh??? *smile* Just for the sake of "neatness" I think it could have been better "marked" ...

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/514510#Comment_514510

Thanks for the answers. I have determined this is a pretty good price for what new resources I would get. I assume the dynamic price goes up when the package price goes up.
That is correct.

Heads up! Everyone. The introductory price for this Bundle goes up tomorrow. (What time? I don't know.) Even if you qualify for dynamic pricing, that will go up too. Go check it out now and decide for sure. I just ordered it.

Orthodox Early Fathers Bundle

Gabe Martini (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/516904#Comment_516904

Thanks for the answers. I have determined this is a pretty good price for what new resources I would get. I assume the dynamic price goes up when the package price goes up.
That is correct.

Heads up! Everyone. The introductory price for this Bundle goes up tomorrow. (What time? I don't know.) Even if you qualify for dynamic pricing, that will go up too. Go check it out now and decide for sure. I just ordered it.

Orthodox Early Fathers Bundle

Thank you. It will go up around 8 am Pacific Time, FWIW.