Some of the resources on this collection (http://www.logos.com/product/32713/zondervan-biblical-languages-collection) are well known to me (eg. Basics of Biblical Greek Grammar and Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics). However I'm wondering on usefulness of the remaining resources for Greek and Hebrew studies in comparison with other textbooks and grammars currently on the market.
Any input in appreciated. Thanks.
Some of the resources on this collection (http://www.logos.com/product/32713/zondervan-biblical-languages-collection) are well known to me (eg. Basics of Biblical Greek Grammar and Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics). However I'm wondering on usefulness of the remaining resources for Greek and Hebrew studies in comparison with other textbooks and grammars currently on the market. Any input in appreciated. Thanks.
Filipe,
Thank you for your question. When I first learnt Hebrew and Greek, Mounce and Van Pelt/Pratico were the grammars that I used, along with their corresponding workbooks. They are excellent tools for learning Greek! They are organized in a clear and concise way, so as to make learning the language fun and enjoyable. They present just enough information for the learner to be able to grasp the big picture, but also include more advance sections at the end if your want to really understand some of the nuts and bolts of Greek and Hebrew.
As for the rest of the resources, Zondervan has created a library of tools to help the learner progress from beginner to more advanced. Mounce's Graded Greek Reader (along with the corresponding Graded Hebrew Reader) is an excellent workbook to move to once one has finished Basics of Biblical Greek. Also, if you want to know more about how certain verbs form their principal parts (some of them get all funky) Mounce's Morphology of Biblical Greek serves as an useful reference tool to refer to when needed.
I could go on even further, but I hope you get my drift. This collection from Zondervan is meant to guide the learner from beginning to exegesis. I hope this better helps you to evaluate the usefulness of these excellent resources.
Cliff
@Filipe Moreira:
My view: as a bundle of textbooks, this contains good resources as well as some "fillers".
Good resources include those that might be used as standard texts in a formal course, e.g. BBG, BBH, GGBB.
Fillers are those that are strictly optional, or less helpful, e.g. Greek for the Rest of Us, English Grammar to Ace New Testament Greek.
I can't imagine anyone who would require every single resource in his journey of learning the languages, since the resources are produced with different target readers in mind, and offer highly overlapping content. That is why I (and quite a few others) hold the view that this bundle does not offer many advantages, other than the fact that there is no choice at this moment to buy the resources separately in Logos.
Then again, as you have noted, there are also other non-Zondervan texts out there, which are also good. Some of these are available on the Logos platform.
For me, this bundle contains far too much variety and overlap to be really useful to almost anyone. Therefore, I pass and wait until they break the bundle so I can purchase the few resources which really interest me.
Any input in appreciated. Thanks. For me, this bundle contains far too much variety and overlap to be really useful to almost anyone. Therefore, I pass and wait until they break the bundle so I can purchase the few resources which really interest me.
What he said
To be blunt, the bundle does not have the best interest of the potential buyers in mind (too much overlap and fillers to even pretend otherwise), it is above all a way to sell a bunch of resources to those who cannot wait and need some of the textbooks ASAP. I wonder why Logos is the only one to adopt the bundle route.
My advice is to wait until they break it up and purchase only what you need.
Thank you very much everyone for your input. While I do want some of the resource son this collection I have decided against buying it with the full collection. Hopefully they will put up some of these resources on sale soon!
Sorry to hear that Filipe.
I was going to suggest that you buy the whole collection. Keep the books you really want and give the others to me because I have the same problem as you.
Stephen Miller
Sydney Australia
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He wouldn't be able to, because he'd only be entitled to a "bundle" licence.
I cancelled the order for this after going throught his forum. I am learning Greek (trying to atleast) with print versions of BBG and the online site set up by Mounce.
There is a certain appeal to this bundle if you are on a path to learning all the languages yourself, plus the idea of digital workbooks are neat in themselves (I wonder if the workbook answers sync across devices and if the mobile apps support the Greek layouts well.)
That being said, I realize now that I was paying a ton of money dependent on my own willingness and ability to learn.
Since this is in production anyway, perhaps there will be a breaking up of this bundle (even perhaps into smaller bundles like Greek 101 etc.)
Till then, I am thankful to the advice on this thread.
I was going to suggest that you buy the whole collection. Keep the books you really want and give the others to me because I have the same problem as you. He wouldn't be able to, because he'd only be entitled to a "bundle" licence.
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