Author Name Misspelled

Jim Julian
Jim Julian Member Posts: 13
edited November 20 in English Forum

Logos Book:  The Historie of England

Author:  Raphaell Holinshed

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  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,512

    I'm not sure if it is misspelled or not. Spelling in those days was "dynamic." Do you think it should have one "l" or two?

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  • NB.Mick
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    Logos Book:  The Historie of England

    Author:  Raphaell Holinshed

    Jim, 

    it seems you are referring to the spelling of the author's first name in several works from the Perseus collection . Most have it Raphaell (such as logosres:history2;art=title , whereas logosres:history1;art=title has Raphael only. 

    I'm not sure, though, where exactly is the misspelling. Holinshed lived in the 16th century and it may well have been that he wrote his name Raphaell (or even differently on different occasions). Most references to him are now as Raphael. However, Logos should have it consistent.

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • JT (alabama24)
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    NB.Mick said:

    Logos should have it consistent.

    Logos should have it consistent with the print book! It is entirely possible that his name was spelled differently in different books! 

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  • NB.Mick
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    Either way, I put an entry to http://wiki.logos.com/Metadata_correction_proposals since this is the place where Logos reacts to those things.

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • NB.Mick
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    alabama24 said:

    NB.Mick said:

    Logos should have it consistent.

    Logos should have it consistent with the print book! It is entirely possible that his name was spelled differently in different books! 

    IMO, Logos should list one author consistently with one spelling in the library metadata. The book itself should look like the edition that is cited. 

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • JT (alabama24)
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    NB.Mick said:

    IMO, Logos should list one author consistently with one spelling in the library metadata. The book itself should look like the edition that is cited.

    I'm unsure about that... I agree that it would be nice to have the author's writings grouped together. I would certainly want the bibliographic information to reflect the paper book. If that causes the books to not be grouped together, so be it... (Then we can complain about that [:P].) 

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  • Todd Phillips
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    alabama24 said:

    NB.Mick said:

    IMO, Logos should list one author consistently with one spelling in the library metadata. The book itself should look like the edition that is cited.

    I'm unsure about that... I agree that it would be nice to have the author's writings grouped together. I would certainly want the bibliographic information to reflect the paper book. If that causes the books to not be grouped together, so be it... (Then we can complain about that Stick out tongue.) 

    I believe it is Logos policy to have a canonical name for each author.  I don't have any reference for this.  It was discussed long ago.  However, you can see it by looking at John MacArthur's books.  The metadata used to be all over the place as it was whatever the book said (John MacArthur, John MacArthur Jr., John F. MacArthur), but now the library window just has "MacArthur, John F., Jr.". 

    If you look at the Info Pane in the library, the Author Name at the top is often different than the one in the Citation at the bottom.  I'm guessing that Logos maintains two Author fields (one canonical, and one for citation). For example, his book How to Meet the Enemy has "MacArthur, John F., Jr." in the library listing, but just "MacArthur, John" in the citation.

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  • JT (alabama24)
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    If you look at the Info Pane in the library, the Author Name at the top is often different than the one in the Citation at the bottom.  I'm guessing that Logos maintains two Author fields (one canonical, and one for citation). 

    That would be fine by me (it's great, actually!) ... but a search for the alternate spelling should still pull up the author.

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  • fgh
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    alabama24 said:

    If that causes the books to not be grouped together, so be it... (Then we can complain about that Stick out tongue.) 

    We did. That's presumably why they changed. The new standard is to have one, and only one, spelling in the author column (which is definitely how I want it), while the citations should follow the print (which is also as it should be). 

    One current error I reported recently concerns Jerome, who shows up in my library as both 'Jerome', 'Jerome, Saint', and 'Saint Jerome'. Not fun if you're trying to find all his writings!

    Unfortunately, the citation part of the info panel isn't searched by the Library find box (so filtering for "Wright, Tom" gives 0 results[:(]). I've complained about that before. I'll look for the thread later and use this as an additional argument for a design change.

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