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This is a very helpful review. Thanks for taking the time to let us know how the new kindle works. I look forward to hearing more about pdf exporting.
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I'm in total agreement with Paul's recent post. He beat me to the punch, but his review is even better than the one I had. Thanks, Paul!
The Kindle 3 is very nice to use, and in my opinion, it is worth getting a Kindle 3 just to use for Logos. I have been pleasantly surprised at how well it has performed.
I also agree that the website could (or should) be updated to use with Kindle. Switching pages can be a bit cumbersome, but it's "almost" there. Like Paul said, if entire chapters or an entire book could load, then it would be very easy.
I have already emailed Logos to suggest that they update their website to work with Kindle, and I hope that you all do, too. On the WiFi, it performs very well. Granted, we would all use a computer for research, but for reading extended portions of books, library.logos.com on a Kindle is nearly perfect. All it needs is one tweak...
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I wouldn't really suggest reading PDF's on the Kindle. It is better to drag and drop a text file, or if you have a PDF, convert it to Amazon's .azw format. It is easier to read than a PDF.
On the Kindle DX, though, PDF's would be easy and awesome. That would be the way to go if you plan on lots of PDF's.
Joel
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Kevin, Can you actually just copy the book material and put it in Word and then email it to Kindle?
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What I do is export what I want to read as an html document and then I add chapter links and e-mail it to my free kindle address. Unfortunately, I think I can only get 100 pages at a time. So for longer books it takes several rounds. Anyway, the idea of having a kindle for me is to be able to read my material when I am on the road and do not have access to the internet.
The spirit of a pilgrim greatly facilitates praying. An earth-bound, earth-satisfied spirit cannot pray.--E. M. Bounds
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BRIAN, CAN YOU TELL HOW DO YOU ADD CHAPTER LINKS IN EXPORTING.
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PASTOR DONG C.TELAN said:
BRIAN, CAN YOU TELL HOW DO YOU ADD CHAPTER LINKS IN EXPORTING.
One way is to export to Word
Create the links
>select text
>Ctrl K
>Create Bookmark
>Link to the bookmarkSave Doc
Load into Calibre (free software) and create MOBI file.
This would make an ebook readable on the Kindle but is alot of work and is, in my befuddled brain, a gray area regarding digital rights.Making a chapter or two, or a days worth of reading into a PDF or MOBI and then deleting the files after reading on the Kindle when away from the PC and internet would eliminate much need for links and troubles my conscience little.
Hope that helps.
Rejoice in this Lord's day
rob
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The best thing about reading Logos books on the Kindle is the ablity of the Kindle to read them out loud with its text-to-speech feature. I have listened to several of my Logos books while driving to and from work.
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Bill Gordon said:
The best thing about reading Logos books on the Kindle is the ablity of the Kindle to read them out loud with its text-to-speech feature. I have listened to several of my Logos books while driving to and from work.
Definitely. I am finishing my last year of seminary, and with an hour commute, the Kindle has saved my behind. The text-to-speech feature allowed me to read hundreds of pages (or rather, listen to them) while driving.I'd also add that the page quality is clearer and of better quality than most print books. Especially in sun light, the Kindle is so easy on my easy. I was surprised that it performs better in the light. It does not shine like some papers do.
- joel
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Bill Gordon said:
The best thing about reading Logos books on the Kindle is the ablity of the Kindle to read them out loud with its text-to-speech feature
Wait. How do you do this? from Biblia?
EDIT: Disregard. I reviewed the discussion and saw your previous post.
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Agreed. Its not a case of Librinox 'competing' with Amazon.
I have a Kindle. I have Logos (on mac). Its a 'no brainer' to want to be able to read Logos great resources on a portable device designed for reading. I just want to read, not markup or fiddle or search; just read. I then want to be able to use that knowledge I gained, in sermon preparation which I do back in Logos on the macbook.
At the moment, I have to either:
1) use the trapdoor (non-optimised) route of browsing for my logos resources on the Kindle, or
2) dump out my Logos resources to MS Word (bit by bit), then save as PDF (or use Calibre eBook management), then import to Kindle. Not a low-maintenance solution!
If Logos resources were all available in Kindle format (to Logos customers), then I'd purchase more resources through Logos, rather than deciding to wait for them to be kindle-ised (via amazon), or go the poor customer just wants the obvious but can't get it route above.
Librinox will lose out unless they go multi-format, and they will gain customer loyalty and more revenues if they open out to Kindle. The lock-in that Librinox has is the license cost of the resource and the software. I've paid for that, now I'm politely 'demanding' Kindle format Logos resources. Thanks.
Does anyone know, meanwhile, whether there is a 3rd party logos-to-kindle batch converter? (not to pdf, but to native kindle) I'd pay $25 for that, as long as it was kept up to date with format changes either end. If not, then where is the commercial restriction? Who is not opening up the formats via an SDK? I guess Amazon see loss of revenue if they let Librinox at it for free. So, what do Amazon charge for an SDK? This would be a small development and testing project for a professional software operation to undertake... Do Librinox want to sub it out?
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I agree, Justin. I have many Logos resources that I want to read simply for edification. I use Logos for research, but I'm not real thrilled to read a resource on my Lenovo notebook. Reading on a Logos-loaded iPad may be good, but I don't have a real need to spend $500 or whatever for an iPad. I already have more Logos pre-pubs than I can afford! Being able to read many of my Logos resources on Kindle, without involved work-arounds, would be ideal. Until then, I'll have to learn to do the work-around.
Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC
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Bill Moore said:
I'll have to learn to do the work-around
The workaround isn't terrible. I am reading 1-2 chapters of Grudem's ST with other pastors weekly. It only takes a minute to copy a chapter, paste to Word and email to kindle. It makes for a really nice read. The major drawbacks for me are the lack of links to the biblical text and the lack of Hebrew font (Greek comes through).
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Justin Smith said:
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Librinox will lose out unless they go multi-format, and they will gain customer loyalty and more revenues if they open out to Kindle. The lock-in that Librinox has is the license cost of the resource and the software. I've paid for that, now I'm politely 'demanding' Kindle format Logos resources. Thanks.
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It will depend on what the license agreement is. It seems some publishers may want to charge Logos a license for each copy of each book in each format ... so if a user wanted it on Logos desktop and on iPhone and on Kindle that cou;ld be more than one license to pay. ... I assume ...
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How do you get logos books into your kindle? I run mine on an ipad and it would be amazing to do that.
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Josh Reich said:
How do you get logos books into your kindle? I run mine on an ipad and it would be amazing to do that.
If have iPad, recommend using free Logos application to read Logos licensed resources along with Kindle application to read Kindle licensed books and Nook application to read Nook licensed books - all 3 applications support downloading books for offline reading.
Earlier in this thread are steps for creating a document for use in Kindle => http://community.logos.com/forums/p/5094/81275.aspx#81275 along with copyright discussion since Logos licensing does not include Kindle use. Likewise Kindle e-book licensing does not include Logos (nor Nook); Nook also does not license books for use by Logos or Kindle.
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I just got a Kindle recently (I also have an iPad). One advantage the Kindle has is that it can read books to you. This is very handy at times. For instance, I was near the end of a chapter in a book on my Kindle the other day, but needed to be somewhere later. Although I was very into the book, I had to go. So while driving, I plugged my headphones into the Kindle and let it read the rest of the chapter to me. This is a great feature that is simply not available on the iPad. Yes, there are universal access settings on the iPad that will read text, but it is screen by screen. The Kindle will continue to read a book to you until you either stop it or the book ends.
Since I just got my Kindle, I'm still learning what works best on it, and what doesn't. Although some Logos books can be accessed through the Kindle's experimental browser, the Kindle doesn't read web pages.
The better solution is the one that's been described before. Simply copy the text of a book from your computer to a Word document and send it to your Kindle's email address. You can either read that document normally as you would with a regular Kindle book or you can have your Kindle read it to you. It's really great.
As for the discussions last year about copyright, those are all red herrings. The kind of personal use I just described is protected under the fair use provisions of US copyright laws.
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OK, I'm convinced, I'm going to buy a Kindle. Can you give me some advice. I live in Europe, Latvia. Is it possible for me to buy a Kindle from America? Or will I have problems with charging the batteries? Or other problems maybe?
Mat 6:33
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A.A. van der Leij said:
OK, I'm convinced, I'm going to buy a Kindle. Can you give me some advice. I live in Europe, Latvia. Is it possible for me to buy a Kindle from America? Or will I have problems with charging the batteries? Or other problems maybe?
This may help: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003DZ1Y7M. You can select Latvia in the "Primary Country of Use." I have been extremely pleased with my Kindle.
Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC
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I read somewhere and can't find it now, that you have 2 addresses on Kindle. one; ***@kindle.com and the other: ***@free.kindle.com. What I can't work out is how I create the address at free.kindle.com. If I want kindle to convert files to kindle format, will they do it for free at free.kindle.com? Or do I need to send them to kindle..com? I can't find any instructions anywhere on kindle site or in user manual. They may be there, but are well hidden! Can anyone advise me? The PDFs are not too comfortable for my ageing eyes to read... [:(]
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nicky crane said:
I read somewhere and can't find it now, that you have 2 addresses on Kindle. one; ***@kindle.com and the other: ***@free.kindle.com. What I can't work out is how I create the address at free.kindle.com. If I want kindle to convert files to kindle format, will they do it for free at free.kindle.com? Or do I need to send them to kindle..com? I can't find any instructions anywhere on kindle site or in user manual. They may be there, but are well hidden! Can anyone advise me? The PDFs are not too comfortable for my ageing eyes to read...
Calibre is a freeware ebook software that can convert many formats, choosing mobi will put it in native kindle format.
-Dan
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nicky crane said:
I read somewhere and can't find it now, that you have 2 addresses on Kindle. one; ***@kindle.com and the other: ***@free.kindle.com. What I can't work out is how I create the address at free.kindle.com. If I want kindle to convert files to kindle format, will they do it for free at free.kindle.com? Or do I need to send them to kindle..com? I can't find any instructions anywhere on kindle site or in user manual. They may be there, but are well hidden! Can anyone advise me? The PDFs are not too comfortable for my ageing eyes to read...
You only need to use the *.free.kindle.com if you have a 3G wireless + WiFI Kindle and don't want to be charged for the delivery of a document over 3G. It is the same as your regular kindle email, but you simply add the "free" to it. It will automatically download when you next connect via WiFi.
If you only have the wifi Kindle, don't worry about it. You only need the one address to send your files.
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Forum discussion http://community.logos.com/forums/p/27872/221482.aspx#221482 includes Logos EULA - appears transferring Logos content to Kindle violates 3 items listed in EULA "THINGS YOU MAY NOT DO"
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The answer is that anything you send to ***@free.kindle.com will be converted for free and sent to your email account of record. There is also free software you can use that will convert books or text to the kindle format. Forum rules prevent me from posting a link to this software, but search for "calibre" on Google and click on the top result.
nicky crane said:I read somewhere and can't find it now, that you have 2 addresses on Kindle. one; ***@kindle.com and the other: ***@free.kindle.com. What I can't work out is how I create the address at free.kindle.com. If I want kindle to convert files to kindle format, will they do it for free at free.kindle.com? Or do I need to send them to kindle..com? I can't find any instructions anywhere on kindle site or in user manual. They may be there, but are well hidden! Can anyone advise me? The PDFs are not too comfortable for my ageing eyes to read...
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Forum discussion http://community.logos.com/forums/p/27872/221482.aspx#221482 includes Logos EULA - appears transferring Logos content to Kindle violates 3 items listed in EULA "THINGS YOU MAY NOT DO"
Bob Pritchett offers insight - no official Logos position about content on Kindle => http://community.logos.com/forums/p/27872/223644.aspx#223644
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Robert Balsinger said:PASTOR DONG C.TELAN said:
BRIAN, CAN YOU TELL HOW DO YOU ADD CHAPTER LINKS IN EXPORTING.
One way is to export to Word
Create the links
>select text
>Ctrl K
>Create Bookmark
>Link to the bookmarkThere is another way to create links in your word docs. If someone is interested in the details let me know. Basically, export from Logos to Word. Find a distinguishing characteristic about the Chapter headings (e.g. 24 pt font) and do a Find/replace for all text that meet those characteristics. Replace it with the "Heading 1" style. If you want to do sub-headings for that resource do the same thing (e.g. bold italic 12pt.) and replace it all with "Heading 2" style. Now create a Table of Contents for your document and word will automatically link to chapters and sub-headings.
If anyone wants more detailed instructions on one of these steps, please let me know.
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Nice work. Thanks for sharing!
Does anyone have any tips for the fastest way to export text to Word? Do you have to highlight and scroll, or is there a better way?
- Joel
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Thanks for this information. I've nicely converted a Logos book to Kindle, with a table on contents. I've even been able to get the real author mentioned, which I'm happy about.
What I still would like is to move between the chapters by using the right button on the five-point button. Does anyone know how to do this?
I wasn't able to sent the word 2007, neither the word 1997/2003 file (docx and doc) to my kindle, so i used Mobipocket instead.
Mat 6:33
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A.A. van der Leij said:
Thanks for this information. I've nicely converted a Logos book to Kindle, with a table on contents. I've even been able to get the real author mentioned, which I'm happy about.
What I still would like is to move between the chapters by using the right button on the five-point button. Does anyone know how to do this?
I wasn't able to sent the word 2007, neither the word 1997/2003 file (docx and doc) to my kindle, so i used Mobipocket instead.
I set my page size to 4 X 5.5. This way there is no zooming. I then save the word doc as a pdf and email it to the Kindle. While the table of contents is not linked when I do this, the page numbers are listed so I simply say "go to the beginning of the book" and then punch the page number listed in the table of contents to go to that heading. I've never tried the Mobipocket route though. when I do the PDF the normal page buttons on the Kindle work nicely and it feels very much like a kindle book. I can even bookmark, highlight, share, and perform dictionary lookups.
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I'm new to LOGOS and have been reading through the forums. I am wanting to buy a Kindle, JUST TO READ the books and not do work....
Is this possible? It seems like, from what was said, that books need to be copied into a word format before transferring to Kindle. Is this still true? How much of a hassle is it?
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Which Kindle are you looking at? The Fire might be able to run the android app, but I am unsure at this time. As far as regular Kindles go, Logos does NOT provide any support for converting books. If you aren't worried about legal issues, you can try the advice above.
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I do it quit regularly, either parts of the book or the whole book.
Just select the whole text (sometimes it needs to be done in 2 or 3 times, because the text is too large to do it in in time), copy it, and paste it in word.
The next thing I do, is create a table of contents in word. 1.st make the chapternames 'heading 1' and if you want you can make subsections 'heading 2'. Then create the table of contents. The reason I do this, is so that you can in Kindle, to the table of contents, and then jump to the chapter you want. It also makes it possible to use the five-way control on your kindle.Next, what you can do, is download a copy of the cover of your book (just look for it in google pictures) and add it at the beginning of your word document. In that way you have your cover too, if you like that kind of thing.
Unformtunately, you cannot see the author of the book on your kindle list, even if you have entered the info in your word document. It will show up with your email adress as author.
If you would like to have the author name, then you could use free programas like mobi pocket or calibre, but if you do that, then you can't use the five way control.
So, it's not that difficult, takes maybe 15 minutes or so.
Good luck and have fun with your Kindle
Mat 6:33
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I just use the experimental web browser on the Kindle, go to www.biblia.com, choose the mobile version link, sign into my account, and then click on the book in my library that I want to read. I enlarge the fonts and enjoy the book. It is very simple and useful to me. Of course, you have to be online via WiFi or 3G. I have what is now called the Kindle Keyboard with WiFi/3G, so I can access my Logos library virtually anywhere.
Unfortunately, if what I've read is correct, Amazon has stripped the 3G capability of the soon-to-be-released Kindle Touch WiFi/3G to only the Amazon Store and Wikipedia. Still, your Logos books can be accessed via WiFi.
Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC
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Used to use kindle for my message notes before I got an iPad. Wrote in word saved as either word doc or PDF then emailed to kindle email account. Synced with kindle then voila read.
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I thought it did with the Vyrso app or do you mean a physical device?
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Andre Daley said:
I thought it did with the Vyrso app or do you mean a physical device?
Andre - When you are replying to someone, it is often helpful to quote them so that there is some context. If you need to learn how to do this, see "Quote Someone" below my post.
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If you are looking for a reader for your Logos 4 books, Vyrso fills the role of a casual reader very nicely. I know it has an Android version, I use it for reading every day. Very nice to have the book open to where I left off as soon as I open the app. There is probably also an iOS version, I don't know, I don't use Apple anything.
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Hi Craig, I have Vyrso on my ipad, and you are correct, it is also avaialable as Android. It is not avaialable from the Amazon/Kindle store, however, but you can sideload it onto your Kindle Fire. Note also, the above thread is about 1 year old, so some of the discussion and relevance may be outdated. Thanks for posting, and welcome! I also like reading my books on Vyrso. Currently I am reading "Red Letter Christians" by Campolo and Claiborne, as well as Jesus: A Theography by Leonard Sweet and Frank Viola, both purchased through Vyrso. I take notes on them as well, and I love that it transfers into my Logos use, too.
I like Apples. Especially Honeycrisp.
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Dan, there is a difference between the kindle fire and other kindles. The use of Vyrso does not help. On the regular old Kindle the text is more like a book and easier for the eyes. This is the big advantage of the kindle. Outside of that, everything can be done on a tablet.
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Jeffrey Visser said:
Dan, there is a difference between the kindle fire and other kindles. The use of Vyrso does not help. On the regular old Kindle the text is more like a book and easier for the eyes. This is the big advantage of the kindle. Outside of that, everything can be done on a tablet.
Jeffrey — I'm not quite sure what you are responding to... But this thread is quite old. You revived a thread whose last post was nearly a year ago. Dan responded to someone who revived the thread from a year before that! [;)]
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Yep, I was hoping to revive the original need to have something to download a version I can copy onto my kindle. The need is still there. Since posting I have found a newer one with a similar topic. I, also, wanted to correct the notion that kindle fire= kindle access. Kindle fire= android access not kindle access and the need to copy to the kindle is still there....
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Jeffrey Visser said:
I was hoping to revive the original need to have something to download a version I can copy onto my kindle.
… but a "kindle" doesn't run ANY apps!
Logos is looking into creating a conversion tool, but there are no guarantees that it will happen. Even if it does happen, it would not be like "running a Logos App on the Kindle…" Rather, it would be "reading Logos/Vyrso resources on your e-ink kindle device, with any note taking capabilities remaining on your Kindle device."
NOTE: You can convert your Logos resources for Kindle now if you are industrious enough.
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I understand that there are not apps on the kindle. I am not looking for that. I do, on occasion, move a book or portion of a book to my kindle. It would be great if Logos would facilitate the download to create a kindle formatted book so I didn't need to do it manually.
Since there is a work around for this, in my opinion, it is second to the need to use personal books across devices so that I can efficiently use my kindle books in Logos.
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Well there ARE kindle apps of a sort, but they are nothing like apps for iPhone/Android which are full programs. I have, for example, a couple of simple games on my kindle paperwhite, which my kids play on trips.alabama24 said:… but a "kindle" doesn't run ANY apps!
Just clarifying needlessly.[8-)]
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Jeffrey Visser said:
It would be great if Logos would facilitate the download to create a kindle formatted book so I didn't need to do it manually.
There is hope this is coming! http://community.logos.com/forums/p/70216/487930.aspx#487930
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