Goodbye, Logos

Just got my Obamacare bill in the mail yesterday. Starting in December, my healthcare premiums go up $500 per month in order to cover just three people. That's an extra $6,000 per year in case you are mathematically challenged. Of course, we could always opt for the "free" government health care ... but then the taxes would take the hit.

So ... goodbye PrePubs. Goodbye, CP bids. Goodbye, Logos ... my library is now frozen.

Three thoughts before I leave ...

1) O My people! Their oppressors are children (Is 3:12)

2) How long, O Lord? (Hab 1:2)

3) Even so, come, Lord Jesus. (Revelation 22:20)

JRS ... signing off.

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Geo Philips

Sorry. Cannot figure out whether this is sarcasm or not.

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/529262#Comment_529262

Sorry. Cannot figure out whether this is sarcasm or not.

Just wait a few weeks and we will know..[O]

Mike Childs

We do not know how this will play out, nor what all will feel the impact of Obamacare. Interesting times, and no doubt some surprises ahead.

Butters

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/529265#Comment_529265

I've been an activist for many years against this hyper-partisan, poorly designed and utterly destructive legislation.

Please call your Senators today and ask them to oppose Cloture.

Geo Philips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/529274#Comment_529274

As a Canadian and fellow Christian, what is the Christian opposition to this piece of legislation? Is there any? As someone who has no stake in this personally, please feel free not to answer. I am just asking for my information.

I've been an activist for many years against this hyper-partisan, poorly designed and utterly destructive legislation.

Please call your Senators today and ask them to oppose Cloture.

Ray from Faithlife

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/529277#Comment_529277

Friendly reminder: the Logos forum is not the place for debates either theological or political.

David Thomas

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/529292#Comment_529292

Friendly reminder: the Logos forum is not the place for debates either theological or political.

I agree. I suggest this thread get locked or deleted before decorum descends.

Butters

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/529292#Comment_529292

I'd be glad to chat with anyone about this off the board; my wife is running a Congressional Campaign at the moment (5th district, a Nanophysicist from Harvard), and one of their themes is the local effects this Bill is having on medical technology innovation. So I'm seeing this Bill from many different angles.

Cheer,

~Butters [:#]

mistermicawber at mac

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/529277#Comment_529277

As a Canadian and fellow Christian, what is the Christian opposition to this piece of legislation? Is there any?

There is significant opposition (from Christians and non-Christians alike.) This issue is very divisive n the United States which is why we ought to avoid discussing it in the Logos forums. (forum guidelines, you know)

There are several Logos resources that address social justice and socialism, if you are interested in Biblical arguments pro and con.

Butters

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/529297#Comment_529297

There are several Logos resources that address social justice and socialism, if you are interested in Biblical arguments pro and con.

Actually, Super Tramp I'd be interested in those if you have their titles handy?

~Butters [:)]

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/529299#Comment_529299

There are several Logos resources that address social justice and socialism, if you are interested in Biblical arguments pro and con.

Actually, Super Tramp I'd be interested in those if you have their titles handy?

I will have to search them out again . I have an interest in these but my wish lists are so long I did not add them to it. I do know there is one collection in CP or Pre-Pub and about three more coections already published. I'll look.

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/529305#Comment_529305

I will keep looking and add them to this post as I find them. Here is what I have so far:

Geo Philips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/529292#Comment_529292

Friendly reminder: the Logos forum is not the place for debates either theological or political.

Sorry Ray. Got carried away.

Logos forums is the only place where I find the breadth and depth of Christians necessary to engage in such discussions without being tied to one viewpoint.

Perhaps someone can move this to Faithlife??

Butters

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/529313#Comment_529313

Thanks Super Tramp - really appreciate it. [Y]

~Butters [:)]

Keith Larson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/529313#Comment_529313

Just a friendly reminder. No need to say "Goodbye", the usefulness of Logos and the blessings we receive from the software is not determined by the size of our library. Even the smallest base package gives us capabilities former generations could not even dream of. Sometimes we forget how blessed we truly are.

As for the precipitating issue God covered this very well thousands of years ago: "Thou shall not steal." and "Thou shall have not other God." God's Law give amazing clarity if we would only allow it to renew our minds. (Rom. 12:2)

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/529327#Comment_529327

I hope that you are simply being sarcastic JRS and that Logos will still have a place in your priorities.

David Ames

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/529274#Comment_529274

I've been an activist for many years against this hyper-partisan, poorly designed and utterly destructive legislation.

Please call your Senators today and ask them to oppose Cloture.

One MAJOR problem with the new rules is that in the US if you are of party A and you are known to talk to a member of party B you lose your job.

Party A and party B are NOT allowed to work together to find a good fix to anything. Jesus is coming and He better get here soon.

(‾◡◝)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/529336#Comment_529336

I hope that you are simply being sarcastic JRS and that Logos will still have a place in your priorities.

Sorry. No sarcasm/mockery/wringing of the hands/acrimony/scorn/disparagement/etc. intended ... just realistic resolve. I will, of course, continue to use Logos but any future purchases are basically gone. Since the disposable income/savings of America has now been earmarked by others, I genuinely fear for the future of Logos.

As they say, it is what it is ... or to be more precise, it is what has been foreordained. [:)]

Ken McGuire

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/529339#Comment_529339

One MAJOR problem with the new rules is that in the US if you are of party A and you are known to talk to a member of party B you lose your job.

Party A and party B are NOT allowed to work together to find a good fix to anything. Jesus is coming and He better get here soon.

Yeah -- I think we are suffering an unintended consequence of some Watergate reforms. Since everything has to be done in an open meeting, it makes it hard for people to have any cover for making a deal so things can get done.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/529336#Comment_529336

I hope that you are simply being sarcastic JRS and that Logos will still have a place in your priorities.

As has been said, the forums are not the place for political discussions. From a practical standpoint, however, an extra expense of $500 a month for ANY reason would certainly hamper "discretionary spending."

abondservant

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/529355#Comment_529355

I am unfortunately in the same boat. 500$ a month will mean pretty big problems if this is indeed what comes to pass.

I was reading that the "bronze" package will be 58$ monthly for a family of four. If that ends up being true, then perhaps this will be the route I take out of necessity.

Eric Weiss

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/529378#Comment_529378

Fasting is a neglected and very beneficial Christian discipline. (If you want some good advice or practice, go visit your local Eastern Orthodox Church and ask for their yearly Calendar with feast-day/fast-day instructions.) With a few basic food choice changes and some regular meal reductions, one should be able to cut back significantly on one's food bill, enhance one's physical and spiritual health, and have the funds to keep buying Logos resources. [H]

Gabe Martini (Faithlife)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/529379#Comment_529379

Fasting is a neglected and very beneficial Christian discipline. (If you want some good advice or practice, go visit your local Eastern Orthodox Church and ask for their yearly Calendar with feast-day/fast-day instructions.)

I like the way you think.

Wild Eagle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/529350#Comment_529350

When I budget my finances, I prioritize my expenses. I think you could cut some $ from Logos and from something else, and still ending up with keeping $30, $60, or $100 budget for Logos.

Yesterday, I noticed that I spend to much on Logos and limited my budget $60 per month. Will see how it works, if I do financially well, I will increase it...

This feature will help me to manage my money:

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