Japanese Bible in Libronix?
Is there any chance of getting a LOGOS version of the Bile in Japanese?
Back in the '90s LOGOS did publish & marketed their software package in Japan. (Anbody have one they will sell?)
Then, like men will do, there arose a big copyright contest that somehow made all digital versions of the Bible in Japanese disappear. It seems strange that we have multiple Chinese, Korean & other ideographic versions available but not one Japanese version. Has anyone successfully ported one into Lirbonix? Can Personal Book Builder accomplish this with any functionality?
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I agree that it would be great to have a Japanese Bible in Libronix. As for PBB, it's unicode based so you should be able to do it, but you'd have to have the source file and make sure it was in a unicode compatible Japanese font, as far as I can understand. But there are certainly other scripts in PBB, so there shouldn't be structural barriers.
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NathanielPorter said:
I agree that it would be great to have a Japanese Bible in Libronix. As for PBB, it's unicode based so you should be able to do it, but you'd have to have the source file and make sure it was in a unicode compatible Japanese font, as far as I can understand. But there are certainly other scripts in PBB, so there shouldn't be structural barriers.
Just make sure when you do pbb Bible that you do not use bigger HTML files than one Bible book. FOr some Bible books like Psalm it is even better to make them in a few HTML files. ALso you have to understand pbb BIble is not "full blood" libronix BIble. It serves the basic purpose, but you are limited with all the limits pbb has (no Visual Markups, no BIble search, just regular one, no insert to MSWord via Macro, no possibility to use it as your default Bible etc.) That is why I ask Logos so much to put our Czech Bibles (and other European translations) to Logos. The diference of the functionality is just too big.
Bohuslav
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Matthew C Jones said:
Is there any chance of getting a LOGOS version of the Bile in Japanese?
Back in the '90s LOGOS did publish & marketed their software package in Japan. (Anbody have one they will sell?)
Then, like men will do, there arose a big copyright contest that somehow made all digital versions of the Bible in Japanese disappear. It seems strange that we have multiple Chinese, Korean & other ideographic versions available but not one Japanese version. Has anyone successfully ported one into Lirbonix? Can Personal Book Builder accomplish this with any functionality?
Answering one's own post just feels wrong but here goes anyway............
I just noticed one of the "other" Bible software companies has added a second Japanese Bible version to their package. So there are now two make that three English-based Bible software companies offering three Japanese language versions. [<:o)] Japan has roughly 130 million people. Since Japan is still vastly non-Christian by the loosest definiftion of the label and in need of evangelization I think ithere is truly a need to have a Japanese Bible version available in Logos. Sure missionaries could opt for the "other" guy's software but why make them settle for second best? Although the numbers are miniscule, Japaese Biblical scholarship has achieved a remarkably high level. There are several good translations now available and something could probably be licensed in spite of past quarrels. "KEEP HOPE ALIVE!" [:D]
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I know that we've done work with the Japanese Bible Society, including a reverse interlinear of the "NIT" text of the New Testament.
I don't know Japanese, but you can see some screenshots of the product at the below link. I'd guess you could purchase directly from the Japan Bible Society.
http://www.bible.or.jp/purchase/newbible/greece.html
(scroll down at that link to see screen captures)
Hope it helps,
Rick Brannan
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Wow, congratulations, it looks you got your Bible. All Bible translations of all languages should be in Logos. That is THE resource. (I am still waiting to hear from Logos about the Czech Bibles [:)] )
Bohuslav
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Rick Brannan said:
I know that we've done work with the Japanese Bible Society, including a reverse interlinear of the "NIT" text of the New Testament.
I don't know Japanese, but you can see some screenshots of the product at the below link. I'd guess you could purchase directly from the Japan Bible Society.
http://www.bible.or.jp/purchase/newbible/greece.html
(scroll down at that link to see screen captures)
Hope it helps,
Rick Brannan[<:o)]
Logos Bible SoftwareThank You, Thank You, THANK YOU! This is so much nicer than the alternatives.
I "got people there." Now I will get them on it. [<:o)] WooHoo! [<:o)] [^] [C]
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Rick,
Is there a reverse interlinear for Chinese CUV? (sorry for hijacking this thread)
JK
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The Japanese NT Reverse Interlinear is the only Asian language reverse interlinear at present. We also have a Spanish reverse interlinear (RVR60) for OT and NT, but no Chinese.
Rick Brannan
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Bohuslav Wojnar said:
Wow, congratulations, it looks you got your Bible. All Bible translations of all languages should be in Logos. That is THE resource. (I am still waiting to hear from Logos about the Czech Bibles
)Yes, I'm happy. Also, look what I found http://www.logos.com/products/groups/allitems/cs
I know you probably already have the "Poodle" Podle Bible. Sorry my Czech isn't so good. [:$]
I will add your Czech Bibles to my prayer list.
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Matthew C Jones said:
Yes, I'm happy. Also, look what I found http://www.logos.com/products/groups/allitems/cs
I know you probably already have the "Poodle" Podle Bible. Sorry my Czech isn't so good.
I will add your Czech Bibles to my prayer list.
Yes, I have this one. It is the famous Kralitz Bible translated by Unitas Fratrum Czech Brethren in 1579. The last edition is from 1613. Excellent work. Only KJV can be compared to it. It has been very unique since its 6 volume version had translation and explanation notes. The Logos version is actually the first edition from 1579. The name in Logos is not the best. "Podle původního vydání Kralického" means "According to the original edition of Kralice". We have 3 modern translations of the whole Bible and we are going to have the Catholic Jerusalem Bible also by the end of this year - and we NEED all of them them in Logos. Sorry, I know we are speaking about the Japanese Bibles here. I celebrate with you [:)]. I looked to the link and that interlinears look really good. But don't tell it to George. He would come and spoil our joy...[:D]
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Bohuslav Wojnar said:
rry, I know we are speaking about the Japanese Bibles here. I celebrate with you
. I looked to the link and that interlinears look really good. But don't tell it to George. He would come and spoil our joy...
I suppose you could hide all except for one line (either the Hebrew/Aramaic/Greek line or the translation line. If you only use one of the lines then an interlinear isn't so bad.
george
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George Somsel said:
I suppose you could hide all except for one line (either the Hebrew/Aramaic/Greek line or the translation line. If you only use one of the lines then an interlinear isn't so bad.
I might try hiding the Japanese line....... no, wait, umm...err.. don't thinks so! [I]
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Japanese Bible online link:
http://www.james317.org/japanesebible.php/
I wish Logos had Japanese Bible. There are Christians in Japan!
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elishakatamura said:
I wish Logos had Japanese Bible. There are Christians in Japan!
Did you happen to notice Rick Brannan Replied: Wed, Aug 12 2009 2:46 PM with a link to a Libronix Japanese/Greek Interlinear package here:
http://www.bible.or.jp/purchase/newbible/greece.html ??
Bob Pritchett recently commented Logos 4 will concentrate on developing for languages that have extensive reference works available. I guess they are leveraging the widest customer base for now. But Asia has been producing a lot of scholarly Bible works the past few decades in Chinese, Korean & Japanese. Several tomes have been written in native Indian languages. (even Mayanmar.) I would like to see the Bible text is every language possible. These Christians you speak of keep appearing everywhere! [;)]
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Does this work with Logos 4?
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Timothy McCown said:
Does this work with Logos 4?
I am not able to read much of that Japanese but I can see the logo of Libronix. Whatever works with the libronix engine, will work also in Logos 4 IMHO.
Bohuslav
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I posted a suggestion on the Logos UserVoice.com site (http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4/suggestions/2246258-japanese-version). If you're so inclined - add some votes to it. It'd be great to see an application like Logos with at least one version of the Japanese bible in it's collection (preferably a modern translation).
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Super Tramp said:
Several tomes have been written in native Indian languages.
Considering that there are South Asian Jews that may date back to the exile and Christians who claim to date back to the Apostle Thomas, this isn't surprising. BTW the Christians were part of the Syriac Church liturgically and doctrinally. Thanks to the Portuguese they are now split into Eastern Orthodox, Orthodox, Catholic and miscellaneous ... or at least that's what it looks like from the outside.[H]
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
Considering that there are South Asian Jews that may date back to the exile
Some scholars claim the Eastern religions have been influenced by worship practices of Judaism. I think there is probably some merit to their conclusions.
MJ. Smith said:Christians who claim to date back to the Apostle Thomas,
I have known many nationals from India who claim their churches have a documented heritage going back to Thomas.
MJ. Smith said:Thanks to the Portuguese
Christianity was brought to Japan by the Portuguese and Francis Xavier.
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Super Tramp said:
I have known many nationals from India who claim their churches have a documented heritage going back to Thomas.
There is some evidence for that claim and it certainly was very early.
Super Tramp said:Christianity was brought to Japan by the Portuguese
Some Indians are more than a little annoyed with the Portuguese. From their perspective they were always part of the Universal church and knew little/cared little about the politics between Syriac, Byzantine and Latin groups. So they see the Portuguese as having divided the small Christian community over services in Latin or in Syriac for no particular reason. Mind you, the loudest complaint I've heard in this area was an acquaintance who went to services in Kannada (the vernacular) with Syriac hymns
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Logos now has several Asian language Bible versions but they are all Chinese and Korean. I am happy for the users who can read these languages. I would also be happy if we could get at least one Japanese Bible in Logos 4. Either the Shinkaiyaku Seisho or the new Franciscan version translated from the Hebrew and Greek. (Preferably both!)
There are other options available for reading the Bible in Japanese on a computer. Some software companies that offer one or more versions are: A-Bible, Accordance, BibleOne, BibleWorks, eSword, and many online accessible versions. Logos is my (almost) exclusive Bible study software. It would be nice to not have to fire up the others. And I would be embarrassed if the Manga Bible gets it digitized before Logos.
For those new to this request here are a few key links:- Logos has worked with the Japan Bible Society.
- Japanese-Greek Interlinear in Libronix format. Is this compatible with Logos 4??
- UserVoice request for the Japanese Bible in Logos 4.
- The Japan Bible Page. I do not believe the eBible Japan has any relation to Nelson and their Libronix based eBible products.
Thanks for bending your ear.
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Have seen eBible Japan at church and fairly common; not Manga Bible (yet!).
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Denise Barnhart said:
Have seen eBible Japan at church and fairly common; not Manga Bible (yet!).
Yes, I buried that link above (under Japan Bible Page)
Super Tramp said:The Japan Bible Page. I do not believe the eBible Japan has any relation to Nelson and their Libronix based eBible products.
This eBible will not integrate with Logos and is not accessible offline. I have A-Bible, Accordance, BibleOne, eSword and a couple PDF versions I can access offline. I am wanting it in Logos.
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BUMP
Still waiting and praying for Japanese Bible in Logos 4.
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