How Do I.....

BillS
BillS Member Posts: 3,805 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum
I have many notes. I'd like for MOST of them NOT to display on my Kindle Fire. So far, I've only found an on/off switch for all or none, & ALL really slows down the app! Is there any way to select which ones are visible? Even better, prevent all L5 notes from being visible while ALLOWING Kindle created notes?

What I really want to do is create a new highlight note(s) that is visible ONLY on the Kindle, the equivalent of highlighting while I'm reading... But I do NOT want any of those notes going to L5 on my PC. Nor do I want Logos notes created in L5 to go to the Kindle--unless I pick them to do so.

Thanks in advance!
Bill

Grace & Peace,
Bill


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  • Kevin Byford (Faithlife)
    Kevin Byford (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 4,309

    BillS said:

    I have many notes. I'd like for MOST of them NOT to display on my Kindle Fire. So far, I've only found an on/off switch for all or none, & ALL really slows down the app! Is there any way to select which ones are visible?

    There's already a case written to add visual markup settings to the Android app (it's already there on iOS).  This will allow you to turn on/off particular note documents.

    BillS said:

    What I really want to do is create a new highlight note(s) that is visible ONLY on the Kindle, the equivalent of highlighting while I'm reading... But I do NOT want any of those notes going to L5 on my PC. Nor do I want Logos notes created in L5 to go to the Kindle--unless I pick them to do so.

    I will write up an inquiry case for this one.

  • BillS
    BillS Member Posts: 3,805 ✭✭✭

    I will write up an inquiry case for this one.

    Bless you for the response! Sounds like "not yet" on both questions.

    Will the Vyrso app decouple from L5 notes? All I'm really wanting to do is use the Bible and/or Vyrso app like a Kindle without influencing my laptop's L5 installation. :-D

    Thanks in advance!
    Bill

    Grace & Peace,
    Bill


    MSI GF63 8RD, I-7 8850H, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD, 2TB HDD, NVIDIA GTX 1050Max
    iPhone 12 Pro Max 512Gb
    iPad 9th Gen iOS 15.6, 256GB

  • Kevin Byford (Faithlife)
    Kevin Byford (Faithlife) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 4,309

    BillS said:

    Will the Vyrso app decouple from L5 notes?

    No - every app syncs notes/highlights to the cloud if you are logged in with the same account.

  • Russ White
    Russ White Member Posts: 554 ✭✭

    We've been asking for this type of feature for years -- not just for maintaining separation between different sets of notes, but also for privacy. There are some notes I'd prefer not to be stored on a cloud server. Logos has consistently answered that it would cost them more in tech support costs (because their users will complain about notes not being synchronized through calls to tech support because they've not configured it correctly), than the gains to the users from such a feature.

    IMHO, all the data in Logos should be able to be selectively synchronized -- prayer list, notes, everything. If personal books can be selectively synchronized, then everything else can be, too.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,783

    If personal books can be selectively synchronized, then everything else can be, too.

    At the moment, its not that personal books can be selectively synchronised (and I haven't seen anything to suggest this will be the case) but that they can't be syncronised at all (with the exception of metadata synching between two Logos 4 / 5 environments)

  • Russ White
    Russ White Member Posts: 554 ✭✭

    [quote]At the moment, its not that personal books can be selectively synchronised (and I haven't seen anything to suggest this will be the case) but that they can't be syncronised at all (with the exception of metadata synching between two Logos 4 / 5 environments)

    Ugh. I don't know if you misread my post, or if you just don't understand my point.

    The point is that Logos knows how to selectively synchronize things from their end. There's no reason they can't also selectively synchronize notes as well as personal books.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,783

    Ugh. I don't know if you misread my post, or if you just don't understand my point.

    I think one of those is probably true[:)]

    The point is that Logos knows how to selectively synchronize things from their end

    I'm not sure that this is the case and keen to understand what you mean.

    As far as I can see if something is "syncable" and the relevant application and back-end infrastructure supports it then - if Internet access is enabled - everything is synced. I don't see anywhere where Logos are doing selective synchronisation.

    Please advise.

  • Russ White
    Russ White Member Posts: 554 ✭✭

    [quote]As far as I can see if something is "syncable" and the relevant application and back-end infrastructure supports it then - if Internet access is enabled - everything is synced. I don't see anywhere where Logos are doing selective synchronisation.

    How does the software select what to synchronize or not today? By examining some marker on the file... So selectively synchronizing notes should be a matter of allowing multiple note files, and then using the same marker on some note files, and not on others. This could easily be extended to the ability to synchronize specific sets of files on specific devices. Note this is no different than not only note files, but also locally downloading specific resources onto a mobile device of any type.

    The capability is already there --and there are now two sets of justifications. The first is the ability to keep some sets of notes off the server, the second is to be able to synchronize sets of notes onto specific devices, rather than all the notes in my library.

    The third thing needed here is for Logos to decide to do this --so far, the primary point I've heard against it is, "it would cause confusion among our users, who might get upset when some things synchronize and others don't, and hence cause tech support calls." This line of reasoning I don't buy, honestly --Logos is a complex piece of software (I'm often told it's too complex, in fact), I don't think the ability to synchronize something things and not others is going to confuse many people who aren't confused by all the other stuff involved in using this software for more than a few seconds or minutes.

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 16,045

    How does the software select what to synchronize or not today? By examining some marker on the file...

    We don't know whether it does so for resources (e.g. to differentiate putting resources onto various platforms), much less how they do it for documents and other data.

    Regarding documents (and notes, prayer lists etc are such) I can imagine that the sync process just grabs any existing objects from a syncable category it finds in the respective certain folder, compares the object's time stamp with the last sync timestamp and runs for it. Since there currently is no selective synchronization of documents, there simply is no such marker or flag in the document (or in the database table that holds its master data).

    Your suggestion would require Logos to create such a flag plus a UI feature for the user to tell the program not to sync a class of objects (prayer lists) or a certain object (the secret "prayer list for stealth missionaries in North Korea") and to code the sync process to check these markers before syncing.  

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • Russ White
    Russ White Member Posts: 554 ✭✭

    [quote]We don't know whether it does so for resources (e.g. to differentiate putting resources onto various platforms)

    Well, we know they must be for specific resources... Because it doesn't pull personal books, nor are all resources available on all platforms. It's a little unreasonable to think this is based on a "master list," maintained on a daily basis --but even if it were, it's simple enough to extend this to the rest of the information they're sync'ing.

    But let's back up a little --I actually don't care how Logos implements this stuff. All I know is:

    1. They are, in fact, implementing selective synchronization today, because they synchronize some resources and not others on a per platform basis.

    2. There are at least two use cases for selectively synchronizing notes in the same way resources are currently synchronized.

    It seems, to me, that this is enough to say --the feature is possible and desirable.

  • BillS
    BillS Member Posts: 3,805 ✭✭✭
    NB.Mick said:

    create such a flag plus a UI feature for the user to tell the program not to sync a class of objects (prayer lists) or a certain object (the secret "prayer list for stealth missionaries in North Korea") and to code the sync process to check these markers before syncing.  

    Logos has already done this for resources. In the info pane for each resource in our Library are checkboxes for each device we'd like the resource sent to. Aren't we just asking Logos to extend that capability to documents, too?

    Grace & Peace,
    Bill


    MSI GF63 8RD, I-7 8850H, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD, 2TB HDD, NVIDIA GTX 1050Max
    iPhone 12 Pro Max 512Gb
    iPad 9th Gen iOS 15.6, 256GB

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,783

    BillS said:

    NB.Mick said:

    create such a flag plus a UI feature for the user to tell the program not to sync a class of objects (prayer lists) or a certain object (the secret "prayer list for stealth missionaries in North Korea") and to code the sync process to check these markers before syncing.  

    Logos has already done this for resources. In the info pane for each resource in our Library are checkboxes for each device we'd like the resource sent to. Aren't we just asking Logos to extend that capability to documents, too?

    technically, it is a different process.

    the checkboxes control whether resources are downloaded to mobile devices, not whether they are visible on them

    Also this mechanism doesn't affect whether things are synced from desktop to cloud and doesn't control sync between desktop / laptop devices.