500 Megapack looks like a garage sale you leave early

Ok, I realize for some people the 500 megapack on sale looks like a great deal and some may consider Logos very generous in its offering......

That being said, it looks to me like a garage sale with ancient dusty books that you look at, put back, and quietly leave the garage without buyer's remorse.

Am I missing something here? The Whitfield books look good but really what use are the others ones, except one or two of the commentaries, which are always useful I think.

This isn't a bash Logos post....I am curious if any fellow Baptist Seminarians (just for example) see any value in this collection?

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Matt Hamrick

Yes, I saw some value with Whitefield, Zwingli, Arminius and the Puritans. To gather these titles alone would have cost more than my price for the 500 Mega Book Collection.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555458#Comment_555458

Absent having already purchased many of the exegetical volumes at CP prices, the answer is 'yes'. I think Logos was (and hopefully also in the future) will put CP sets on major sale for those who acted as 'grasshoppers' (me) instead of 'ants' (smart people).

Maybe it depends on the seminary? (Since as you say, it's not Logos, and others find value. Only one choice left.)

Sean

There's lot of good stuff in there. Some of them are on my wishlist; for reference, I teach systematic and historical theology at an ecumenical seminary. I'll justify just a few:

-Welhausen's work on the Pentateuch: I'm not in the field of OT but am interested in understanding his theory more. For the most part, later liberal works assume you already know about it, whereas conservative one just explain why they think it is wrong. I'd like to know what he actually came to think and how he got there, so I want to read his original work.

-The complete works of Arminius. The work of Menno Simons. These are important figures in protestantism who are perpetually misunderstood because no one goes back and reads them, just what other people they already agree with have written about them.

-Same goes for Ritschl.

-von Harnack's work on the History of dogma is a classic that is still constantly referred to. I have access to hardcopies but want the ease of having them in Logos.

-Many others could be mentioned here--Whitelfield, Finney, Zwingli, and so forth.

Yes, there is some "filler" here, but what exactly should be classified as that is very subjective. I'm not interested in all the Puritan stuff, but as you can see, others are.

It's a good deal. I plan on getting it if Logos restores the volumes it pulled that it already gave to early purchasers.

NB.Mick

Am I missing something here? (..) This isn't a bash Logos post....I am curious if any fellow Baptist Seminarians (just for example) see any value in this collection?

Hm. It does sound a lot like a bash Logos post. If a certain deal isn't your piece of cake, maybe it's wiser to just leave it alone?

For example, I'm no SDA. I personally wouldn't pay to receive the wisdom of a prophetess which apparently birthed something that - for many other christians - looks a denomination ridden with exclusivism, legalism and fake excuses for a return of Chridst which just didn't happen. But then it seems, there are quite a number of brothers and sisters who want to live their lifes as Christians with the same vigour and sprit (or better: Spirit) than I do - and who belong there. They celebrate a lot of deals that help them in building Logos libraries to better study God's word but also the history of their denomination. Praise to them - and to Logos, in making this possible (and in the end to the Lord, whose is all wisdom).

I received some 320 new books in the Megapack collection, which means, I paid for about 180 of them when they were in CP or PB. I'm sick of the flood of reformed liturature that is drowning every reasonable voice in theology, thus I rejoice most in the Works of Arminius - but then, I think, I can probably still learn a lot from calvinist sources like those contained in the Megapack. And I am far from a liberal, but I bought the Harnack stuff when it appeared (and thus it's not new to me in the Magapack), because I know of the vast influence the "History of Religion"-school played in theology.

So, for those who like to read the words of someone in context - rather than just the thoughts of someone who didn't even grasp the low-quality-secondary literature he purported to read, but had someone else copy for him - there's probably a lot of value in this pack. The thoughts of C.S. Lewis regarding old versus new books may come to mind, too.

For others (and I can't tell where Baptist seminarians fall in this - maybe depends on the seminary?) - wasn't there a sale on Driscoll books at Vyrso these days?

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555463#Comment_555463

There's lot of good stuff in there. (...)

Sean,

you put it a lot better than I did.

Sean

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555470#Comment_555470

Thanks, Mick!

For others (and I can't tell where Baptist seminarians fall in this - maybe depends on the seminary?) - wasn't there a sale on Driscoll books at Vyrso these days?

Naughty, naughty! [:D]

abondservant

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555463#Comment_555463

I am interested in Whitefield, zwingli and the puritans as well.

PLUS I'm a bit of a commentary hound, old or not, I find it interesting to read through the thoughts of previous generations on scripture. Its one of the reasons I enjoy attending (often translated) bible studies and sermons in other countries.

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555478#Comment_555478

Here is Dan Pritchard's blog on how the Megapack came to be - http://blog.logos.com/2013/12/why-i-did-it-the-truth-comes-out/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=logostalk

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555481#Comment_555481

Thanks, Bruce. Clarifies a lot. Key word 'cheesy'. Not 'dusty books' or 'useless garage sale'.

'You’ll notice that Mega Pack doesn’t have the same look and feel of most of our marketing. It is hyped, sensational, and perhaps a bit cheesy. That’s my fault. I assure you I will back off the cheese and let our high standards of elegance return once this promotion is over.'

Perhaps Josh was used the high standards of elegance?

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555485#Comment_555485

Denise, I think you are twisting things here. "perhaps a bit cheesy" is Dan's expression that I think is referring to the sale and not to the choice or content of the books. Notice that the context is marketing.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555487#Comment_555487

Maybe it's our backgrounds? I used to be an exec in retail. Marketing and product are synonomous at the instant in time that copy goes out.

One could advertise a cheesy sale. Or one could offer non-cheesy books. The problem occurs when the product and the hype don't match. I suspect much of the grousing this holiday period was due to being used to non-cheesy hyping (marketing) and non-cheesy prices/books (the product). In this case, it appears we have cheesy hyping, and cheesy book selection (the OP's frustration).

Personally I thought the cheese was ok.

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555489#Comment_555489

Personally I wouldn't use the word cheesy at all.

David Bailey

Ok, I realize for some people the 500 megapack on sale looks like a great deal and some may consider Logos very generous in its offering......

That being said, it looks to me like a garage sale with ancient dusty books that you look at, put back, and quietly leave the garage without buyer's remorse.

Am I missing something here? The Whitfield books look good but really what use are the others ones, except one or two of the commentaries, which are always useful I think.

This isn't a bash Logos post....I am curious if any fellow Baptist Seminarians (just for example) see any value in this collection?

I guess it depends on what your interests are. I see tremendous value in many of the resources found in this Mega deal. Others on the forums have already expressed those values. I would jump on this deal in a heart beat; unfortunately, I don't have the funds for it, even at this low price per volume. [:(]

David

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555491#Comment_555491

True. The normal word is 'thin' (product offering).

Jack Caviness

it looks to me like a garage sale with ancient dusty books that you look at, put back, and quietly leave the garage without buyer's remorse.

Appears that we have an abundance of Acts 17:21 folks in Christendom today. An unnamed right-wing radio commentator has frequently said that for most people history began the day they were born. This is becoming increasingly true in Christian circles to the impoverishment of the Church. It is the very height of arrogance to suppose that no one could possibly interpret Scripture prior to the last quarter of the 20th century. After all, the bible itself is a very ancient book.

Evan Boardman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555510#Comment_555510

It's a great deal but I didnt bite because I already had most of what looked good to me and the few stuff that I did want didnt add up to a savings.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555532#Comment_555532

I like Acts 17:22 - the literal greek. Only the Bohairic coptic translation is brave enough. Just too many demon-fearers on the forum with nothing to do.

But I think it's interesting how people hem and haw on why they didn't bite. Selling hem and haw won't pay the bills.

Evan Boardman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555539#Comment_555539

But I think it's interesting how people hem and haw on why they didn't bite.

No hem and hawing. just facts.

Simon’s Brother

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555510#Comment_555510

it looks to me like a garage sale with ancient dusty books that you look at, put back, and quietly leave the garage without buyer's remorse.

Appears that we have an abundance of Acts 17:21 folks in Christendom today. An unnamed right-wing radio commentator has frequently said that for most people history began the day they were born. This is becoming increasingly true in Christian circles to the impoverishment of the Church. It is the very height of arrogance to suppose that no one could possibly interpret Scripture prior to the last quarter of the 20th century. After all, the bible itself is a very ancient book.

I agree Jack, I cringe a little when people only want today's scholarship. Are we somehow more superior today than we were yesterday? Do we have a special relationship with the Holy Spirit today that wasn't available yesterday. For sure in the fields like archeology and linguistics we know things today we didn't yesterday that assist us in understanding the scriptures but if we suggest that only material written in our lifetimes is of value then who are we exalting? Sure there was some less valuable material written yesterday, but so is there today. If Christ has not returned in 100 years how much of what we regard as the best, today's material be discarded as not relevant, and yet some of yesterday's material will remain as valuable.

i can though understand a student having to make selective choices about what they personally purchase,but that is different to rejecting yesterday's material because you think it no longer relevant.

JoshInRI

Just for the record, I enjoy easily understood clear commentaries from any age or time? I didnt see a preponderance of them in this (probably) wonderful collection though.

As for cheese, Vermont Sharp Cheddar and NOT that stuff you swirl out from a tube or spray-like bottle either - ewwwww.

Aged cheese can be great too.

Mike Childs

There is some good old stuff here that I would like to have - the Whitefield books, for example. There is some good stuff here that I already have - Arminius and the Cambridge commentaries.

But there is not enough here for me to spend hundreds of dollars. That is a personal decision, but I would like to have seen some kind of package with some quality resources that are not just public domain material. A lot of this material would only clutter up my already too cluttered Logos library. I would never use most of it. Call me crazy, but this is not my dream package.

This is not nearly the best package Logos has ever offered in terms of value.

Now you take that first Platinum L5 package (which no longer has some of best commentaries originally included). That was the best package that Logos ever offered, from my perspective.

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555470#Comment_555470

For example, I'm no SDA. I personally wouldn't pay to receive the wisdom of a prophetess which apparently birthed something that - for many other christians - looks a denomination ridden with exclusivism, legalism and fake excuses for a return of Chridst which just didn't happen.

Be nice. Wrong information NB. Your history is all wrong. So is the understanding of Adventist theology.

Light bearers to the Remnant is a good academic book http://www.adventistbookcenter.com/light-bearers.html or Knight's book: http://www.adventistbookcenter.com/a-brief-history-of-seventh-day-adventists.html for easy reading.

Unix

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555684#Comment_555684

You mean L4? There is one copy being sold on ebay:

Now you take that first Platinum L5 package (which no longer has some of best commentaries originally included). That was the best package that Logos ever offered, from my perspective.

Mike Pettit

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555733#Comment_555733

I think it is a great package, the only downside is that it does not include the Newton collection, rather strangely it only includes volume 3. This does however reduce the dynamic pricing for the full collection so it is still valuable.

Unix

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555581#Comment_555581

Some good thoughts by Jack Caviness and Disciple of Christ!

I sometimes buy a bit older works, even from the 19th century (I have a quote open right now for a book from the mid-19th century), but I dislike the bundling, this bundle is too big - I wish I could leave something out of it and get it cheaper. Yes I'm a student. I have more than enough money to spend on books but I have been spending money too easily on books in Bible Study Software.

Even though it's a bigger effort I think I'm going to wait for individual titles (or perhaps collections) to go on a sale, or negotiate with Sales about the price. But I will probably not be buying old commentaries - even though it doesn't really matter if a commentary is from 1987 or 1907 (I expect the commentary from 1907 to be better since the costs for producing it in Logos are way much lower than for the 1987 title) - especially if it's on any book from the 39-book Old Testament except Isaiah.

Even so, I'm usually very disappointed with the public domain works offered in low- and mid-level base-packages.

I'm following sales pretty closely. I rather put this extra effort into it, than clutter my library:

I agree Jack, I cringe a little when people only want today's scholarship. Are we somehow more superior today than we were yesterday? Do we have a special relationship with the Holy Spirit today that wasn't available yesterday? For sure in the fields like archeology and linguistics we know things today we didn't yesterday that assist us in understanding the scriptures but if we suggest that only material written in our lifetimes is of value then who are we exalting?:
An unnamed right-wing radio commentator has frequently said that for most people history began the day they were born. This is becoming increasingly true in Christian circles to the impoverishment of the Church. It is the very height of arrogance to suppose that no one could possibly interpret Scripture prior to the last quarter of the 20th century:
it looks to me like a garage sale with ancient dusty books that you look at, put back, and quietly leave the garage without buyer's remorse.

mike

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555733#Comment_555733

You mean L4? There is one copy being sold on ebay:
Now you take that first Platinum L5 package (which no longer has some of best commentaries originally included). That was the best package that Logos ever offered, from my perspective.

What resources not being offered apart from the original L5 Platinum?

Mike Childs

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555733#Comment_555733

No, not L4. When L5 first came out, the Platinum package contained the Pillar Commentaries, the Baker Exegetical Commentaries, and a number of other top commentaries that were later removed from the package. So glad that I bought the package before much of the best stuff was removed. That was the best package value that Logos ever offered.

You mean L4? There is one copy being sold on ebay:
Now you take that first Platinum L5 package (which no longer has some of best commentaries originally included). That was the best package that Logos ever offered, from my perspective.

ChelseaFC

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555914#Comment_555914

No, not L4. When L5 first came out, the Platinum package contained the Pillar Commentaries, the Baker Exegetical Commentaries, and a number of other top commentaries that were later removed from the package. So glad that I bought the package before much of the best stuff was removed. That was the best package value that Logos ever offered.

You mean L4? There is one copy being sold on ebay:
Now you take that first Platinum L5 package (which no longer has some of best commentaries originally included). That was the best package that Logos ever offered, from my perspective.

Hmmm. I thought this was L4 plantinum as well. I don't remember L5 offering that last year in the initial opening offers. Was it a Logos mistake? Many people would of jumped on that if it was around last year for a sustained period. Any helpful thoughts to clarify? Just my two pence. Thanks.

Cheers,

ChelseaFC

Donovan R. Palmer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555510#Comment_555510

Appears that we have an abundance of Acts 17:21 folks in Christendom today. An unnamed right-wing radio commentator has frequently said that for most people history began the day they were born. This is becoming increasingly true in Christian circles to the impoverishment of the Church. It is the very height of arrogance to suppose that no one could possibly interpret Scripture prior to the last quarter of the 20th century. After all, the bible itself is a very ancient book.

Jack I love your posts. You are great at stirring the pot to get us to think. This resonates with something I have wrestled with over the last few years. I have at times been critical of some of the public domain offerings in Logos. Sometimes this has been due to my personal desire to see other things get published. Sometimes it has been to make sure that we have access to up to date materials.

Yet as I continue to explore, I think we walk a narrow ridge.

One side of the ridge is to keep an eye on history. Mistakes made in the past. Foundations that have been laid by others that we stand now on. Thematic ways that God has dealt with and revealed himself to the church. This is a rich treasure trove that enhances the here and now. On my trip to Israel this summer someone said to me there are no 30 year old people in this region. The implication was that everyone has a very deep sense of history of thousands of years. In contrast to my own cultural and church background, I realised I don't hold a candle when it comes to understanding my history other than a thumbnail sketch.

Then there is the other side of the ridge of God doing new things. It seems every generation God continues to work in unique, but yet consistent ways. Sounds like I am talking out of two sides of my mouth! It is the same, but it is fresh and vibrant. Also, the information age and the accessible power of computing to many, is allowing us to do analytics on things such as grammar that we have not been able to do widely before. New archaeological discoveries are bringing new elements to the discussion, often confirming and sharpening further what we have understood in the past. I am particularly interested in current debates around linguistics.

The challenge I see is that we can slip down the ridge on one side and get stuck in the past. We can also forget the past, believe thing it is all new and our arrogance can make us believe that time will somehow stop with our generation in understanding the scriptures.

I have some of the materials from the past, Apostolic Fathers, Calvin, Luther, Spurgeon, etc... and some of the more modern compilations of material based on them such as ACCS, RCS, Crossway. Yet I have made more space in my reference library for more older materials, regardless of whether the copyright is current, particularly if the price is really reasonable. I also am quite eager to keep reading BAR, theological journals and recently released materials. I find sometimes recognise something is not really new and was actually said better in the past, or even worse, is possibly in error. Yet sometimes I find something new that I think really has brought another dimension of life to a time tested truth.

One of the dangers I see is that aside from my culture and church background not knowing or appreciated history as much as might be beneficial, is that we can read one popular current book and hang our hat on it without reading critically and comparing several views. I have been and probably still am to a degree guilty of this, though I think I have learned a few hard lessons. (albeit slowly as I have a thick head sometimes) Reading widely should not just be 'current' books, but also looking back as well to what others have written on a particular issue.

So yes, when it comes to Acts 17:21 - part of our own societal trend is still this way. Even understanding that this was present during the time of the Apostles, puts into perspective the old challenges that this new generation faces.

Depending on what you are looking for, these deals that Logos offers from time to time can really help build your reference library. Like many, there were only some titles that interested me (currently). Yet the overall deal is so exceptional, there is a good chance that I will realise more treasures as I research and read. The 500 mega pack is not for everyone, but it may help if you are finding yourself on a similar journey to mine.

Donovan R. Palmer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555968#Comment_555968

Hmmm. I thought this was L4 plantinum as well. I don't remember L5 offering that last year in the initial opening offers. Was it a Logos mistake? Many people would of jumped on that if it was around last year for a sustained period. Any helpful thoughts to clarify? Just my two pence. Thanks.

My recollection is the biggest bang for buck in some very good commentaries was when L4 Platinum first came out. At the time, it made the justification for going from Gold to Platinum a no-brainer for many. I used to have a spreadsheet that someone produced on the various library configurations over the years, but I can't find it now.

Mark Barnes

Am I missing something here?

The assumption in your question seems to be:

old=bad=worthless
new=good=valuable

This megapack is without doubt the best 'classic' pack put together by Logos, ever. It's the theological equivalent of finding a bundle of old films in a garage sale for $1, then discovering that the films are Gone with the Wind, It's a Wonderful Life, Citizen Cane, Casablanca, North by Northwest, Rear Window and Sunset Boulevard. Old, certainly, but well worth watching (and watching them will perhaps remind you what we often miss in modern blockbusters).

I am curious if any fellow Baptist Seminarians (just for example) see any value in this collection?

If you're not familiar with most of the names in this collections, I suggest a few more church history electives [;)]. Andrew Fuller, for example, is one of the most important figures in early Baptist mission work. At least half the books in this bundle are written by people we should at least be aware of, and a several of them are written by people who were real giants. Elsewhere I posted this list of highlights:

Looking through the collection overall, the highlights I think are:

Puritan and other reformed works:

19th/early 20thcentury Biblical Scholarship

Cambridge Greek Testament for Schools and Colleges (21 vols.)
Adolf von Harnack Collection (22 vols.)
Critical and Exegetical Commentary on the New Testament (21 vols.)
Morris Jastrow Near Eastern Studies Collection (5 vols.)
Joseph Agar Beet Commentary Collection (17 vols.)
Friedrich Blass Greek Studies Collection (3 vols.)
James Hope Moulton Greek Studies Collection (5 vols.)

Donovan R. Palmer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555972#Comment_555972

Like many, there were only some titles that interested me (currently). Yet the overall deal is so exceptional, there is a good chance that I will realise more treasures as I research and read.

I have to laugh. Just an hour later a volume pops up in my searching through my Logos library... 'A History of Preaching' - Edwin Dargan. I did not remember buying this book, so I went to my tags to see if I could figure out where it came from... guess what? It came from the 500 Mega Book Pack. I am collecting materials on the historical development of preaching and was delighted to add this especially at the price that I got the two volumes at! It would have been much harder to pay $29 for these two volumes. I find this happens often. I will stumble across something that I did not realise I had and I appreciate the purchase even more.

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555982#Comment_555982

I find this happens often. I will stumble across something that I did not realise I had and I appreciate the purchase even more.

I think this is a common experience for most of us and when it does happen to me I appreciate my library even more.

Dean J

Ok, I realize for some people the 500 megapack on sale looks like a great deal and some may consider Logos very generous in its offering......

That being said, it looks to me like a garage sale with ancient dusty books that you look at, put back, and quietly leave the garage without buyer's remorse.

Am I missing something here? The Whitfield books look good but really what use are the others ones, except one or two of the commentaries, which are always useful I think.

This isn't a bash Logos post....I am curious if any fellow Baptist Seminarians (just for example) see any value in this collection?

It's a great deal if you're calvinist. In my case, I have most of the commentaries etc, and so there isn't much left that is of value to me. I wouldn't call it generous--these were probably all developed on CP and didn't cost Logos a cent. It's a sensible way of making money, and nothing wrong with it, and Logos is a generous company, but this is just good business sense on their part.

And the works are old; now I happen to think that scholarship is declining in many ways, and for many reasons; but the fact remains, unless you need a particular work to be searchable in Logos (e.g. the commentaries), then you could save yourself hundreds (or buy something else) by reading the old works in Google Books or Internet Archive. That isn't a judgment on the content--it's just a reality that out of copyright generally means freely available.

Shawn Drewett

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/556007#Comment_556007

Right on target Dean053. Clear thinking.

Mike Childs

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555968#Comment_555968

Unix and ChelseaFC, you both are absolutely right and I am wrong. My memory failed me. It was L4. How time does fly. Nonetheless, that still was the best value of resources ever in a Logos package , in my most humble opinion.

David Bailey

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/556028#Comment_556028

Nonetheless, that still was the best value of resources ever in a Logos package , in my most humble opinion.

The original L4 Platinum base package was the best one. Now I think the best value packages are from Verbum Plus and maybe the Logos Portfolio.

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/556047#Comment_556047

Nonetheless, that still was the best value of resources ever in a Logos package , in my most humble opinion.

The original L4 Platinum base package was the best one. Now I think the best value packages are from Verbum Plus and maybe the Logos Portfolio.

Actually, the Logos 4 Platinum LE (original one) has been the best base package Logos has ever offered in their entire life time as a Bible software business. Then the original L4 Portfolio also, since it had everything that the original Platinum L4 had. Now base packages are full of old works and commentaries (some even from CP; e.g. Lange). I wish there was a way for Logos to bring back the content Platinum LE in Logos 4 had plus more new stuff, but the way I see it, it seems like future base packages will be full of old CP works and premium resources by other publishes (e.g. PNTC, BECNT and others) will have to be purchased separately at a higher price --- which I wouldn't mind really, but when you sell base packages at the price logos is selling them and then they're full of old works, then I'm not sure I would like to upgrade in the future. I hope I'm wrong and Logos listens to their customers and puts more premium high quality commentaries and other works in the L6 packages whenever L6 is released. If there was a way Logos could include NICOT/NT in L6 Platinum or Portfolio, you can count me in to be one of those who will upgrade in a heart beat.

Blessings!

DAL

GaoLu

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555552#Comment_555552

Facts:

1. All the best books in this package that I want most I already have.

2. Dynamic pricing only discounts me $25 for all those books.

3. The rest of the package is hardly worth the rest of the cost to me.

4. Ergo I did not buy.

5. Yet.

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/556175#Comment_556175

5. Yet.

Perhaps the thought that this will never be offered again at such a low price still is in your mind. [;)]

JoshInRI

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555976#Comment_555976

Mark, I appreciate your taste in classic films but not a single one of the books in this list (except Whitefield) is worth the money to me.

If this package disappears and is never offered again all I can say is - God bless em....I will wait til they offer a discount on something actually worth buying.

Honestly, if Logos gave me a majority of these books for free I would pass.

I like older scholarship and wisdom for the ages - but to me this does look mostly look like a Calvin fire sale - sorry.

Zwingli? Thomas Cranmer? Seriously?!!

As for the other books - its all Greek to me!

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/556355#Comment_556355

to me this does look mostly look like a Calvin fire sale - sorry.

Zwingli? Thomas Cranmer? Seriously?!!

Don't the libraries in Baptist seminaries stock Calvin, Zwingli, and Cranmer?

As for the other books - its all Greek to me!

It is good to study Greek.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/556355#Comment_556355

Whitefield

I really know nothing about him.

Thomas Cranmer?

definitely essential - "father" of the Book of Common Prayer and its many descendents

its all Greek to me!

from Shakespeare meaning "something that you say when you do not understand something that is written or said" ... which is to say that when you have read more deeply and more broadly you, too, may find value in these works. But you are probably truthful when you say

not a single one of the books in this list (except Whitefield) is worth the money to me.

Just don't forget the qualifier "to me" and assume your judgment applies to anyone else.

Randy Marsh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/556364#Comment_556364

I ended up purchasing this package and I am delighted with it. I go the the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, KY and yes, they do carry the books by Calvin, Zwingli, and Cranmer. I remember reading the works of Zwingli there and I found that to be a truly wonderful experience. I also have enjoyed reading Calvin's Institutes.

Anyways, however you look at it, many of the books offered in this collection left their marks on church history, and even if you do not agree with many of the authors, they are still worth reading because they had an influence on shaping our thoughts today.

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/556076#Comment_556076

I wish there was a way for Logos to bring back the content Platinum LE in Logos 4 had plus more new stuff,

I purchased L4 Platinum when it first came out, and got the Baker Exegetical set. Shortly after (do not remember how long) Baker pulled the set from the package. It could be a lisencing issue with the publisher.

Graham Owen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/556382#Comment_556382

I've been waiting since 20th December to get a list from sales at Logos of the resources that would be added to my account. Like most of these offers the challenge is determining what you actually will get for your money!

Ronald Quick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/556486#Comment_556486

I called and spoke with customer service and they emailed me a list of resources "new to me" within 5 minutes.

JoshInRI

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/555581#Comment_555581

I've been very clear that I like old and new scholarship. Happy New Year everyone. I hope in the new year Logos is as persistent with other sales featuring items I might actually make use of please. I continue to hope for dramatically slashed prices on commentaries.

David Kirk Davis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/556489#Comment_556489

I cannot understand the complaints about this package. The fact that these sets made it through community pricing proves enough people want to own these volumes and are willing to pay for them. This is a great set. If you don't want to purchase it I don't see why you would spend time complaining. It is like going to Home Depot and complaining about the things they sell. I got 82 volumes for $68 and wiped out $1200 off my wish list.

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/556495#Comment_556495

I cannot understand the complaints about this package. The fact that these sets made it through community pricing proves enough people want to own these volumes and are willing to pay for them. This is a great set. If you don't want to purchase it I don't see why you would spend time complaining. It is like going to Home Depot and complaining about the things they sell.

I totally agree with you. [Y]