What are the good volumes? Cambridge Greek Testament

Hi!
I know some have this almost ~100 year old set, and perhaps some have bought individual volumes (which seem to cost $13).
The link is: https://www.logos.com/products/search?q=cambridge+greek+testament&start=0&sort=rel&pageSize=30
The link to the set is: Cambridge Greek Testament for Schools and Colleges (21 vols.). It's included in the 500 book Mega Pack which I don't want.

I can hardly find any other cheaper individual volumes with non-transliterated Greek.

How would You describe this commentary?

I'm asking because I have so good coverage of some of the books of the Bible that I don't think I'll need to rush into buying more commentaries on them.

Happy New Year 2014!

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Donn Arms

This is a "must have" set. Jay Adams (who has published his own translation of the Greek NT) says this is the most helpful resource he has ever used---better than most modern resources.

Unix

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/556885#Comment_556885

Yes I want reviews so thanks, but it's impossible for me to afford the whole set! Some books of the Bible I have already covered pretty well with books I've bought (not yet read through many of those commentaries) and don't wish to add more on those books of the Bible.

Lee

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/556991#Comment_556991

The January Free Book is the Hebrews Volume.

Tom

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/557068#Comment_557068

The January Free Book is the Hebrews Volume.

Looks good AND it does include the commentary [Y] As a separate file. [:D]

Looks like the free book of the month IS Something to get excited over! [Y] Now I am! [<:o)]

YES IT IS SOMETHING TO GET EXCITED OVER, And It finally downloaded the other file! [:D]

abondservant

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/556991#Comment_556991

Yes I want reviews so thanks, but it's impossible for me to afford the whole set! Some books of the Bible I have already covered pretty well with books I've bought (not yet read through many of those commentaries) and don't wish to add more on those books of the Bible.

Unix: then make a list of the books of the bible that you don't have sufficient "coverage" of and only buy those titles. This is not information we can know for you

. If you feel a book of the bible has sufficient coverage, you are unlikely to buy the title any way as I understand it.

Good Luck

Timothy Brown

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/557091#Comment_557091

Looks good BUT they it does not include the commentary

How in the world is logos going to sell the set with out at least letting us see both the greek and english notes?

Looks like the free book of the month is nothing to get excited over!

You should find two separate listings in your library, one for the Greek text and one for the commentary.

Tom

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/557106#Comment_557106

Looks good BUT they it does include the commentary [:D]

Looks like the free book of the month IS something to get excited over! [:D]

You should find two separate listings in your library, one for the Greek text and one for the commentary.

For some reason, it did not download the first time! Both files are now on my computer! Thanks!

Unix

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/557098#Comment_557098

bump!

abondservant, what volumes I would buy depends to such a high degree on recommendations, that I can't just simplify this. I would for example like to know which of the volumes view the book of the Bible that it deals with, as a composite work?:

Unix: then make a list of the books of the bible that you don't have sufficient "coverage" of and only buy those titles.

Unix

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/557533#Comment_557533

What do You think of the Cambridge Greek Testament for Schools and Colleges: 1 & 2 Thessalonians -volume by George G. Findlay (he knew both Gk and Hebrew)? I have one commentary on this section of the Bible since before and it's pretty decent: 1 and 2 Thessalonians by Jacob W. Elias.

So far I've bought the Romans -volume by R. St. John Parry, and the Mark 2nd series -volume by G. F. Maclear and Alfred A. Plummer. I had commentaries on those already, and the one on Ro is good (Paideia, I have it both as printed matter and in Logos and have read it through twice and written a review on it with excerpt typed from the printed matter, + I have Hermeneia by Jewett and a pre-order for The Church’s Bible (4 vols.) $99.55), but I wanted to complement on these books of the Bible anyway. (Earlier on I thought that the volume on Mk in Hermeneia that I have was good (I bought it on April 19. 2012) but 1½ years later discovered it's not as good as I thought - I have pretty high standards, but it's still useful.)

Note: Currently discounts can't be negotiated on any of these volumes by phone.

abondservant

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/557533#Comment_557533

bump!

abondservant, what volumes I would buy depends to such a high degree on recommendations, that I can't just simplify this. I would for example like to know which of the volumes view the book of the Bible that it deals with, as a composite work?:
Unix: then make a list of the books of the bible that you don't have sufficient "coverage" of and only buy those titles.

As diverse of a community as we have here, I suspect that what one recommends another would scorn and vice versa. Seems like that would be confusing, multiple voices calling out from the grey...

Unix

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/558026#Comment_558026

Some who have used any of the volumes would still know more about them than what I've been able to glean from the product pages:

As diverse of a community as we have here, I suspect that what one recommends another would scorn and vice versa. Seems like that would be confusing, multiple voices calling out from the grey...

Unix

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/558078#Comment_558078

bump!

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/558173#Comment_558173

Unix, you can check all the volumes out here: http://studylight.org/com/cgt/ It's the free online version. Test drive the volumes you want and then you can decide better whether to purchase the whole set or just a volume here and there.

DAL

Unix

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/558233#Comment_558233

I would prefer just getting recommendations!:

DAL, thanks, I might take a real quick look, but I really have been spending too much time following sales (it's for example pretty tiresome to follow daily twitter deals because it's often closer to midnight over here when they are announced (can still purchase a daily twitter deal when I wake up though)) and I would rather put more time into reading resources that I already have.
As negotiating with sales is getting more and more difficult I would like to make one last try and ask whether one volume from this set could be discounted from the reg. price - because at first the price of ~$13 a volume seemed real cheap, but now when I think about it there are lots of older commentaries that occasionally are cheap.
I would NEVER buy the whole set. (I started using the forums and buying a lot in Logos in March 2012, just after the set went from Community Pricing to "Under production" in Pre-pub so I missed out on it - but even if I would have been more alert and would have discovered Community Pricing earlier I most probably would not have bid.) And I don't regret not getting the set at the Community Pricing price-level because I hate when there are too many books in my library and I don't want to have to hide books (I have a hard time deciding to hide anything anyway) - and I don't want there to be completely unnecessary books decades from now when I leave my books to some friend at the point when I'm too old to keep properly using the entire library:

Test drive the volumes you want and then you can decide better whether to purchase the whole set or just a volume here and there.

Unix

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/557988#Comment_557988

I just found and pre-ordered the forthcoming ICC-volume on 1-2 Thess, from AZ .co.uk as hardcover. I guess I would not need anything more meanwhile?:

What do You think of the Cambridge Greek Testament for Schools and Colleges: 1 & 2 Thessalonians -volume by George G. Findlay (he knew both Gk and Hebrew)?

... Are there other volumes anyone would suggest?

Unix

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/558255#Comment_558255

I don't read Acts, I have the Gospels pretty well covered.
I have commentaries on 1 Cor, at least one of them is good.
I have commentaries that cover 2 Cor 1-9, but would have use for another commentary and don't need any commentary on the rest of the chapters.
I want to wait quite a long time before I buy a commentary on Gal.
I have just bought a commentary on Eph. I have little on Eph but I'm selective.
I don't need commentaries on Phil, Col.
I don't want commentaries on the Pastorals, at least not old ones.
I don't think I have any proper commentary on Philem.
Hebrews is not a priority - I would not pay a lot for commentaries on it.
I will probably have many commentaries on James, half of them as printed matter, half of them in Logos. One which I want I discovered today. But I might still have use for another commentary, especially one with Gk!
I don't have sufficient coverage of 1 Pt.
I don't read 2 Pt.
I probably have somewhat sufficient commentaries on 1-3 Jn, but I don't read 2-3 Jn.
I would have use for commentaries on Jude, but not older than 15 years old
I rarely read the Apocalypse. EDIT: I have one commentary from 2001 and think that's sufficient:
... Are there other volumes anyone would suggest?

abondservant

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/558370#Comment_558370

I have commentaries that cover 2 Cor 1-9, but would have use for another commentary. I have little on Eph but I'm selective.

I don't think I have any proper commentary on Philem.

I don't have sufficient coverage of 1 Pt.

I rarely read the Apocalypse:... Are there other volumes anyone would suggest?

Looks like you figured it out: 2 Cor, Eph, Phi, and maybe the apocalypse.

Unix

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/558438#Comment_558438

I looked at the 2 Cor product page in the first place and couldn't figure out if it's any good.

It would have to view Eph as a composite letter, does it? I'm not sure Biblical scholarship had reached there by the time that volume was written.

I'm not sure this series would be good for Philem:

Looks like you figured it out: 2 Cor, Eph, Philem, and maybe the apocalypse.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/558370#Comment_558370

I don't read Acts, I have the Gospels pretty well covered.

I have commentaries on 1 Cor, at least one of them is good.

I have commentaries that cover 2 Cor 1-9, but would have use for another commentary and don't need any commentary on the rest of the chapters.

I want to wait quite a long time before I buy a commentary on Gal.

I have just bought a commentary on Eph. I have little on Eph but I'm selective.

I don't need commentaries on Phil, Col.

I don't want commentaries on the Pastorals, at least not old ones.

I don't think I have any proper commentary on Philem.

Hebrews is not a priority - I would not pay a lot for commentaries on it.

I will probably have many commentaries on James, half of them as printed matter, half of them in Logos. One which I want I discovered today. But I might still have use for another commentary, especially one with Gk!

I don't have sufficient coverage of 1 Pt.

I don't read 2 Pt.

I probably have somewhat sufficient commentaries on 1-3 Jn, but I don't read 2-3 Jn.

I would have use for commentaries on Jude, but not older than 15 years old

I rarely read the Apocalypse. EDIT: I have one commentary from 2001 and think that's sufficient:
... Are there other volumes anyone would suggest?

Unix, if you read your list above you can see why I feel helpless/frustrated when you ask for suggestions - how many of your considerations would I be apt to know? However, if you were to ask "I don't think I have any proper commentary on Phlem. Any suggestions?" I'd feel I had a chance of giving a useful answer. Others may feel differently but I thought I'd give my perspective as at times you seem frustrated at the lack of responses.

Ken McGuire

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/558445#Comment_558445

I looked at the 2 Cor product page in the first place and couldn't figure out if it's any good.

I recognize the author (Plummer) as one of highly respected commentaries in the ICC series. A quick glance shows interaction with the papyri becoming public a century ago. Of course it is not "up to date", but the field he is playing on, so to speak, is familiar. Since you seem to care about specific views on authorship and integrity, he speaks of it as an authentic work of Paul, but on the basis of internal evidence sees a reasonable case for a separation between 1-9 and 10-13, as well as 6:14-7:1. I would think this would be a good volume for you to consider.

It would have to view Eph as a composite letter, does it? I'm not sure Biblical scholarship had reached there by the time that volume was written.

I am not actually aware of anyone who really views Eph as a composite letter. I am not sure how that would work at all, since Ephesians is so tightly argued... But many do view it as a work of someone other than Paul. This view is attacked in this Cambridge volume, which is actually what I would have expected, since Anglo-American scholarship viewed it as authentic much later than German/Continental scholarship. I suspect that you would not find this attractive.

SDG

Ken McGuire

Unix

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/558458#Comment_558458

I'm saving the more general question for another thread which I'm in no hurry to create. As for now I just want to know which volumes from the Cambridge Greek Testament -series to get. If there are better volumes in other sets, You could tell me that without needing to specify which set. I assume You mean by that that there are better commentaries for Phlem - so I'm unlikely to buy the Cambridge Greek Testament -volume:

Unix, if you read your list above you can see why I feel helpless/frustrated when you ask for suggestions - how many of your considerations would I be apt to know? However, if you were to ask "I don't think I have any proper commentary on Phlem. Any suggestions?" I'd feel I had a chance of giving a useful answer.

As I happen to have the most recent ICC volume (from 1994) on 2 Cor 1-7 I have to wonder whether I need this Plummer-volume?:

I recognize the author (Plummer) as one of highly respected commentaries in the ICC series. [...] he speaks of it as an authentic work of Paul, but on the basis of internal evidence sees a reasonable case for a separation between 1-9 and 10-13, as well as 6:14-7:1. I would think this would be a good volume for you to conside:
I looked at the 2 Cor product page in the first place and couldn't figure out if it's any good.

abondservant

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/558656#Comment_558656

As I happen to have the most recent ICC volume (from 1994) on 2 Cor 1-7 I have to wonder whether I need this Plummer-volume?

You're the only one who can really answer that... But by way of guidance and from what I remember of your situation; you have a fixed income, you are not yet in college, and reading for your own personal growth yes?

Have you read the volumes you have on corinthians? If not, then maybe start there. This is rapidly becoming my own philosophy...

Unix

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/558661#Comment_558661

Well I'm trying to "specialize" in that part of 2 Cor, and Jude.

Correct. But I finished college quickly, finished 5 weeks ago. Uni begins on January 22. 2014, that's little more than a fortnight from now. First I'll be taking an English class full-time, then classical Gk at least a year, after that probably NT Gk, and after that I'll see what would be the best option, perhaps shortened engineer studies (one semester college first, then 3 year uni full time) or Theology-classes almost 2 years. I have to decide in what order I would take these studies. If I can mix the order that would be the best:

But by way of guidance and from what I remember of your situation; you have a fixed income, you are not yet in college, and reading for your own personal growth yes?

Have you read the volumes you have on corinthians? If not, then maybe start there. This is rapidly becoming my own philosophy...

abondservant

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/558677#Comment_558677

Well I'm trying to "specialize" in that part of 2 Cor, and Jude.

Correct. But I finished college quickly, finished 5 weeks ago. Uni begins on January 22. 2014, that's little more than a fortnight from now. First I'll be taking an English class full-time, then classical Gk at least a year, after that probably NT Gk, and after that I'll see what would be the best option, perhaps shortened engineer studies (one semester college first, then 3 year uni full time) or Theology-classes almost 2 years. I have to decide in what order I would take these studies. If I can mix the order that would be the best:
But by way of guidance and from what I remember of your situation; you have a fixed income, you are not yet in college, and reading for your own personal growth yes?

Have you read the volumes you have on corinthians? If not, then maybe start there. This is rapidly becoming my own philosophy...

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/558677#Comment_558677

Wow Unix, I don't know your situation, but for being on a fixed income, you must be almost rich to be able to buy all these resources and study full time. I may go back to school either this year or early 2015, but for now I have to do with what I have and put other things I want on payment plan as I owe less and less on my Logos payment plan. Anyway, best of luck finding the appropriate resources that you want.

DAL

Unix

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/558679#Comment_558679

abondservant, ICC is a bit hard to follow at times.
The other one needs to be complemented with something.

DAL, I'm not rich:

Wow Unix, I don't know your situation, but for being on a fixed income, you must be almost rich to be able to buy all these resources and study full time.