Printing does not work, is it me or Logos? Are we locked in and cant get out???
I have spent countless hours pouring stuff into the Logos software. Not to educate a dumb computer, but to use the research in real life. I keep getting the feeling that Logos wants us locked into man-machine time and not actually use what we learn.
The reason I say this is printing.
For example, I have learnt that if one uses Emphasis Markup and for example manually highlight all verses that pertain to baptism. Then if you go to that document and choose "save as passage list" that Logos creates a very useful collection of verses pertaining to baptism. If the list is short, no problem you can print it out. If the list is long, well, you can see it but NO , you CANT print it!
The printing then just goes so far and adds .... and stops!
Try emphasis markup a whole book, eg Isaiah.
What is going on?
Are we captives inside the little Logos world?
Please help. If this is so I'm going to ditch Logos.
There is a limit of 100 pages to print, but I was able to export a List of 6550 passages to Word which was predicted to be 129 pages but came out as 212 pages. It should be possible to print that from Word!?
As long as you are still wanting to print the passages you put into a PL then try what I suggested.
Dave
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I tried exporting to a PDF and was hoping to print out from that. Gave the same errors.
The point is really why are we limited? It is just not right. Its like having to ask the bank to spend your own money thats in your own account. Why are we limited to any number? I think that we should voice our complaints to Logos. I am just not prepared to spend all this time in their software if I am not able to use the fruits of my labour.
Thanks for you tip, I shall try the workaround.
To appease copyright holders.
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In this case, it's like asking the bank to pay out your entire $50,000 balance in nickels: it "should" be allowed, but it may not be practical. [:)]
There are memory and resource constraints associated with preparing the print preview: a printout of hundreds of pages would run out of memory and crash the system. We chose 100 pages as a reasonably high limit that would allow most common uses of the Print feature; I can probably count on one hand the number of times I've had complaints about this limit for user-created documents.
You raise a valid point, though, and there may be ways that we can modify the software to fix this. Perhaps we can show a truncated preview but print the whole document (for user-created documents)? Alternatively, a 64-bit version of Logos may be able to lift this and other limitations.
Thanks for your feedback, and I hope Dave's workaround works for you in the meantime.
Thanks for the clarification Bradley. [:)]
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Regarding your reasoning, there is definitely a limit in place for licensed works; Logos is not intended to be a tool that facilitates the unlicensed reproduction (to paper or PDF) of copyrighted material. But since the OP was printing his own document, I was speaking to the limitation as it related to that.
Thanks for your comments Bradly, but I don't buy them.
The copyright? We had to PAY for the use of the books! We are not busy running printing presses trying to publish our own copies of the NIV! Just think about it. That would be stupid!! In the extreme!!! The costs of copying material in THIS way via LOGOS are so large that even IF one wanted to do this one would run at a loss.
LOGOS is NOT the world. In cyberspace, one can find many many ways of gathering full versions of the bible for FREE and then downloading them and manipulating it in ones own wordprocessor that does NOT artificially curb ones ability to print.
And not enough memory!! I have 32GIGs of RAM in my mac. You cannot confuse me with science Bradly. I write software for a living, and RAM has NOTHING to do with it.
Fact is : this is purely a decision taken by LOGOS and faithfully implement by your programmers to CURB our ability to print out the work that (a) we paid for via paying for LOGOS the software and (b) we paid for the resources and (c) it was our time and effort collating and reassembling and manipulating the resources that we paid for with our time.
And yet LOGOS still thinks that we are going to start our own printing presses.
And LOGOS still thinks that we have no right to our work!!
Bradley if we were that type of people you would NOT find us spending time in LOGOS.
I for one am at the tail end of years of work WITHIN LOGOS and now I NEED to print out some of it.
Think carefully: how many people out there do you think you have annoyed by your artificial printing restraints? Answer: almost all of them.
Why do they not complain: Answer they are Christians and do not LIKE complaining. I too am a christian but I can see thru this mess and I have come to the point where i cant take it anymore.
How many users do you think WOULD actually go out and ABUSE full printing rights? ANSWER almost none. Why? Because they are christians Bradley.
So the current policy angers almost all your clients and is successful at curbing the efforts of maybe 1 or 2 people who might be inclined to abuse the software.
Not clever.
I for one demand change.
LOGOS is amazing software. I just love its ability to form columns of text, the first columm being version A (eg NIV) the second column being version B (eg KJ). One can then study a passage and get a much clearer idea of the original authors intentions.
In real life, I wanted to study the book of Esra, the ENTIRE book. (yes I actually study the entire bible, not 15 verses at a time) People that read a verse a day are so far of the mark its just sad.
So i tried to print a copy of this book, with 4 of my favourites versions side by side.
Why 4? Because that helps me the most!
I then planned to go and sit on the beach in the sun out of the office and let YHWH speak to me thru His word.
Along comes LOGOS and says, um, NO! You don't have enough RAM!! You don;t have a RIGHT to print so much! Printing so much indicates that you have BAD INTENTIONS!.
Guys I'm tired of waiting for common sense to prevail.
To try and help: Consider this:
Instead of curbing printing, ENHANCE IT AND MAKE IT ONE OF THE SHINING FEATURES OF LOGOS!!
why??
Users of Logos feel a strong attachment to the revelation gained thru studying the Word this way. We, and I think I know human nature enough to say we, are in a way very proud of the results of our research. In another way, the work has a special place in our hearts! We are a select group of users: NOT here for business of plundering, BUT here to learn the word of our maker AND to spread it. Thru CURBING PRINTING ARTIFICIALLY you are curbing our ability to spread the results of our labours. So this software is then LIMITED, it only helps learning.
By making a big thing of the printing and putting serious effort into it, you will totally win the hearts and minds of your current client base. They will never leave, why should they?
Currently, people like me ARE going to leave with very bitter sweet memories of LOGOS, a concealed deception that gave us hope and then dashed the hopes at the very end.
Bradley ... that answer comes under the 'duh' category. Previewing and printing's been around since the 80s with considerably smaller buffers. Back in the 'old' days, you told the user about limited preview (often with selective page ranges) but print 'forever'. Logos has certainly come a long way.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.