Android GPS Tracking

I can easily imagine NSA burrowing into Logos (but not Apple) and locating all the Androiders. How will NSA find me??

For most of us using Logos (if not all), the NSA will find us by name and physical address alone. :-)

I think we're looking at just one more parity issue here (I'm sure Drew will quickly correct). But none of my iOS apps from Logos even hint at my location.  Indeed in the iOS settings, Logos doesn't have a place holder in the privacy settings.

I can easily imagine NSA burrowing into Logos (but not Apple) and locating all the Androiders. How will NSA find me??

Denise, you know me so well. [:)]

In Android, apps request permissions in an "all or nothing" manner. The app asks the user if it can access the user's location when the app is first installed, and if the user says no, then, well, you can't install the app. There's no other option.  On iOS, permissions work a little differently...the app requests location access when it first needs it (in the Logos iOS apps, this happens when you first sign in) and the iOS operating system asks the user if it's okay for the app to use their location. Then the user has the ability to deny location access while still using the rest of the app. Denise, it sounds like you denied that permission at some point, which is why you don't see the Logos apps in your iOS settings.

(Note: this is a bit of an oversimplification of how permissions work on both platforms, but I think it's accurate enough for this discussion)

I'm sorry to hear that you're frustrated. I think you may be a little misinformed though, so maybe I can help clear things up. First, the location-based features are built into the Bible and Faithlife Study Bible apps (Biblia, Verbum, Noet, and Vyrso do not request location permissions). These features aren't really meant for users of the Proclaim desktop software, but rather, users who attend churches that use the Proclaim desktop software. A pastor using Proclaim has the ability to include "signals" in the service slides that let users of the mobile apps easily follow along with the Scripture being taught (there are several other features that Proclaim provides, but my intent here is to provide information, not advertise Proclaim ). 

We want to make it as easy as possible for congregation members to connect to their church's Proclaim presentation on their mobile apps. So, the app uses your current location to check if there are any Proclaim presentations going on nearby so you can easily connect. Logos does not track or store your location.

It's perfectly understandable that there are users who don't need or want the Proclaim features of the mobile apps...fortunately, there's an easy way to disable ALL location-based features in the Android apps. Simply tap the "Presentations" item in the left navigation menu and change the "Follow Presentations" switch to "Off". If this switch is off, we never even ask your device for your location, so there's nothing to worry about.

First, I’m not a Proclaim user; the great majority of Logos users don’t use it.  Proclaim is the sideshow to track user's locations.Turning off “follow presentations” does not undo the fact that every user of “Bible” has given up right to be tracked to install or update the app. How do I know I will not be tracked because I turn off “follow presentation”?  The bottom line, I don’t trust Logos Bible Software. There are many Logos users in this forum who trust Logos. I’m not one of them.

I'm sorry to hear that you're frustrated. I think you may be a little misinformed though, so maybe I can help clear things up. First, the location-based features are built into the Bible and Faithlife Study Bible apps (Biblia, Verbum, Noet, and Vyrso do not request location permissions). These features aren't really meant for users of the Proclaim desktop software, but rather, users who attend churches that use the Proclaim desktop software. A pastor using Proclaim has the ability to include "signals" in the service slides that let users of the mobile apps easily follow along with the Scripture being taught (there are several other features that Proclaim provides, but my intent here is to provide information, not advertise Proclaim ). 

We want to make it as easy as possible for congregation members to connect to their church's Proclaim presentation on their mobile apps. So, the app uses your current location to check if there are any Proclaim presentations going on nearby so you can easily connect. Logos does not track or store your location.

It's perfectly understandable that there are users who don't need or want the Proclaim features of the mobile apps...fortunately, there's an easy way to disable ALL location-based features in the Android apps. Simply tap the "Presentations" item in the left navigation menu and change the "Follow Presentations" switch to "Off". If this switch is off, we never even ask your device for your location, so there's nothing to worry about.

First, I’m not a Proclaim user; the great majority of Logos users don’t use it.  Proclaim is the sideshow to track user's locations.Turning off “follow presentations” does not undo the fact that every user of “Bible” has given up right to be tracked to install or update the app. How do I know I will not be tracked because I turn off “follow presentation”?  The bottom line, I don’t trust Logos Bible Software. There are many Logos users in this forum who trust Logos. I’m not one of them.

.fortunately, there's an easy way to disable ALL location-based features in the Android apps. Simply tap the "Presentations" item in the left navigation menu [of Bible and Faithlife] and change the "Follow Presentations" switch to "Off". If this switch is off, we never even ask your device for your location

Thank you, Drew. That's really good to know.