Hey ... what happened to the Baptist Covenant Theology collection

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/575920#Comment_575920

Now it knows how the Hastings 5 volume dictionary feels.

[:'(]

Mike Tourangeau

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/575935#Comment_575935

This ones seems to be fluctuating......can anyone from Logos explain what happened?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576178#Comment_576178

it just went over at $30 but $25 is almost there.

Evan Boardman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576384#Comment_576384

But will it stay over or will it magically go under a day before closing again?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576400#Comment_576400

But will it stay over or will it magically go under a day before closing again?

Oh ye of little faith [:P]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576407#Comment_576407

It's now $25!

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576421#Comment_576421

It's now $25!

We can dirive it back down to 17 if people get on board again! [:D] Those how jumped ship need to jump aboard! [:$]

https://www.logos.com/product/40846/baptist-covenant-theology-collection

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576429#Comment_576429

I've just jumped in. Didn't really care for this collection, but for $25 it's only a little over $1 a volume, so I decided to go for it.

Logos would need to adjust the lower end of the scale to show values less than $22 in order for us to be able to drive it back down to 17.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576430#Comment_576430

I've just jumped in. Didn't really care for this collection, but for $25 it's only a little over $1 a volume, so I decided to go for it.

Logos would need to adjust the lower end of the scale to show values less than $22 in order for us to be able to drive it back down to 17.

We need a few more jumpers! [:D]

Logos: Please change the scale again!

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576432#Comment_576432

We need a few more jumpers!

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576433#Comment_576433

We need a few more jumpers!

You are hilarious Rosie! [:D]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576485#Comment_576485

We need a few more jumpers!

You are hilarious Rosie!

[:D]

Very Cute!

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576518#Comment_576518

Seams like we were here just last week [:O]

It is only Monday, we got a few days to get it lower then the 17 that it reached last week. [:D]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576432#Comment_576432

I've just jumped in. Didn't really care for this collection, but for $25 it's only a little over $1 a volume, so I decided to go for it.

Logos would need to adjust the lower end of the scale to show values less than $22 in order for us to be able to drive it back down to 17.

We need a few more jumpers!

Logos: Please change the scale again!

Bump [:D]

Speed Bump? [^o)]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576526#Comment_576526

down to $20

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576645#Comment_576645

Now $19 - I hope Logos can move some smaller numbers in!

Edwin Sully PAYET

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576663#Comment_576663

Now $19 - I hope Logos can move some smaller numbers in!

I guess we may have to dream about it only...

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576694#Comment_576694

Now $19 - I hope Logos can move some smaller numbers in!

I guess we may have to dream about it only...

It is now at 18!

BUT remember last week they changed it (as requested) and then canceled the whole thing! [:@]

Maybe the costs go up when they change the web page? [;)]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576755#Comment_576755

Now $19 - I hope Logos can move some smaller numbers in!

Bump: Logos are you reading?

Jonathan Sine

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576777#Comment_576777

Weird. Lower numbers have moved in. But the graph line goes way down.

Evan Boardman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576828#Comment_576828

It's under again. Logos needs to look into this. If this doesn't pass for the second week...... You fill in the blank.

Todd Phillips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576829#Comment_576829

Logos: what is going on? Does someone keep moving the goal posts? How can it be at 70% today when it was at 105% yesterday?

https://www.logos.com/product/40846/baptist-covenant-theology-collection

Does Lucy Van Pelt work at Logos, taking away the football when it's about to be kicked? [:D]

Stephen Paynter

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576829#Comment_576829

It is under AGAIN!

Okay, I can understand that on a second look Logos might have revised its estimate of how much this collection will take to make ... but to have to do it twice is hard to believe. It seems more like some kind of glitch. Logos ... what is going on?? A public statement would be nice.

It is really messing with this collection, as people are not being given a sensible range to bid over, perhaps jeopardising the collection, as some people would have bid higher (or lower) if only given a chance.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576833#Comment_576833

Okay, I can understand that on a second look Logos might have revised its estimate of how much this collection will take to make ... but to have to do it twice is hard to believe. It seems more like some kind of glitch. Logos ... what is going on?? A public statement would be nice.

[Y] Logos, will you please respond and FIX this problem!

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576832#Comment_576832

Does Lucy Van Pelt work at Logos, taking away the football when it's about to be kicked?

[:D] [8-)]

Stephen Steele

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576843#Comment_576843

Can't believe it's happened again!

Kent Hendricks

I’m sorry about the confusion in the past couple weeks about the Baptist Covenant Theology Collection.

There are two key factors that have contributed to the fluctuating costs and pricing of this collection:

Many collections have swings in the cost estimate during the first few weeks they’re on Community Pricing. We start with a rough number to get the product posted, and then quickly get a “real” number. Typically, this is at the stage where products have less than 25% covered, so the swings aren’t very visible or noticeable—if they’re present at all. We’ve gotten fairly good at getting our initial estimates close to the real number, but this collection was an obvious exception.
This collection has received far more interest than we anticipated, so by the time we began refining our numbers, the product was already over 100%. It turned out that both times, this collection had a far higher estimate than we anticipated.

As of this morning, the number on the product page is real. This product will not cross into Pre-Pub this Friday. The product page will be updated soon to reflect that.

Robert M. Warren

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576858#Comment_576858

Dear Logos:

You're killing me.

Doc B

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576858#Comment_576858

As of this morning, the number on the product page is real.

I'm usually one of the first to jump on Logos-haters and defend the company, but this fiasco has been a real downer. Hard to defend when a product drops to $18 and says it is going to close only to have the price nearly double.

[:@]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576951#Comment_576951

As of this morning, the number on the product page is real.

I'm usually one of the first to jump on Logos-haters and defend the company, but this fiasco has been a real downer. Hard to defend when a product drops to $18 and says it is going to close only to have the price nearly double.

Who says this is going to close at $30?? That "price" isn't actually real until some idget or two decide to bid hard into that price because that is the green "recommended bid". But just look at the chart, people. $20 is STILL almost as close is $30 is to the top, and if people simply bid that price INSTEAD OF $30, then it will close at $20 or even lower...just not quite as soon as we expected. "Hard to defend?" I thought Kent's explanation made perfect sense. Facts are facts, whether or not they please or are appeasing. Logos thought it was going to be one thing, but it turned out to be something else. So? Granted, it is surprising and a bit shocking to think its almost about to come out of the oven only to find its still raw on the inside, but kvetching won't cook it any faster.

toughski

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576858#Comment_576858

I’m sorry about the confusion in the past couple weeks about the Baptist Covenant Theology Collection.

There are two key factors that have contributed to the fluctuating costs and pricing of this collection:

Many collections have swings in the cost estimate during the first few weeks they’re on Community Pricing. We start with a rough number to get the product posted, and then quickly get a “real” number. Typically, this is at the stage where products have less than 25% covered, so the swings aren’t very visible or noticeable—if they’re present at all. We’ve gotten fairly good at getting our initial estimates close to the real number, but this collection was an obvious exception.

This collection has received far more interest than we anticipated, so by the time we began refining our numbers, the product was already over 100%. It turned out that both times, this collection had a far higher estimate than we anticipated.

As of this morning, the number on the product page is real. This product will not cross into Pre-Pub this Friday. The product page will be updated soon to reflect that.

Kent and Logos, how can you mis-estimate this collection that contains only 17 resources with a median page count of only 83 BY THIS MUCH!!!?

when any business, be it a car mechanic or a door installer quotes a final price that is nearly TWICE the initial "fairly good" estimate, it normally loses my business

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576954#Comment_576954

Facts are facts, whether or not they please or are appeasing.

I am looking at it another way:

1. If the bids were in and the price dropped to 17 dollars, as it did a few days ago, why does Logos not suck up to its mistake, be happy that that many people WERE interested in the collection, and then let us have it for that price?

2. Why should we suffer because Logos screwed up on its projected price? [:@] You have the whole life of the company to recover the cost!

3. Yes it really brings tears to my eyes that people bid faster then logos expected. [:'(]

4. Logos should have honored the CP the FIRST time it went over the line (not to mention the SECOND time).

5. This form now has screen shots of each mistake (broken promises) that Logos made with this CP product. [:$]

6. Logos you made the rules and now it seems like when it is not in its favor, you change the height of the goal posts.

7. This must be the NEW LOGOS because it is not the OLD LOGOS I have know for over 10 years!

8. Face it, you really created bad will due to your marketing mistake! Find a CS person to fix it!

9. Judging from the way it has been done in the past you (logos) usually make up the money by charging a higher Per-Pub price and high FINAL Price to the late adopters, why did you not do it with this one, swallow your pride, and save all of this confusion and ill will?

Maybe it is time for Bob to jump in with his fire extinguisher and restore some good will in regards to this product!

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576957#Comment_576957

Kent and Logos, how can you mis-estimate this collection that contains only 17 resources with a median page count of only 83 BY THIS MUCH!!!?

They made a mistake! [:O] I can live with that. [:(]

But they are morally responsible to honor there implied contacts! [:O]

They blow it!

I suspect (Like Logos) knows every person that bid on the first round and second round and they could honor those WINNING Bids if they wanted to.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576957#Comment_576957

I’m sorry about the confusion in the past couple weeks about the Baptist Covenant Theology Collection.

There are two key factors that have contributed to the fluctuating costs and pricing of this collection:

Many collections have swings in the cost estimate during the first few weeks they’re on Community Pricing. We start with a rough number to get the product posted, and then quickly get a “real” number. Typically, this is at the stage where products have less than 25% covered, so the swings aren’t very visible or noticeable—if they’re present at all. We’ve gotten fairly good at getting our initial estimates close to the real number, but this collection was an obvious exception.

This collection has received far more interest than we anticipated, so by the time we began refining our numbers, the product was already over 100%. It turned out that both times, this collection had a far higher estimate than we anticipated.

As of this morning, the number on the product page is real. This product will not cross into Pre-Pub this Friday. The product page will be updated soon to reflect that.

Kent and Logos, how can you mis-estimate this collection that contains only 17 resources with a median page count of only 83 BY THIS MUCH!!!?

when any business, be it a car mechanic or a door installer quotes a final price that is nearly TWICE the initial "fairly good" estimate, it normally loses my business

Obviously, the mind-bending intricacies of CP are still confusing people. This isn't even remotely close to being a 100% increase ("twice as much") over the price it was at earlier. In fact, it really isn't an increase in COST TO YOU (you, the bidder) in any way whatsoever. The only real change to us is that It's just not about to process as soon as we expected, that's all. Big deal. But let's look at what's actually happening. The line of bids was riding the 100% mark...now it's down to about 65% or so. That's a shift of about 1/3 to 1/2 from where it was before, as a quick eyeball of the chart indicates. That might sound like a HUGE shift, but if the cost for this project isn't very high to start with, a fairly small dollar change in costs creates a big percentage change.

The main thing that happened here is that expectations got tweaked, and people seem to really hate that, regardless of what the actual impact of the tweak is. I rather strongly suggest that folks lay off the indignation, especially over something is inconsequential as the $5-$10 worst case scenario that's "in play" for this CP. The reality is that EVERYONE is destined to have their expectations tweaked much harder when prophecy starts to play out in the next few years. The projection is that "love will grow cold", when what is really called for is just a simple readjustment of expectations to what was actually true all along. The shock will be massive, but the negative psychological effect will seem objectionable more for the shift of expectation and need for readjustment rather than for the "cost" of the necessary shift. People have either not counted the true cost or miscalculated what the cost truly is. Prophecy says that the reaction will be indignation rather than simple and rather innocuous readjustment. The true "cost" will be paid by those whose indignation and pride prevents accepting the requirements of the "new" (but was always true) expectation.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576963#Comment_576963

Facts are facts, whether or not they please or are appeasing.

I am looking at it another way:

1. If the bids were in and the price dropped to 17 dollars, as it did a few days ago, why does Logos not suck up to its mistake, be happy that that many people WERE interested in the collection, and then let us have it for that price?

2. Why should we suffer because Logos screwed up on its projected price? You have the whole life of the company to recover the cost!

3. Yes it really brings tears to my eyes that people bid faster then logos expected.

4. Logos should have honored the CP the FIRST time it went over the line (not to mention the SECOND time).

5. This form now has screen shots of each mistake (broken promises) that Logos made with this CP product.

6. Logos you made the rules and now it seems like when it is not in its favor, you change the height of the goal posts.

7. This must be the NEW LOGOS because it is not the OLD LOGOS I have know for over 10 years!

8. Face it, you really created bad will due to your marketing mistake! Find a CS person to fix it!

9. Judging from the way it has been done in the past you (logos) usually make up the money by charging a higher Per-Pub price and high FINAL Price to the late adopters, why did you not do it with this one, swallow your pride, and save all of this confusion and ill will?

Maybe it is time for Bob to jump in with his fire extinguisher and restore some good will in regards to this product!

The arrogance in this post is astonishing.

1) ANSWER: Why should they? They have no reason to. They owe you NOTHING.

2) ANSWER: Suffer???? Are you utterly mad??!?? In what way have you suffered ANYTHING whatsoever????? You have some shockingly difficult times ahead, and if this is suffering on your watch, you won't survive the first 10 minutes to come.

After those two doozies, my need to even bother with further response is beyond necessary and could be considered piling on.

Wow.

abondservant

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576963#Comment_576963

Facts are facts, whether or not they please or are appeasing.

I am looking at it another way:

1. If the bids were in and the price dropped to 17 dollars, as it did a few days ago, why does Logos not suck up to its mistake, be happy that that many people WERE interested in the collection, and then let us have it for that price?

2. Why should we suffer because Logos screwed up on its projected price? You have the whole life of the company to recover the cost!

3. Yes it really brings tears to my eyes that people bid faster then logos expected.

4. Logos should have honored the CP the FIRST time it went over the line (not to mention the SECOND time).

5. This form now has screen shots of each mistake (broken promises) that Logos made with this CP product.

6. Logos you made the rules and now it seems like when it is not in its favor, you change the height of the goal posts.

7. This must be the NEW LOGOS because it is not the OLD LOGOS I have know for over 10 years!

8. Face it, you really created bad will due to your marketing mistake! Find a CS person to fix it!

9. Judging from the way it has been done in the past you (logos) usually make up the money by charging a higher Per-Pub price and high FINAL Price to the late adopters, why did you not do it with this one, swallow your pride, and save all of this confusion and ill will?

Maybe it is time for Bob to jump in with his fire extinguisher and restore some good will in regards to this product!

To me, it being postponed is not a big deal. Logos has erred in my favor on a few occasions - incl with free resources on one or two occasions (an upgrade to a commentary set valued at 70$ and another time with the Exegetical summaries they made a mistake and honored it for me, which cost them ~25$), and told me to keep them... I'm not going to quibble over a resource taking an extra week or three. Bob and Dan are good guys, and have good hearts. When something needs to be made right, they do. However, personally, I'm not sure this is one of those times.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576966#Comment_576966

Kent and Logos, how can you mis-estimate this collection that contains only 17 resources with a median page count of only 83 BY THIS MUCH!!!?

They made a mistake! I can live with that.

But they are morally responsible to honor there implied contacts!

NO, they aren't. Because this isn't a contract until both sides seal the deal.

They blow it!

Are you still wet behind the ears, or do you just have Alzheimer's? Bob made good on a company mistake to the tune of tens of thousand of dollars a few months back. In my opinion, that was a huge error on his part...he actually, imo, encouraged future shady behavior on the part of customers. But such behavior has now been condoned as Logos's standard operating procedure. In other words, his attempt to "do the right thing" in customers eyes actually may have been very much the wrong thing.

Regardless, your charge that Logos "blows it" is petulant and shamelessly self-serving. The old saw, "customers are always right" is a LIE. They are often arrogant, spoiled brats. Case in point...

abondservant

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576977#Comment_576977

Kent and Logos, how can you mis-estimate this collection that contains only 17 resources with a median page count of only 83 BY THIS MUCH!!!?

They made a mistake! I can live with that.

But they are morally responsible to honor there implied contacts!

NO, they aren't. Because this isn't a contract until both sides seal the deal.

They blow it!

Are you still wet behind the ears, or do you just have Alzheimer's? Bob made good on a company mistake to the tune of tens of thousand of dollars a few months back. In my opinion, that was a huge error on his part...he actually, imo, encouraged future shady behavior on the part of customers. But such behavior has now been condoned as Logos's standard operating procedure.

Regardless, your charge that Logos "blows it" is petulant and shamelessly self-serving. The old saw, "customers are always right" is a LIE. They are often arrogant, spoiled brats. Case in point...

I am often guilty of what I'm about to say, and so please take this advice as from one who knows experientialy. Calling someone "petulant", "Arrogant", "Spoiled", "brats" is perhaps not the best way to influence an individual. I can see where some might be galled by some of the things that are said, but do remember the old adage about drawing flies with honey instead of vinegar.

Further I'm pretty sure Christ would have made a pithy quip that would have caught people off guard a little, and made the crowd re-think their own positions... IE Render to Ceaser what is Ceaser's. I'm not trying to be insulting or abrasive (something we Americans are renowned for =x) so I hope you don't take it in that manner. Instead I mean this brother to brother. Lets speak the truth in love, and really in the end, if three people quit buying from logos over a pair of small errors, than what was really lost? I don't know that this is true of these specific people (and I hope its not), however its been my experience that some people are simply looking for an excuse; and we all know that when you're looking for an excuse any will do.

Finally, we don't know whats going on in their own lives right now that inspires an individual to be bellicose. Perhaps an unexpected bill, a death in the family, a crisis at church, lack of sleep, etc etc etc.

Someone was rude to me relatively recently... Really rude, and I responded in a way I can't describe as Christ-like. Come to find out (days later) they had just lost their mother - the day of the conflict no less. I'm making a concerted effort to step back and give others the benefit of the doubt. If they are cranky, something has happened to make them this way - perhaps addressing them in love (after all a kind answers turns away wrath) will help settle things.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576982#Comment_576982

I can't for the life of me comprehend any reason why I would ever want to draw flies.

That said, I don't focus on "a soft answer turns away wrath" to the exclusion of "there is a time for war and a time for peace". The first isn't always true, as the second fully asserts. Generally, the "soft" side of YHWH is given a spotlight while the hard and rough side is ignored to near exclusion. I do what I think is best in a given situation. As Opie and history can attest, bullies tend to respond best to a sock in the nose. Anything less tends to just exacerbate the status quo. The knuckle sandwich, on the other hand, often serves the bully and the bullied best, because it breaks the inappropriate cycle of behavior.

Yeishuu`a's willingness to be slapped around was literally an act...the act of the Lamb. But it isn't His only performance...He is going to do an encore as the Lion of Judah. The carnage will be beyond description. Oddly, that will result in drawing more flies than all the honey on the planet ever could. Amen.

Jason Delgado

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/576858#Comment_576858

It just did it again! I'm not trying to sound like a jerk or anything, but even if there is glitches will Logos not honor the prices when it says stuff that sounds like a guarantee (i.e. "$17 your bid will be successful")?

Yesterday it was down under $20 again (2nd week in a row) and said it was going to end this Friday (after the official word, "As of this morning, the number on the product page is real.") and now it is saying $30 is the projected price but now $30 is under 80% when twice in the last two weeks it has been well over 100%.

Is there any way we can know when the price is legit? It is getting hard to assume the best.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/577040#Comment_577040

In my town, there have been negotiations to bring a large commercial development that will set up shop at the interstate junction...for years. It has almost happened 2-3 times, and then something happens to cause a setback. The simple fact is, until there is a deal, there is no deal.

Is there any way we can know when the price is legit? It is getting hard to assume the best.

Yes, when the process finally closes and not before...and "assume" has its reputation for a reason--it specializes in frustration and egg-face. Best to avoid it at all costs.

Paul

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/577144#Comment_577144

Psalm 15:4b says (in effect) that a godly man keeps his word even when it hurts him to do so. I can’t help thinking that this collection would be much further along the road to production if all parties heeded this Biblical principle.

BIDDERS: When you initially pledge to pay a certain amount for this collection, please do not lower your bid. Not only are you failing to keep your word, but you are actually driving the final price of this product higher, not lower. If, when production is complete, Logos generously offers you a final price that is lower than your original bid, that’s fine. But if you make a bid, keep your word and stick with it, even if it hurts.

LOGOS: When you announce that you intend to close community pricing because you now have sufficient bids to cover the cost of production, please honour that commitment. When you fail to keep your word on two separate occasions, it does carry with it the appearance of evil intentions. You may have made a mistake in your calculations, but please keep your word, even if it hurts your bottom line.

SOLUTION: Don’t wait for the other party to fulfill their Biblical obligations. Keep the pledge you originally made! Bidders, if that means changing your current bid back to your original one, then do so. Keep your word, even if it hurts.

Reformed Baptist men and women, we claim that God is glorified when we obey His Word from the heart. Let us demonstrate by our actions that our claims to be wholly committed to His Word are indeed genuine. Let us obey the principle of Psalm 15:4b, and imitate the character of our Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ, who always keeps His promises, even when it hurt Him to do so.

Bruce Dunning

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/577273#Comment_577273

Welcome to the forums Paul.

I appreciate your efforts to express your thoughts but I am afraid that I have a different perspective than you do. Psalm 15 is one of my favorite passages and I especially appreciate verse 4. I believe that we need to keep our word if it is not convenient or even if it hurts.

But I don't believe voting in Community Pricing is an "ethical" discussion but a strategic one. By placing a bid a bidder is not pledging or promising to pay that amount but rather expressing what they may be willing to pay if it crosses 100%. At any time the option exists to withdraw or change your bid. That is how the system has been established.

GaoLu

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/577273#Comment_577273

It's about time for me to weigh in (picture of man in shock standing on a scales and found wanting).

I tend to side with Logos on this issue.

But.

When I get an email that says something that makes me feel like "Congratulations! You won!" and I start to drool and then I find to my great travail that after all my hopes and stress of bidding that I haven't won after all, then I tend to side with me (note all the "me! me!" pronouns there). You know how men are supposed to get all in touch with their feelings these days? Well it makes me feel all 1 Thess 5:3 -- For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

I am over it already.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/577273#Comment_577273

Psalm 15:4b says (in effect) that a godly man keeps his word even when it hurts him to do so. I can’t help thinking that this collection would be much further along the road to production if all parties heeded this Biblical principle.

BIDDERS: When you initially pledge to pay a certain amount for this collection, please do not lower your bid. Not only are you failing to keep your word, but you are actually driving the final price of this product higher, not lower. If, when production is complete, Logos generously offers you a final price that is lower than your original bid, that’s fine. But if you make a bid, keep your word and stick with it, even if it hurts.

LOGOS: When you announce that you intend to close community pricing because you now have sufficient bids to cover the cost of production, please honour that commitment. When you fail to keep your word on two separate occasions, it does carry with it the appearance of evil intentions. You may have made a mistake in your calculations, but please keep your word, even if it hurts your bottom line.

SOLUTION: Don’t wait for the other party to fulfill their Biblical obligations. Keep the pledge you originally made! Bidders, if that means changing your current bid back to your original one, then do so. Keep your word, even if it hurts.

Reformed Baptist men and women, we claim that God is glorified when we obey His Word from the heart. Let us demonstrate by our actions that our claims to be wholly committed to His Word are indeed genuine. Let us obey the principle of Psalm 15:4b, and imitate the character of our Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ, who always keeps His promises, even when it hurt Him to do so.

So, I "assume" that you aren't a dispensationalist, since that would entail YHWH changing when He said He changes not. I also assume you offer animal sacrifices every day according to the Word of YHWH. I also assume that you are not and will not participate in March Madness, since that entails engaging in a sales price after a retail price has already been established. I also assume that to this day you never cross the street since your mother told you to never go into the street when you were a child. I could go on confidently assuming many such things, could I not?