Bob Pritchett wrote the following post at Mon, Aug 1 2011 1:00 PM:

I just want to give a quick "heads up" about the PBB distribution terms. While you'll be able to build whatever you want with PBB, distribution will be supported via our Logos online systems. (Both from your personal page as well as from a central bookstore.)

The bookstore will make it easy to share content with others, and will offer the same cloud-based downloading, syncing, multi-computer use, etc. that Logos-created books support.

For this reason, though, Logos is going to have some content restrictions on the bookstore -- we aren't looking to create an editing tool, for example, that lets people create lower-quality and lower-price versions of public domain content we sell in high-quality editions, and then use our systems, servers, etc. to distribute them.

The policies and procedures aren't done, and we're still thinking through all the issues. But I want to point out early-on that the goal of PBB is to support "personal" use. This means you can do whatever you want for yourself, but if you want to use our systems to share/distribute the content, we'll be offering support for sharing your "personal" content, not for going into competition with Logos on public domain (or licensed non-PD) content.

-- Bob

Should I just "bump" this or formally ask for a status update? I've given it > 1000 days so I don't think I'm being too hasty but I am particularly interested in the "bookstore" aspect.

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Matthew C Jones

Should I just "bump" this or formally ask for a status update? I've given it > 1000 days so I don't think I'm being too hasty but I am particularly interested in the "bookstore" aspect.

How about asking for a status report? I don't think it is asking too much.

Paul C

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/591498#Comment_591498

Did you factor in the day for a year principal?

Paul Golder

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/591512#Comment_591512

But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

2 Peter 3:8

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/591512#Comment_591512

Did you factor in the day for a year principal?

I thought it was 1000 years are like a day in God's sight. (Ps 90:4). So 1000 days are like 1/365 of a day, about 4 minutes. Be more patient, Martha.

Paul C

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/591518#Comment_591518

I thought it was 1000 years are like a day in God's sight

I was referring to the Day/Year prophecy principal used in certain Theologies. >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day-year_principle ... But your example is even more stark.

Bob Pritchett

Not forgotten, but has been waiting for lots of other projects that deliver the required tech and back-end support... still coming...

Paul C

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/591561#Comment_591561

Not forgotten, but has been waiting for lots of other projects that deliver the required tech and back-end support... still coming...

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/591561#Comment_591561

Thank you Bob. That is reassuring.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/591589#Comment_591589

If one looks at line 3 of the Logos6 feature details, on the beta site.[6]

Paul C

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/591599#Comment_591599

If one looks at line 3 of the Logos6 feature details, on the beta site.

Here's the new logo. At least for today.

mike

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/591599#Comment_591599

I believe Logos is neglecting the internal quality products, the core/heart of the software.

Too many community pricing books being published, selling packages without "what's new to me" page, the perpetual indexing problems, now that everyone has bigger library the system isn't optimized for large libraries, no dynamic pricing on MANY of bundles yet, the main website still not updated on what's the "real best selling" books, on and on and on .....

Also, selling packages with many unwanted CP products that don't sell well is.. Hmm.. Kinda cheap. (some call it balance, i dont)

Please fix these pending problems BOB.. I growing weary everyday

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/591604#Comment_591604

Ok, Pilate ... er Paul. I saw that line before you changed it. Need I quote the famous question in the previous dispensation .... 'What is truth?'

And mike ... really. Weary from a company being TOO productive?? 'Too many CP books ...'?? And if I remember, the dynamic pricing was a kudos to Logos (who had no responsibility to do it).

Selling cheerios in the small-box cereals package, when it's the sugar pops that you wanted?

What?

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/591604#Comment_591604

Also, selling packages with many unwanted CP products that don't sell well is.. Hmm..

Do you have data to back this up? Speaking only for myself, the vast quantity of "unwanted products" in my library are not CP's but (a) ministerial & church administration resources that don't apply to my denomination (b) language resources that would be useful if I wished to pretend I knew Biblical languages ... which I hope to someday make useful and (c) books by authors whose main value to me is as examples of logical fallacies.

Paul C

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/591608#Comment_591608

Ok, Pilate ... er Paul. I saw that line before you changed it.

I wanted to support you ... just thought better of twisting the truth quite that tight. Forgive me? [:D]

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/591611#Comment_591611

Well, after you bannered the Logos6 logo, they removed the features page. Great going!

But I appreciate the support.

I suspect L6 is 'the truth' or at least it would be if I was Logos CEO .... publishable PBs are going to revolutionize the Bible study world, especially if there's a 'store'.

I can easily see this as a mini-Amazon publishing world. Who knows. I'm thinking in Japan. Korea. Pretty wild Bible study world in the future.

Also pastors within a denomination where central management is a no-no.

Plus at last, we could see what David Paul's been trying to explain!

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/591602#Comment_591602

Here's the new logo. At least for today.

Hmm, methinks this was snagged from somewhere else:

http://logos.wikia.com/wiki/Logopedia:Theme/Logos_with_the_number_6

[:P]

Paul C

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/591612#Comment_591612

Plus at last, we could see what David Paul's been trying to explain!

I have only felt the desire to type LOL twice in my internet career. Atta-Boy Girl.[:P][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:P]

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/591618#Comment_591618

Plus at last, we could see what David Paul's been trying to explain!

And maybe we'll finally get to see that Revelation commentary George Somsel has been working on since he was 14.

Donnie Hale

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/591635#Comment_591635

And maybe we'll finally get to see that Revelation commentary George Somsel has been working on since he was 14.

The greatest attraction to the forums which keeps me coming back. Come on, George - publish it already!

[;)]

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/591714#Comment_591714

. Come on, George - publish it already!

You realize he's waiting until events prove his interpretation is correct, don't you? Until then there's always one more detail to research[8-|]

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/591839#Comment_591839

. Come on, George - publish it already!

You realize he's waiting until events prove his interpretation is correct, don't you? Until then there's always one more detail to research

He's waiting until he's old enough to be taken seriously. Someone of only 39 doesn't appear to be seasoned enough to have something to say about Revelation that's worth listening to. Unfortunately, as soon as his next birthday rolls around, he turns 39 again so he cannot gain that grey-haired wisdom.

William Gabriel

I just want to give a quick "heads up" about the PBB distribution terms. While you'll be able to build whatever you want with PBB, distribution will be supported via our Logos online systems. (Both from your personal page as well as from a central bookstore.)

The bookstore will make it easy to share content with others, and will offer the same cloud-based downloading, syncing, multi-computer use, etc. that Logos-created books support.

For this reason, though, Logos is going to have some content restrictions on the bookstore -- we aren't looking to create an editing tool, for example, that lets people create lower-quality and lower-price versions of public domain content we sell in high-quality editions, and then use our systems, servers, etc. to distribute them.

The policies and procedures aren't done, and we're still thinking through all the issues. But I want to point out early-on that the goal of PBB is to support "personal" use. This means you can do whatever you want for yourself, but if you want to use our systems to share/distribute the content, we'll be offering support for sharing your "personal" content, not for going into competition with Logos on public domain (or licensed non-PD) content.

-- Bob

Should I just "bump" this or formally ask for a status update? I've given it > 1000 days so I don't think I'm being too hasty but I am particularly interested in the "bookstore" aspect.

This probably isn't the best place to post this idea, but this post helped me think of it.

I think we might be able to use distributed personal books of public domain works to help encourage their development within Logos. What if someone took a PD book, like Arthur Pink's Sovereignty of God that gets passed around the forums, invested some time into it and shared it with Logos users (perhaps others could improve tagging and turn it into a community product).

Perhaps Logos could make the personal book distribution system one that has an agreement that allows them to use the community work to make an official Logos product at some point in the future. When they finish that work, the personal book disappears from the distribution system and no one is permitted to add that title again. Perhaps offer CP discounts to those who had downloaded the community book and charge full price to other Logos users.

We could help each other. Resources would get produced faster with our labor and then we'd get the products we want, we'd get great prices when resources were published, and I think there would be much rejoicing.

Thought of it because someone sent me a link to Matthew Henry's book on prayer and I thought it should be in Logos: https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/35776

Jacob Hantla

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/591561#Comment_591561

Not forgotten, but has been waiting for lots of other projects that deliver the required tech and back-end support... still coming...

The original post from Bob has been on my mind the entire time I've seen Faithlife and Vyrso under construction. Excited about the possibility if done right.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/592247#Comment_592247

I think we might be able to use distributed personal books of public domain works to help encourage their development within Logos

An interesting idea. I like it especially for resources that have a small demand but are essential for that small group.