Anyone want to run the Logos Android app on an E-Ink tablet or e-reader?

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  • NYSERVANT
    NYSERVANT Member Posts: 191

    Hey Mark,  Have you found any other bug on this setup?  It seems like suddenly the program keeps telling me my username and password is invalid (I've checked, double checks, changed password, changed email, deleted all the "mobile devices" from my account", reinstalled the app, reinstalled android completely).  

      I think it might have something to do with the the fact that the date cannot be adjusted.  The date issue also seems to be a reason why reading plans don't seem to sync.  

       Any ideas? 

  • Mark Nolette
    Mark Nolette Member Posts: 508 ✭✭

    Hi,

    I have not run into that specific bug, but the settings in this version of Android are limited. You won't find much for account settings, and it's hard, if not impossible, to change the date. That probably reflects the limitations of the original Tolino setup. Someone more skilled than I would need to do a few hacks to restore some of those things. 

    I haven't run into any Logos bugs yet, though. The app seems to work well. I don't really know why it's giving you those invalid password errors. Here's one thought. I have noticed that sometimes wifi will simply turn itself off for no apparent reason. (That doesn't happen in Kobo's operating system.) Check to see if wifi is actually on when those errors start up. It may be a wifi issue. 

  • NYSERVANT
    NYSERVANT Member Posts: 191

    Thanks Mark, yeah I tried the wifi thing (I noticed that too).  I reached out to angor to see if I can find out about possibly changing the date. 

      I'm gonna keep trying to get this working

  • Bentley Crawford
    Bentley Crawford Member Posts: 104

    Mark, 

    Do you have this set-up up and running? Are you satisfied with it? Have you tried running the Kindle app as well? Thanks!

  • Mark Nolette
    Mark Nolette Member Posts: 508 ✭✭

    Yes, I've had it running for about two weeks now. I was looking for a way to run the Logos app on an E-Ink device so that I could use the Passage Guide and read Logos resources on E-Ink. This setup works well for me for those two purposes, so I am satisfied with it. I haven't tried other Logos features on this setup. I usually do any heavier research on my desktop Logos program. As a bonus, I wanted to be able to install a few other text-intensive apps on this setup. Instapaper works well. I don't use it for video or games, though crosswords and sudoku work fine. 

    I installed a version of the Kindle app from someone on XDA developers who adapted the app to look a little better on an E-Ink device (he was using a rooted Nook Simple Touch). I installed that on this setup, and it works fine. I tried the regular Nook app. It installs and runs, but there is something odd about the appearance. When you're reading a page on a Nook book, it's as though there was a crack from the bottom left to the top right of the page. Every word that the crack runs through is slightly separated, like the two halves were tectonic plates that moved just a bit along the fault. Every page has this phenomenon. 

  • Bentley Crawford
    Bentley Crawford Member Posts: 104

    Very cool Mark! I'm wanting to do the same thing. I'd like to have it simply as a dedicated reading device to utilize both my Logos and Kindle libraries. Question, does the highlighting and note-taking work well when reading a Logos book?

  • Mark Nolette
    Mark Nolette Member Posts: 508 ✭✭

    Yes, both highlighting and note-taking work well. When you add a note, the background of the note window is dark, but the text you type shows up well enough. Considering that we're talking E-Ink and a device that wasn't designed with such apps in mind, I'm impressed by how well it does work.

  • Bentley Crawford
    Bentley Crawford Member Posts: 104

    Hey guys, I finally got my Aura HD in and am getting starting trying to make this work. I'm using a Macbook Pro with Windows 7 running via Parallels. I can't get the Image writing software to work. Neither the WinImage will install nor the USB Duplicator Image writer that Angor linked to. Any help on how I can write the image to my SD card with my setup?

  • Mark Nolette
    Mark Nolette Member Posts: 508 ✭✭

    That's very odd. I did it on a MacBook Pro running Windows 8.1 on Fusion. Did you get any error messages when you tried to install WinImage on Windows? Try running Windows in full screen more (or whatever the equivalent is on Parallels). If you've tried that, or if that doesn't help, you might try this thread on mobilereads.com, as it is more active than Angor's blog: http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231681

  • Bentley Crawford
    Bentley Crawford Member Posts: 104

    Thanks Mark! After a couple of times of shutting down Windows it appeared. I then downloaded Winzip to unzip the .7z file and then wrote it to the SD card via WinImage. It appeared to have worked. Then, I opened it in MiniTool but really wasn't able to figure out how to alter the partitions. Instead of seeing 5 partitions as NYSERVANT mentioned it appeared that there was only one and it was only using around 16mbs of space. Any idea on what I did wrong there?

  • Mark Nolette
    Mark Nolette Member Posts: 508 ✭✭

    Try ejecting your sd card adapter from your Mac. Then reinsert it. See if that helps. Try MiniTool again. It looks like you could only see what Windows would see. If that doesn't work, redo the image with WinImage. There may have been an error in the image restore process. 

  • Bentley Crawford
    Bentley Crawford Member Posts: 104

    Thanks so much for your help Mark. If you have a moment, would you mind giving me an idiots guide breakdown to how you wrote the file to the card using Winzip? I'm obviously doing something wrong.

  • Mark Nolette
    Mark Nolette Member Posts: 508 ✭✭

    Okay. I'll see what I can do. I will redo this piece myself, using another microSD card, and take notes as I go. In this way, I won't miss some important step. Some people have had problems with certain brands of microSD cards. I have had the best luck with SanDisk Class 4 cards. Other cards do work, but those SanDisk ones have worked best for me. Your card should be at least 8 gigs. It can be as large as 32 gigs.

    First of all, let's make sure we have the right image file. You should have 2014-02-28_Android_Kobo_Aura_HD.7z. I use WinRAR to unzip, but WinZip should work. When the file is unzipped, it should be 2014-02-28_Android_Kobo_Aura_HD.img. If that's what you have, we should be good. The img file should be almost 6.7 gigs once unzipped.

    Now, go to WinImage. Choose Disk - Restore Virtual Hard Disk Image on physical drive. The next window that pops up should have Disk 1, and the approximate sixe of the microSD card you are using. Click the Disk 1 line to highlight it, then OK. Now, you need to tell Win Image where your file is. When you're in the right folder, you still won't see the image file. Near the bottom of the window, just to the right of "file name", is a drop-down menu that has Virtual hard Disks selected. Click this, and select All Files. Then select the img file. Click open. You'll get a warning - do you REALLY want to do this? Click OK and the writing process begins. Now you just wait a few minutes.

    End of Part 1! Once my sd card is done, I'll write part 2!

  • Mark Nolette
    Mark Nolette Member Posts: 508 ✭✭

    This isn't Part 2 yet, but I wonder if WinZip is the problem. Can it unzip 7z files? That, I don't know.

  • Mark Nolette
    Mark Nolette Member Posts: 508 ✭✭

    Okay. On to Part 2!

    Start MiniTool Partition Wizard. You have to select it again as it loads. Once it's loaded, you should see at least two disks - your hard drive and the microSD card. On the microSD card, you should see this, going from left to right: unallocated space of about 30 mb; the Kobo EXTSD partition (5.5 gb), Android Data (695 mb);  Android System (198 mb); and the remainder is more unallocated space. What you need to do is move the data and system partitions to the far right side, beginning with system. Hover the cursor over the system partition and right click. Choose move/resize from the menu. A window pops up. Move your cursor onto the partition. The cursor turns to a fancy cross (can't remember the formal name!). Click and hold, then drag the partition to the right end, and release. Then click OK. Do the same with the data partition. Then right click the Kobo EXTSD partition and select Extend. This is how you'll use all that extra unallocated space. When the extend window pops up, move your cursor to that virtual lever at the center of the bar in the middle, and slide it to the far right. Then click OK. You need to leave that 30 mb of unallocated space on the left alone. Your Kobo will not boot into Android without it. Then, eject your card, turn off your Kobo, and insert the card. Push and hold the light button, and then slide the red power button to on. The white light should come on and then brighten. When it brightens, you can release both buttons, and you should be booting into Android in a minute or two, if all goes well! 

    Hope this helps.

  • Mark Nolette
    Mark Nolette Member Posts: 508 ✭✭

    Oh yes - one more very important detail. When you've done all your work in MiniTool, be sure to click Apply. You'll find it on the left of the menu bar. Nothing really changes till you click Apply. 

  • Bentley Crawford
    Bentley Crawford Member Posts: 104

    Mark, awesome! Very helpful! I'm going to try to collate all of this into an easy to follow PDF soon. I also was able to use Terminal on my Mac to write the unzipped .7z file to the SD card via these command lines:

    Type and Enter:

    diskutil list

    - find which number the disk is you are looking to modify.

    Type and Enter:

    diskutil unmountDisk /dev/disk#

    Type and Enter:

    sudo dd bs=1m if=/Your/File/Path.img of=/dev/rdisk1

    - this took around 10 to 15 mins. It will appear that nothing is happening and then a dialogue will come up saying that it happened successfully.
  • Bentley Crawford
    Bentley Crawford Member Posts: 104

    Mark, finally, what is the deal with the patches? My device did not load and reboot in changing them over as Angor's article described.... I did put them both on there in the .Kobo folder and restart each time. Now I opened it as if I was entering into Android and it is taking a while. Seems to be running the patch now?

  • Mark Nolette
    Mark Nolette Member Posts: 508 ✭✭

    When I put the first patch into that .kobo folder on my Kobo and then ejected the Kobo, it then restarted and did its thing very quickly. That patch basically allows your Aura HD to boot into Android. The second patch and reboot took longer, because what that does is make a backup of your Kobo firmware on your microSD card. That should take fifteen minutes. (Frankly, I don't see the point, because restoring from the sd card would be really hard.) When you first boot into Android, it will take longer. Then you'll need to do the usual setup. Oh, and some of it will be in Russian! There's a post on Angor's blog that tells you how to change the language to English. 

  • Bentley Crawford
    Bentley Crawford Member Posts: 104

    Mark, sorry to keep asking... So my problem right now is that when I got to install the patches the Kobo proceeds on unaffected. Just to recap... I'm using a 32GB Sandisk 4 class as suggested. I was able to get the image written to the SD card and reapportion the partitions as described. However, for the life of me, I can't get the Kobo to update and reboot following putting the patch in the .kobo folder on the Kobo's internal card. 

    I've tried dragging the unzipped file into the .kobo folder. I've tried dragging the zipped file into the .kobo folder and then unzipping it there. Still nothing. I've tried downloading the zipped file directly into the .kobo folder and then unzipping. Nada. Each time I eject both drives (internal and external) and I unplug. The device just goes directly to the Kobo home screen. I'm using a Mac to run all of this. Any thoughts on how to get these patches working?

  • Bentley Crawford
    Bentley Crawford Member Posts: 104

    I'm starting over from scratch with the SD card and write to it exactly according to your instructions... Also, a factory reset to the Kobo...

  • Mark Nolette
    Mark Nolette Member Posts: 508 ✭✭

    Hi, sorry I've been out of radio contact for a while...

    I don't have a clue as to why those patches aren't working for you. You're doing just what you're supposed to do, and trying all the options that people on Angor's blog suggested. It happened to work for me on the first try, for some reason! Yes, a factory reset of the Kobo is what I'd recommend. If you still have trouble with the patches, I'd go to that mobileread forum I gave you the link to in one of my posts in this thread. Someone there might have a better idea.

  • Bentley Crawford
    Bentley Crawford Member Posts: 104

    So get this, first I had to restart the writing the image to the SD Card as mentioned above. Then, I finally got the first patch to work. My Mac was automatically unzipping the downloaded file. I was able to download it into Windows without unzipping. Then I dragged the unzipped file into the .kobo folder on my Kobo Device. Then I unzipped it, in the .kobo folder with WinZip. Upon disconnecting it finally recognized it and restarted and updated.

    Secondly, it took another while to figure out the second patch. Here is what worked: as opposed to above, I left the .zip of this file on my computer. I then opened it with Winzip and unzipped it to my pc and selected the .kobo folder on my Kobo device. Before, it had been putting a folder by the same name as the zip file on there. Now, it put multiple files and folders on it. Upon ejecting and disconnecting it worked! 

    Now I'm in Android!

  • Mark Nolette
    Mark Nolette Member Posts: 508 ✭✭

    So get this, first I had to restart the writing the image to the SD Card as mentioned above. Then, I finally got the first patch to work. My Mac was automatically unzipping the downloaded file. I was able to download it into Windows without unzipping. Then I dragged the unzipped file into the .kobo folder on my Kobo Device. Then I unzipped it, in the .kobo folder with WinZip. Upon disconnecting it finally recognized it and restarted and updated.

    Secondly, it took another while to figure out the second patch. Here is what worked: as opposed to above, I left the .zip of this file on my computer. I then opened it with Winzip and unzipped it to my pc and selected the .kobo folder on my Kobo device. Before, it had been putting a folder by the same name as the zip file on there. Now, it put multiple files and folders on it. Upon ejecting and disconnecting it worked! 

    Now I'm in Android!

    Congratulations on your persistence! My, you had some unusual obstacle thrown at you at almost every step of the way! I hope that the Android setup process is kinder to you than that. You'll find that the settings are in Russian, but there is a post on Angor's blog that will help you pick the right options to change the language to English. When you shut down, you'll be presented with a German menu (this is a German port). The top option is shut down, the second is reboot. Not sure about the third. I had some problems with Play Store at first, in that it wouldn't download some apps due to some kind of error. But, after a couple of days, Play Store suddenly lost the errors. I have also found that wifi will disconnect on its own every now and then. No rhyme or reason to it. But Logos/Verbum works well, and you can read your resources on an E-Ink screen. The bar you'll see on the right controls the light intensity. The light won't work at all under 13%. You'll also find Button Savior, which allows you some navigation and to access app menus. Happy exploring!

  • Bentley Crawford
    Bentley Crawford Member Posts: 104

    Mark, thanks again! I've been downloading many of my titles the past day. When it comes to the Kindle app, you mentioned using the modified app. Is that the one at this address?

    Also, how does that work? How does one install the modified app? And further, will it log-in to my Amazon account and sync all my books and highlights, etc?

    Thanks!

  • Mark Nolette
    Mark Nolette Member Posts: 508 ✭✭

    Mark, thanks again! I've been downloading many of my titles the past day. When it comes to the Kindle app, you mentioned using the modified app. Is that the one at this address?

    Also, how does that work? How does one install the modified app? And further, will it log-in to my Amazon account and sync all my books and highlights, etc?

    Thanks!

    That link isn't where I got the modified Kindle app, but it looks like the same one. The modified app is supposed to have a color scheme that looks a little better on E-Ink screens. I tried it, and then tried the "regular" Kindle app. Frankly, i see very little difference between the two. The reading experience as such is the same - actually, better on the "regular" app, because it's more up-to-date. So, my advice? Just download the regular Kindle app from the Play Store. Whichever Kindle you choose, it should be able to log in to your Amazon account and sync all your stuff. Still, I'd go with the regular app. It's what I use now. 

    If you want to try the modified app, download it directly onto your Aura HD by using the internet browser it has, or after installing the browser of your choice (I have good luck with Opera Classic). Opera will give you the option of opening the file once it is downloaded. Touch Open and it asks you if you want to install. Touch install and it does. 

  • NYSERVANT
    NYSERVANT Member Posts: 191

    My kobo aura hd automatically updated to version 3.3 and now the android is no longer working. I have been searching around for this but haven't found a solution yet.  I think if I can figure out how to downgrade and reinstall the android setup it will work.  But just a warning to those who are considering this.

  • Mark Nolette
    Mark Nolette Member Posts: 508 ✭✭

    Strange. Mine upgraded to 3.3 a few weeks ago, and my Android setup wasn't affected. I wonder if reinstalling the two files that go in the .kobo folder would work for you. I don't have any other suggestions other than to try reinstalling.  

  • Ryan Lanning
    Ryan Lanning Member Posts: 19

    How are things going with logos on your kobo? I've been having trouble with mine. At times everything will work fine but now most of the time my apps won't connect to the internet. I think it is connected maybe to an issue with my google accounts but with the current system I can't figure out how to delete a google account and add a new one (if I click "add account" in gmail it crashes).

    Any thoughts? 

    Thanks

  • Mark Nolette
    Mark Nolette Member Posts: 508 ✭✭

    Wish I could help, but I no longer have my Kobo. I sold it when I found an E-Ink device that ran a newer version of Android natively and so had more flexibility. The Android setup on the Kobo was always rather touchy, and that version of Android on the Kobo hack (2.3.4) is getting long in the tooth! Maybe someone else who still uses the Kobo can help.