Original www.logos.com/catholic Site No Longer

It appears this morning that you can no longer get to the original www.logos.com/catholic website. That was the site in the native Logos formatting that had a number of useful options for navigating and displaying resources ... proper indicators of what you owned, preordered, etc.

That link is now redirected to the new verbum.com website. Don't get me wrong, I think the new website is pleasing to the eye and a definite plus from a product marketing standpoint. I have used that site also.

But when I need to review resources in the Catholic products inventory I prefer the old formatting/interface hands down. It has all the options ... for example -> "newest".

When you get the new Verbum website with all the flexibility of the old site then you can switch over permanently. Until then, please don't disable functionality for the sake of a very beautiful, product centered website.

In other words, get your ducks lined up and do the real work first - then change the link. (That was uncalled for. Sorry.)

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fgh

I. DO. NOT. WANT. A. SEPARATE. CATHOLIC. STORE! [:@]

(And I find it exceptionally inconsiderate, disrespectfull, and downright rude to launch websites that aren't even close to fully functional. And even worse to do it time after time after time. I bought Logos to use it, not to waste hundreds of hours on lousy websites, and thousands on bug reports.[8o|])

Sleiman

A work around is to search for 'catholic' on logos.com

Deacon Steve

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595686#Comment_595686

Yikes!

Paul C

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595686#Comment_595686

I. DO. NOT. WANT. A. SEPARATE. CATHOLIC. STORE!

(And I find it exceptionally inconsiderate, disrespectfull, and downright rude to launch websites that aren't even close to fully functional. And even worse to do it time after time after time. I bought Logos to use it, not to waste hundreds of hours on lousy websites, and thousands on bug reports.)

Why don't you tell us how you REALLY feel. [:P]

Deacon Steve

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595687#Comment_595687

A work around is to search for 'catholic' on logos.com

...sort of ... Not really the same when you look at it. Content is different, sorting doesn't have the same things in the proper order, etc.

It is an alternative, but not in the way I need it to be. If you can visualize the site yesterday and then sorting by "newest" you would have seen the broken-up Aramaic Bible books and the new additions from Paulist Press on top. That scenario is "no workie en toto" (how's that for mixed up vocabulary) on the new site and not close on the work around.

I'm relegated to hunt-and-peck to find new offerings in the Catholic product store. ... unless someone has an idea about how to locate the new resource adds. Maybe I'm being short sighted.

Blah.

Sleiman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595690#Comment_595690

A work around is to search for 'catholic' on logos.com

...sort of ... Not really the same when you look at it. Content is different, sorting doesn't have the same things in the proper order, etc.

It is an alternative, but not in the way I need it to be. If you can visualize the site yesterday and then sorting by "newest" you would have seen the broken-up Aramaic Bible books and the new additions from Paulist Press on top. That scenario is "no workie" on the new site and not close on the work around.

I'm relegated to hunt-and-peck to find new offerings in the Catholic product store. ... unless someone has an idea about how to locate the new resource adds. Maybe I'm being short sighted.

Blah.

Try this link: https://www.logos.com/products/search?Christian+Group=Catholic. When I sort by 'newest' I see a different result than the results page of the 'catholic' search. I honestly don't remember the difference between these and the original logos.com/catholic.

Deacon Steve

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595696#Comment_595696

That's it! You are one smart person.

See ... resources/bundles have changed since yesterday ... a new Ratzinger Bundle (from previous, smaller bundles) and Balthasar broken up. See how this is helpful? You can't get this sorting on the new site. And if you've pre-ordered resources, you don't know on the new site until you click into the resource ... then it tells you. Yuk!

Thanks a bunch.

[:)]

Ray from Faithlife

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595690#Comment_595690

I'm relegated to hunt-and-peck to find new offerings in the Catholic product store. ... unless someone has an idea about how to locate the new resource adds. Maybe I'm being short sighted.

Sorry you're having trouble.

https://verbum.com/search?sortBy=dateCreated&direction=asc&limit=60&page=1&view=list

As it has been stated here already, you can sort by date created, and you'll arrange the list by date. I was also able to reverse the order—puting the newest products first—by altering the "direction=" tag from "asc" to "desc" like so:

https://verbum.com/search?sortBy=dateCreated&direction=desc&limit=60&page=1&view=list

Does that accomplish what you were hoping for?

I wasn't able to toggle the sort with a button, which is less than ideal IMO. I'll mention that to the team working on Verbum.com and be sure it's on their list to add to the site.

Deacon Steve

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595704#Comment_595704

Thanks for Responding RayDeck3. ...getting there... This helps my understanding, but there are some differences that are confusing me still. For example:

Looking at the old site (now using the link Slieman provided, which is how it looked yesterday), I see a slight different set of resources.

Wipf & Stock Anglican Monastic Studies Collection (2 vols.) is not on the original Catholic site but displayed from the first link you provided.

Also, the individual volumes for the Works of Aristolte, or the set. Not on the original site.

The Manichaean Codices of Medinet Madi the same. And many others? What are all of those?

Etc

Why differences in product offerings/listing? Why would the individual volumes of the Aramaic Bible appear as a new offering (which they are) on the old site and not in the first few pages that I can see on the new site.

I'm not trying to be a smart-aleck - I doooo appreciate your work and help here, but will the real Catholic product list please stand up.

[:S]

Ray from Faithlife

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595710#Comment_595710

I've got a note to ask about the variations as well.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595710#Comment_595710

I don't know.

If Logos created a store for me .... ApprovedLogosBooksForDenise.com ... that'd be OK.

Of course, none of protestent-y stuff will be needed. Also none of the Verbum-y stuff either. Let's see. Keep the Church of Christ stuff (but not the 'restoration' stuff, which of course suggests the real NT church died, but it only got near-death sick).

More (or less) seriously, I'd not visit since they demand javascript. None of the links work on my approved Denise PC.

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595699#Comment_595699

a new Ratzinger Bundle

Ratzinger is Catholic? [;)]

Alex Renn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595740#Comment_595740

Thanks, everyone, for bringing this to our attention.

First of all, we are not trying to force anyone to use Verbum.com. We realize there are some sorting and searching bugs and are actively working to fix them.

For existing users who are comfortable with Logos.com, you can still navigate to logos.com/verbum to see everything you used to find at logos.com/catholic. (Searching "Catholic" and selecting the first featured result will also bring you to this tabbed set of pages.)

It seems the biggest problem was a broken "browse the catalog" link, which we have fixed, and a broken link in our featured search result for "Catholic" - this may take a few minutes to refresh, but has also been fixed. Again, this was not an attempt to force people to Verbum.com, just a mistake in our redirect path.)

Thanks for bringing it to our attention, and thanks for your patience as we try to make Verbum easier to find. Because that is the ultimate goal. Not to force you to change anything. I encourage you to use whatever is easiest for you.

Deacon Steve

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595762#Comment_595762

Thanks Alex.

Navigating there did the trick. And thanks for the context around the work still in-flight.

You may already be aware, but I'll say it here since the thread is active at the moment ... The new Verbum.com site does display pre-orders in the same fashion as with the older site. Meaning, when I am logged on to the old site and I have an item pre-ordered, the button is grayed out just as it is with items I already own.

On the new site, the button for the items I already own is grayed out, but not the button for items I have pre-ordered. On the new site I have to click on the resource and go to that page before it tells me that I already have pre-ordered.

Again, that may be one of the "work-in-progress" items you mentioned but I didn't want to miss the chance to say it again.

Alex Renn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/595767#Comment_595767

We are, indeed, aware of that issue. Thank you for ensuring it was on our radar.