Best layout for devotionals?

Pastor Jesse
Pastor Jesse Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

What would be the best layout for a devotional used each morning and evening. I've seen the one on the homepage but is not the one I use. Can the one on the homepage be replaced with the one I use most often. thanks

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,539

    Can the one on the homepage be replaced with the one I use most often

    I thought I could tell you to change the priorities of the calendar devotional books in your library would change the devotional that shows. However, I tested it and it doesn't change the home page - I tried closing and restarting Logos 4 with no effect. I'd classify this as a bug.

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  • Jon
    Jon Member Posts: 767 ✭✭

    This is right, if you prioritise them it will work; but it won't be updated until tomorrow [:)]

  • Ian McAsey
    Ian McAsey Member Posts: 173 ✭✭

    Wouldn't hitting F5 refresh the home page instead of waiting for the next day after changing priorities?

  • Jon
    Jon Member Posts: 767 ✭✭

    IanMcAsey said:

    Wouldn't hitting F5 refresh the home page instead of waiting for the next day after changing priorities?

    Right you are! So obvious but I didn't think of it [:D]

  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭

    I am not understanding this thread.  But I have questions about the devotionals.  I have about 20 devotionals and I have put them in a folder in my favorites.  But when I open a devotional, it does not come up on the current day, rather on the day that was current when I added it to favorites. 

    So how can I display devotionals so that when I click on one, it will automatically come up on the current day?

  • Esther Jones
    Esther Jones Member Posts: 134 ✭✭

    This works!  Thanks.  I do really like the homepage, but want to customize it a bit and this gives me a start!

     

    Esther

  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭

    This works! 

    Esther

    What works?  I tried the F5 thing and it did not refresh for me.  Can you explain what you did?

     

    Thanks


    mark

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MarkSwaim said:


    I am not understanding this thread.  But I have questions about the devotionals.  I have about 20 devotionals and I have put them in a folder in my favorites.  But when I open a devotional, it does not come up on the current day, rather on the day that was current when I added it to favorites. 

    So how can I display devotionals so that when I click on one, it will automatically come up on the current day?


    That would be really useful. I don't think there is a way to do it currently, but why not post it as a request in the Suggestions forum?

    I stand corrected. Mark Barnes has explained how to do this below.

  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭

    Thanks Rosie, I shall.  I am surprised however that this is not doable in L4.  It was doable in L3 and seems obvious that is should be in L4.

  • Esther Jones
    Esther Jones Member Posts: 134 ✭✭

    MarkSwaim said:

    This works! 

    Esther

    What works?  I tried the F5 thing and it did not refresh for me.  Can you explain what you did?

     

    Thanks


    mark

    I'm sorry it didn't work for you Mark.  Here are the steps I performed:

    1)  Opened the library

    2)  Prioritized the devotionals in my library

    3)  Closed the library

    4)  called up the homepage

    5) Pressed F5

     

    When the page refreshed, the devotionals at the top of my prioritized list were in the blue boxes of my homepage, in the order that I had prioritized them.

    I hope you find a solution soon.

     

    Esther

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MarkSwaim said:


    Thanks Rosie, I shall.  I am surprised however that this is not doable in L4.  It was doable in L3 and seems obvious that is should be in L4.


    As you may know, Logos 4 was a complete rewrite from the ground up on a new platform. Tthere are several features that have not yet been reimplemented in Logos 4. This is evidently one of the little ones which didn't make the formal list, but I'm sure they're keeping track of the little things internally too. It's good you brought it to their attention, though. I'm sure they won't intentionally leave it out for long.

  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭

    Thanks Esther

    I see what happens here...it does work for one or two devotionals.  But all the devotionals are not seen.  It is a neat trick however.  Still I wish to just be able to click from a list of devotionals and get the one I want to appear.

  • April  Pyle
    April Pyle Member Posts: 98 ✭✭

    It works.  I've been wondering the same thing.  I have two favorite devotionals and after prioritizing them, and closing the library F5 while on the home page and Presto!  Both my favorite devotionals were there.  Thanks for this. 

     

    While I have the floor,  I have the MP manuels and they show in the Passage Guide, Compare Versions.

    However, I can't find this option.  It doesn't show up on the ADD tab.  I tried creating a new Passage Guide and it wasn't available there there either.

    April

  • steve clark
    steve clark Member Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭

    I have the MP manuels and they show in the Passage Guide, Compare Versions.

    However, I can't find this option.  It doesn't show up on the ADD tab.  I tried creating a new Passage Guide and it wasn't available there there either.

    It is there in 4.0a RC1, so it should be available in the very near future (i have seen mentioned in this forum that 4.0a is expected to release in a week or two). I don't have SR7 installed any more, so i cannot verify in it.

     

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  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭


    While I have the floor,  I have the MP manuels and they show in the Passage Guide, Compare Versions.

    However, I can't find this option.  It doesn't show up on the ADD tab.  I tried creating a new Passage Guide and it wasn't available there there either.


    Hi April. You can "have the floor" any time you want by starting a new thread [:)] It's usually best to do that when you have a new unrelated question, as your question might be overlooked otherwise. People do eventually tire of going back to keep reading old posts if there's continuing banter on them. And your good question might have gotten lost in the banter. However, since you did get my attention...

    I've got SR7, and I can't reproduce what you're seeing. "Compare Versions" is already in the default Passage Guide (it comes under the "Interesting Words" section, and it appears (greyed out, because it's already in the guide) on my Add dropdown menu, along with all the other Passage Guide sections. When I go into any other guide I've created, as long as it's a Bible Reference guide and not a Bible Word guide, and start the search, the Add menu shows up and Compare Versions is on it.

    What happens when you go to Guides > Make a New Guide Template and make sure "Bible Reference" is selected in the upper right corner? Do you see "Compare Versions" in the list on the left? Then what happens if you click on it to add it to your custom guide template and save that template with a new name and then open that guide and run a search in it?

  • April  Pyle
    April Pyle Member Posts: 98 ✭✭

    I have ver SR7(4.0.3.3272)

    Under Interesting Words, I have SermonCentral.com.  No Compare Versions anywhere....default passage guide, not greyed out or anything.  It's just not there.  I'm connected to the internet so should have the latest version available, I'd think...

    Sorry about not starting a new thread.  I see Previous topic and next topic but not new thread.

     

     

    April

  • Damian McGrath
    Damian McGrath Member Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭

    April,

    What Base Package do you have? - this may be one of those tools which is not available in every package: see the bottom of: http://www.logos.com/comparison

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Sorry about not starting a new thread.  I see Previous topic and next topic but not new thread.

    Ah, I see. You're a newbie to forums in general.  Sorry for not realizing that. In order to post a new thread in a forum you need to go back to the forum level, not from within an individual thread. To get back there from here, click on one of the links up near the top of the page:

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    Click on "Logos 4" if this is the forum in which you want to post it, or "Home" if you want to go back to the Home page and pick a different forum to post in (e.g., Suggestions, or General)

    Once you are inside a Forum looking at the listing of threads in it, you will find a link at the upper right saying "Write a New Post" - click that and you're off and running!

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  • Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes Member Posts: 15,432 ✭✭✭

    MarkSwaim said:

    I am not understanding this thread.  But I have questions about the devotionals.  I have about 20 devotionals and I have put them in a folder in my favorites.  But when I open a devotional, it does not come up on the current day, rather on the day that was current when I added it to favorites. 

    So how can I display devotionals so that when I click on one, it will automatically come up on the current day?

    If you create the favourite with the resource open (by dragging the tab to the favourites panel, or by clicking Add in favourites), it will create a link to the place where the resource is currently opened.

    However, if you create the favourite by dragging the unopened resource from the library to the favourites panel, it will subsequently open at the current day.

     

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  • Mark
    Mark Member Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭

    However, if you create the favourite by dragging the unopened resource from the library to the favourites panel, it will subsequently open at the current day.

    Thanks Mark.  That works perfectly!

  • Steve Warner
    Steve Warner Member Posts: 7 ✭✭

    I have a layout for devotional reading which included a devotion, my favorite bible, and a commentary pane.

    I want the devo to open to "today" when I open that layout, but it is already open to a specific day when I create or save the layout.  Any way to work around that?  Thanks!

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    I don't know about a workaround per se Steve, but if you click into your devotional and then hit the home button  on your keyboard once, it will jump to today's date.  A second click of home will take you to the cover page.

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  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭


    I don't know about a workaround per se Steve, but if you click into your devotional and then hit the home button  on your keyboard once, it will jump to today's date.  A second click of home will take you to the cover page.


    Neat! I didn't know about that [Home] trick for devotionals. But hitting Home a second time doesn't seem to go to the cover page for me. Even Ctrl+Home doesn't work. Is something broken (I'm using 4.0d Beta 4)? What version are you using?

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    Neat! I didn't know about that [Home] trick for devotionals. But hitting Home a second time doesn't seem to go to the cover page for me. Even Ctrl+Home doesn't work. Is something broken (I'm using 4.0d Beta 4)? What version are you using?

    Hmm, strangely enough using the same beta 4.0db4 - I see that it works differently in differing devotionals.

    In My utmost for his highest it jumps to the days date, a second press jumps to the beginning and then right back to today's date.

    In On This Day it only jumps to the beginning.  But a single PG-DOWN appears to jump to today's date. 

     

    I'll have to work this out later.

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Ronald Quick
    Ronald Quick Member Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭

    Daily Help just goes to the cover page when you click the home button on the keyboard.  Page Down does nothing.

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭


    In My utmost for his highest it jumps to the days date, a second press jumps to the beginning and then right back to today's date.

    I had tried both Morning and Evening and Amazing Grace - 360 Inspiring Hymn Stories for Daily Devotions, and both had this behavior you describe, so I figured it was a universal problem. But indeed, On This Day goes to the beginning on pressing Home once. I have yet to find one that goes to today's date on pressing Home a first time and then to the top after pressing it a second time. It's weird that PgDown goes to today's date if you're at the top of the file.

    This random inconsistency needs to be addressed.

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    Ok, these are all of the type:calendar devotional's that I have in my system and their behavior broken down.

    Scroll to any place, strike HOME once and wait a moment till todays' date appears:

    • Thoughts for the quiet hour
    • 365 day devotional commentary
    • My Utmost for His Highest
    • Morning and Evening
    • Ears from harvested Sheaves on daily portions
    • Christian's Secret of a Holy Life
    • Amazing Grace 366 inspiring hymn stories for daily devotions
    • One-Year Bible Reading Calendar

    Scroll to any place, strike HOME and go to the title/first page.  A single strike of PAGE DOWN takes you to todays' date.

    • On This Day
    • Truth For Today
    • God Is Enough- Inspiring Words of Christian Affirmation...
    • Drawing Near - Daily Readings for  a Deeper Faith

    Scroll to any place, Strike HOME to go to the first/title page. PAGE DOWN acts just like any book, one page at a time.

    • American Minute
    • NRSV Apocrypha Reading Plan
    • Take Heart - Daily Devotions with the Church's Great Preachers

    It is terribly inconsistent.  I prefer the behavior of the first group in which a single strike of the HOME key takes you to today's reading.

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Ok, these are all of the type:calendar devotional's that I have in my system and their behavior broken down.

    Scroll to any place, strike HOME once and wait a moment till todays' date appears:

    • Thoughts for the quiet hour
    • 365 day devotional commentary
    • My Utmost for His Highest
    • Morning and Evening
    • Ears from harvested Sheaves on daily portions
    • Christian's Secret of a Holy Life
    • Amazing Grace 366 inspiring hymn stories for daily devotions
    • One-Year Bible Reading Calendar

    Scroll to any place, strike HOME and go to the title/first page.  A single strike of PAGE DOWN takes you to todays' date.

    • On This Day
    • Truth For Today
    • God Is Enough- Inspiring Words of Christian Affirmation...
    • Drawing Near - Daily Readings for  a Deeper Faith

    Scroll to any place, Strike HOME to go to the first/title page. PAGE DOWN acts just like any book, one page at a time.

    • American Minute
    • NRSV Apocrypha Reading Plan
    • Take Heart - Daily Devotions with the Church's Great Preachers

    It is terribly inconsistent.  I prefer the behavior of the first group in which a single strike of the HOME key takes you to today's reading.


    What was that you said further up in the thread about how pressing Home a second time would take you to the title page? Does that work for some of the titles in the first group but not all of them? (If so, it's yet another breakdown.) I think thought ought to be some keyboard way of getting to the title page. If not Home a second time, then Ctrl+Home.

    This should probably be reported as a "BUG: ... " so that Melissa will notice it.

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    What was that you said further up in the thread about how pressing Home a second time would take you to the title page? Does that work for some of the titles in the first group but not all of them?

    No, it was a faulty memory of how it should work.  I was certain though at one point that it did work that way, but then again faulty memory syndrome happens to me too often.

     

    Yeah, it's probably a bug.

    EDIT:

    posted here: http://wiki.logos.com/Bug$3a_Inconsistent_behavior_jumping_to_today%27s_reading_in_type$3aCalendar_Devotional

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Melissa Snyder
    Melissa Snyder Member Posts: 4,702 ✭✭✭

    Yeah, it's probably a bug.

    I've reported this, adding all the Calendar Devotionals to your list under their appropriate navigational behavior. Thanks.