Tell Us How You Use Logos!

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  • Veli Voipio
    Veli Voipio MVP Posts: 2,026

    If you will go to Blue Letter Bible, they do have a pronunciation guide for both the Hebrew and Greek.

    Thanks Justin, that is a good advice.

    I can use the link http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H5003&t=KJV

    But the use is a bit complicated: I have to copy the lemma to the New American Standard Hebrew-Aramaic and Greek dictionaries within Logos, then pick up the Strong's number and place it to that BLB web page.

    This is a good thing for now, but in long run I look forward to the Logos internal application

    In Christ, Veli

    Gold package, and original language material and ancient text material, SIL and UBS books, discourse Hebrew OT and Greek NT. PC with Windows 11

  • Jacques Gauvin
    Jacques Gauvin Member Posts: 9

    Logos often helps me find a passage that I forget the exact words of. I also use it to do topic studies using scripture only. I host a Bible based website, www.jacquesgauvin.com, and am an active participant on Facebook where I try to add meaningful comments. I also use Logos to assist in this task.

  • Greg Corbin
    Greg Corbin Member Posts: 301 ✭✭

    Jayson, I am happy to give my feedback.  FYI, I am a Logos user since 2008 - bought Logos 3 back then and eagerly moved to the newer version each time. Here are my answers to the numbered questions...

    1.   I am a Senior Pastor of a Southern Baptist Church in the metro Birmingham, Alabama area.

    2.   I use Logos daily on my MacBook Pro and ipad. I use it first thing in the morning for my personal devotional / study time and then I move into preparation for two distinct sermons each week - Sunday morning and evening. In addition, I find myself using Logos to look up answers to questions that come up about the Bible or church history or theology.  I also use Logos sometimes to prepare of pastoral counseling sessions, as I have a "counseling" collection that enables me to find resources for particular issues.

    3.  The collection and search features are my two favorites.  My favorite resources are the reverse interlinears and my beloved commentaries.

    4.  As a user who started on PC and migrated to Mac, I have to say that Logos 5 really finally brought near equality between the two platforms. Thank you for making Mac users a priority!  Nevertheless, I still find the program more "buggy" and less stable on my Mac.  At times the almost daily updates are a nuisance. Personally, I wonder if it would be possible to send out one large update per week rather than clogging things up daily. Anecdotally, everyone I personally know who uses Logos is a daily user like myself.  Still, in the grand scheme of things, these issues are very minor. Thank you for a marvelous, revolutionary product that has made me a better man and a better pastor. Logos 5 was truly a quantum leap. Don't rush out the next version until it is ready. Blessings to you all!

  • Houseplant
    Houseplant Member Posts: 1

    The way I use Logos the most is the daily reading through the Bible. I get so much out of being able to put the the study Bible right next to it and learn from both of them.  I like being able to instantly access related verses with a touch of the finger. I'm not a pastor or anything---just a person who is constantly amazed at God's willingness to communicate and bless and guide.

    I'm just starting out with the software and haven't figured out how to copy and paste from the study Bible and my other books. Copying a Bible vs is easy enough, but I started a word pad document with a theme and wanted to include other comments too. I have a touch pad screen laptop with Win 8 and it is not like my old Win XP !

    And a big thank you for the free books and affordable other ones. I always wanted a Kindle or Nook, but didn't get one, cause I didn't think I could find the kind of reading material I like.  Then by the grace and providence of God I was given several Bibles on a CD which included Logos software to access it. I just love being able to have all these books to read.  Thanks again.

  • Rickey Lamphere
    Rickey Lamphere Member Posts: 20

    Jayson, is there a book I can purchase to help me use Logos 5? I have a Logos 4 library but am looking to start a  Bible Study in my home and need help. As I did not use the Logos 4 very much. Any help will be grateful. Thanks Rickey

  • Kevin Moore
    Kevin Moore Member Posts: 2

    I facilitate a class at church called Bible Basics.  It is a survey of the entire Bible.  I use Logos as a premier resource in researching the deeper meanings and nuances of scriptures.  Since I write my own curriculum, I make heavy use of different versions of the Bible, Commentaries, Biblical and Archaeological History to prepare the handouts.  Having all those resources at hand make the job so much easier.

    There are two things that I find distracting.  The first is I keep getting repetitive and annoying popups asking if I like Logos.  I've begun answering "NO" in hopes they will cease.  The Perseus collection is great, but since I do not have the luxury of time in which to learn to read Greek or Latin, a less convoluted method of selecting the non-English versions to hide them would be greatly appreciate.

    I would love to have the Portfolio package or the Diamond Package, but I simply cannot afford them.  I've no idea how many man hours go into coding the resources and preparing them for download are.  I suspect quite a bit and that is expensive.  I know Logos and its associated sites are designed to make the owners money.  I have no trouble with that, I just wish some of the stuff was less expensive.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,624

    Hi Rickey

    is there a book I can purchase to help me use Logos 5?

    Does the material at https://www.logos.com/training/desktop and http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_5_Video_Tutorials help at all?

    Also https://www.logos.com/product/36348/logos-5-training-manual-set 

    There have been some updates to Logos 5 since these were produced but the principles are the same.

    Graham 

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,624

    Hi Kevin - and welcome to the forums

    The first is I keep getting repetitive and annoying popups asking if I like Logos

    I see this on the mobile apps but not Logos 5 (desktop). Is that consistent with what you are seeing?

    a less convoluted method of selecting the non-English versions to hide them would be greatly appreciate.

    In the Logos 5 library filter box type "publisher:perseus ANDNOT lang:english" and that should give you what you are looking for. Select them all (click on one and then Ctrl-A) and then Ctrl-rightclick and you will get the option to hide them all

    If this doesn't help then please create a new thread and explain the issues you are having in more detail.

    Graham

  • Robert L McClain
    Robert L McClain Member Posts: 6

    I am a Moody Bible Seminary student. I plan to complete my all-online MA in Applied Biblical Studies this Fall. I have been using Logos Silver since the program began, and I don't know how I would have made it this far without Logos. As my classes have progressed, I have been able to add Moody's required textbooks to my Logos library, and the links the digital books provide to the entire library are phenomenal. The only problem is that sometimes they lead me down an interesting but irrelevant rabbit trail and I have to back up and stick to the subject.

    My favorite features are Layouts and Copy. When a course begins I start building a mini-library of study materials and save them as a Layout. This way I don't have to remember which of the references I am using when I open Logos. I use Copy in conjunction with Microsoft One Note to collect the results of my research. The citations I need come right with the text I've copied. (I wish Logos had a more user friendly notes feature like One Note.)

  • Kent
    Kent Member Posts: 529

    I am a Moody Bible Seminary student. I plan to complete my all-online MA in Applied Biblical Studies this Fall.

    I did not know Moody had an online program. I guess most are going to them and Logos will benefit as well as the students.

  • Dusty Miller
    Dusty Miller Member Posts: 2

    I'd love to tell you but I can not use it on my surface tablet so when I am traveling 6 days a week it is useless. Big bummer for me.....😠

  • Nathan Parker
    Nathan Parker Member Posts: 1,755

    I'm a seminary student. Logos helps me with research for papers, plus I'll be digging more into the Biblical languages coming up. Plus it's great for personal study as well!

    I love the datasets in L5. They've been lifesavers for my papers. Love the Bibliography tools as well. Can't wait to dig more into the Biblical languages stuff coming up.

    As for particular feedback, I think I've already shared all I can think of for now. If I get more, you'll sure hear it. :-)

    Nathan Parker

    Visit my blog at http://focusingonthemarkministries.com

  • Are there particular questions you use Logos to answer? Are there features you return to over and over again?

    Many forum questions about using Logos: e.g. recent thread => Newbie Needs Help with Copying Verses in a Particular Format that includes a screen shot of my favorite Logos feature of visual filter highlighting showing range of Greek verbal expression in Greek, English, and Spanish.  Dreaming of more Bibles with interlinear tagging, especially Complete Jewish Bible and New American Standard 1977.   Also dreaming of => Suggestion: Parallel Bible Print-on-Demand for use in prison bible studies.

    Thankful for personal books tool.  Preparing one personal book bible => American Standard Version 1901 - Personal Bible without Chapter and Verse #'s increased appreciation for Logos resource tagging and accuracy.  If personal book syntax for interlinear tagging was released along with ability to copy tagging from existing resource(s), anticipate more resource(s) being tagged by various Logos users.  Suspect tagging for Complete Jewish Bible would be similar to NIV (so initially could replace NIV surface text with CJB).  Likewise anticipate NASB 1995 Update tagging being useful for NASB 1977.

    Thankful can share many Logos items (e.g. highlighting palettes, visual filters, collections, notes, ...) via Faithlife.

    Looking forward to Hebrew Audio Pronunciations (longest pre-pub under development ?) and update for Learn to Use Biblical Greek and Hebrew with Logos Bible Software using Logos Hebrew Morphology.

    Thankful for 750 free Vyrso eBooks since Thanksgiving 2011, especially real and true stories.

    Thankful for dynamic upgrade pricing so only pay for new resources.

    Concur with Blog => http://blog.logos.com/2014/05/why-do-i-need-so-many-books/ along with Logos search capabilities.

    Thankful for substantial Logos 5 feature parity on OS X and Windows.  Thankful for many improvements since Logos 4 Mac alpha pre-releases.

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • Brent Hoefling
    Brent Hoefling Member Posts: 595 ✭✭

    I use logos whenever I come up with a good, new, and secret Idea for a doctrine that is counter-culture and goes against the grain of the old-school-church.  it is easy to pick and choose quotes and out of context scriptures to eisegate what I want the Bible to say. :) (text-bite provided for someone to mis-quote me, of course and sarcastic humor intended)

    Seriously, though - nearly the opposite.  I use L5 in many ways, I'll try to list them:

    • Mobile Ed:  I have or pre-purchased nearly all courses (at least thusfar), for continuing my education in the Lord.  not seeking any further degrees at this time and having this available is an awesome opportunity for me as pastor to make myself get back into the habit of organized training/school.  Having a greater-than-portfolio library enables me to also do nearly all the extra reading.  In fact, L5's read to me feature is used a lot when I am going through that material.
    • research for writing:
      • articles for our church publication
      • sermons for my local church and other preaching opportunities
      • papers for other release, including "notes" that I will from time to time put on FB, as I don't really "Blog" anymore.
      • research and assistance in creating teaching materials for church and other teaching opportunities.
    • devotional reading and prayer-directions with prayer lists.
    • quote and share devotionals and other readings to social media's for sharing and expounding as requested
    • Bible Study for personal pleasure and challenge
    • Bible study for familial sharing
    • Teaching Bible Study using Logos
    • teaching and presenting Logos software informally

    There are probably other things I use, but this is just off the top of my head.

  • John Goodman
    John Goodman Member Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭

    Jayson,

    I've been a student for the past 3 years and I've found Logos very helpful. I expect to go on using it as a minister for sermon prep and further research and/or study.

    I tend to use Logos for translation and exegetical assignments. I've used the language training videos and found it very helpful to have electronic editions of all my key language resources such as grammars, lexicons and original language texts. The linking between these makes research very snappy.

    I use a lot of bible commentaries in Logos too.

    I have found it very helpful to have stuff read out to me by the voiceover function.

    For me the greatest weakness at the moment is note taking. I would like to be able to tag my notes and filter them. I'd like to be able to have notes files for each resource but also to search notes across multiple resources for a tag etc. I'd like highlighted text to be automatically added to the note.

    I'd like to see books added without restarting logos.

    The feature I'm most grateful for recently is stability. For the first two years of using logos I got pretty upset with how often it crashed but I can say that it has not crashed for me in the last 6 months!

    Hope that helps,

    John

    גַּם־חֹשֶׁךְ֮ לֹֽא־יַחְשִׁ֪יךְ מִ֫מֶּ֥ךָ וְ֭לַיְלָה כַּיּ֣וֹם יָאִ֑יר כַּ֝חֲשֵׁיכָ֗ה כָּאוֹרָֽה

  • Sacrifice
    Sacrifice Member Posts: 391

    Let us count some ways:

    1. At home in family/personal study
    2. For prayer list
    3. In church, sermons, lessons, etc.
    4. In teaching at seminary
    5. In writing commentaries
    6. In ministering to the homeless
    7. In ministering at a prestigious golf club

    Yours In Christ

  • Cheryl Dumais
    Cheryl Dumais Member Posts: 6

    Hmmm, how to answer such a broad question.  First of all I appreciate the opportunity to do this.  I am neither a pastor nor a formal student.  I am a believer with a thirst to learn more about God.  I use my Logos for Bible study on both particular passages and topics.  My budget is somewhat limited since this is something I do for personal interest so I really appreciate the community pricing opportunities.  I would love to see easier use on the lexicons as I am still somewhat stumped to find what I want.  I currently have the Platinum edition and have added a multitude of other resources over time.  Commentaries and maps are probably my most used part of the package.  I build bible studies which are shared with a small group I am a part of.  I also have recently been allowed to do some biblical research for one of the pastors at my church.  Now as to comments, this is hands down the best resource I have ever used!  I love the way everything is integrated.  I love that I can copy and paste portions into my document that I'm building and I love that I can add my own material.  I have to say a huge thank you also for bringing back the NICOT and NICNT commentaries by book for those of us with limited budgets.  You really listen!  I was blown away.  One last thing on my current wish list, I would love to come to the training you hold in Bellingham but it is always held the last week of the month.  This is an impossible time for me personally as I am an accountant and it is month end.  It would be lovely if you could rotate those dates a bit.  Thank you everyone at Logos you are making a difference. 

  • Charles S. Pugh
    Charles S. Pugh Member Posts: 1

    I use Logos for small study groups, sermons, and personal growth. My favorite feature is the sermon starter which does hours of research in seconds.

  • Bill Shewmaker
    Bill Shewmaker Member Posts: 746 ✭✭✭

    I use Logos for personal study, sermon prep, Doctoral studies, teaching others how to use Logos (and encouraging them to buy and build). It is a truly great resource that I use daily to maintain my prayer list(s), personal study notes, etc. I have the Platinum package with "several" (tongue in cheek) other resources. My favorite app within Logos is the ability to run Word Studies.

  • Peter Plowright
    Peter Plowright Member Posts: 1

    I am making a Devotional Help tool by inserting Bible verses and other Christian writings into the pages of a standard photo album.  I also print, slice to size and insert Logos Bible Art every third or fourth page.  Unfortunately I only print in black and white, so I wish I could order printed samples in colour.  Even the fridge magnets might work if they shipped to Canada.  I must add though that I enjoy the Bible Art very much, in colour or not.

    Logos is an almost overpowering tool.  Too be honest I have not had time to learn my way into much of the maze.  There are other online Bible programs that are very helpful without the complexity of Logos.  Perhaps some future need will cause me to delve into the "breadth and length, and depth and height" of Logos, a true exposition of the Word of God.

    Peter Plowright

  • Ken Johnston
    Ken Johnston Member Posts: 1

    I used Logos 2 for years. The one feature that was very useful was being able to have 3 different passages up simultaneously and being able to change verses in each section independently for comparison. Is it possible to have that happen in Logos 5? 

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,624

    Hi Ken - and welcome to the forums

    Yes, you can do what you are asking in Logos 5 - open multiple copies of a translation and scroll independently.

    If you can't work out how to do it please start a separate thread and we will be able to help.

    Graham

  • John Parker
    John Parker Member Posts: 12

    Hi Jayson,

    I am a house/simple/organic church planter in Central California with simplechurchsuccess.com and LK10.com.

    I use English versions, the interlinear at the bottom of the screen (great) along with original language texts (mostly Greek). I like toggling through the language lexicons.  I use Notes a lot usually by creating a Note for a specific book (e.g., NT-Mark).

    I switched to Logos over ten years ago because it offered Hebrew language access as well as Greek.

    Thanks for asking.

    John

  • Robert Geiss
    Robert Geiss Member Posts: 6

    How do I use Logos? To begin with, I am a layman. I grew up in Sunday school and church, but never really heard the gospel until my teen years. Now I may have heard it before then, but it never really penetrated until my junior year in high school, at which time I received Christ as my Savior. Since then God’s leading has been very real in my life, and He has allowed me to serve Him largely in teaching (Sunday school, Bible study groups and an occasional pulpit fill) and in administration (in church and the regional boards of a couple of Christian organizations).

     

    A number of years ago I sold my insurance agency and took an early retirement to care for my wife who had been diagnosed with a terminal illness. But what to do in retirement? I bought an aluminum fishing boat and motor along with equipment for a wood shop. And, at that time there was a new computer operating system called “Windows.” So I retired my old IBM DOS based computer and bought a new one.

     

    Shortly after that, I think it was around 1992, I discovered and purchased a new Windows based Bible study program to replace the primitive DOS based one I had been using. That began a love affair with Logos, and we have grown together from that original version all the way through Logos 2, 3, 4 and now 5. The boat, used only a few times, is long gone, and the wood shop equipment has long been used only for maintenance around the house. But Logos remains a vital part of my life.

     

    Every morning, after shaving-showering-dressing, etc., I put on the coffee, feed two dogs and a cat, and then sit down for my daily Bible reading (I follow the Gideon through the year plan) and a time of devotions. Then I turn on my computer and first check world news on The Times of Israel and then my E-Mail. Then I open Logos on one side of my screen and Word on the other. But what do I do with it?

     

    Over the years my life has increasingly been one of study and writing; Bible study lessons and papers on various subjects, etc. Three years ago, though, my first book was published, an eschatological study entitled Nearing Midnight. I have now completed a doctrinal study (yet to be published) with the title of Pelagius, That Saintly Heretic in an Appellate Court, and I am currently working on another one, a collection of (opinionated) papers on a number of subjects called What Have You Heard? And Logos has not only enabled me to do all this, but enriched my life in the doing of it.

     

    So, what do I like most about Logos? That’s hard to say, but perhaps the best thing is that it is such a well-rounded program, and that increasingly so through continuing development. And I can customize it (and have) to my own personal tastes. With the click of an icon I open my basic study set up; my preferred Bible, one commentary, and the list of all my other commentaries, all linked together. And with a click on a few other icons additional resources can be opened without having to look for them. In addition, I like the vast resources I have in Logos, from which I can draw and cite from the minds of many reputable and godly people. I like being able to so easily compare verses in all my preferred Bibles. And the access through the interlinears to the original languages is invaluable. Also, the ability to so easily copy and paste into Word is something I use every day, as well as being able to click on a reference I have cited in Word and having it open in Logos.

     

    Well, I could go on, but let me simply say that for me Logos is a wonderful, God-given tool, and a very important part of my life. And, from the length of this you can tell that I like to write.

     

    http://robertgeiss.tateauthor.com

  • Martijn Zeldenrust
    Martijn Zeldenrust Member Posts: 2
    Iam a teacher and preacher Iam using a lot of these great resources for teaching catechism to my fellow students eexcellent resource
  • Bruce W. Logue
    Bruce W. Logue Member Posts: 6

    One of my favorite uses of Logos is the notes feature.  I use resources such as Textweek.com to find out what other preachers and others  are saying about a text.  When I find something that is particularly rich, I clip it and drop it in Notes arranged by Biblical text.  When I get done with this "research" I have a note full of great material under a particular text that I can come back to later.

    One of my frustrations is that I have on many occasion typed a term or a place in the search box and came up with nothing.  At those times I resort to Google and get real information about my question.

    Bruce Logue

  • I am a Pastor and I have used Logos for Bible studies and academic research for about five years now. I love devotional features in the software. I wish Logos price would be moderate for me to purchase the Portfolio version. 

    Thanks to Logos

    Rev. Fred Mordecai Wireko

  • Brent Hoefling
    Brent Hoefling Member Posts: 595 ✭✭

    I am a Pastor and I have used Logos for Bible studies and academic research for about five years now. I love devotional features in the software. I wish Logos price would be moderate for me to purchase the Portfolio version. 

    I too am a Logos and L5 user, and a Pastor.  The costs of such a huge collection, can be overwhelming as you mention.  I had started with Logos many years ago, and slowly collected resources for my library.  when L5 came out and offered portfolio, I too thought that it was something I could only wish for.

    I knew it would help me in the various areas of my teaching, preaching and writing.  when I found out about their payment plans, this helped me move toward that decision as well.  I had to decide that it was important enough, and then researched the licensing policies of Logos and discovered that for a small fee (I think $20), I could transfer my library to another person, as part of my last will and testament.  in other words, I could now view this as a rather long-term, investment.

    Perhaps this isn't appropriate for this thread, but I wanted to drop my support for you and my opinion about your question.  the admins can feel free to move this as necessary.

  • Hello Jayson,

    I serve as a  Sunday School teacher (for Spanish Ministry) and a prison volunteer Bible Professor (in English).  Therefore, I use Logos for both.  However, I have problems mostly with the Spanish side as the library does not work correctly.  For example, when using the Reina Valera 1960, and touch a "letter link" to view its reference, it shows the same from an English Bible.  Also, when searching for any book of the Bible, I must remember to enter it English. In my case, I am fluent in both languages, but when I am concentrated and studying in one language, it gets frustrating.  Also, do you have a training session for Spanish speaking only?  Please, let me know.  Thank you, Dr. Ed 

  • Martijn Zeldenrust
    Martijn Zeldenrust Member Posts: 2
    No I don't speak Spanish but speak Dutch and the Dutch bibles are the same way