Nexus 10 or iPad? Perennial tablet support question
Which is better for Logos use? I'm in the market to buy a tablet computer. I'm looking specifically between the Nexus 10 and the iPad, and specifically only on the level of Logos support and performance.
I have a lot of stuff through Logos, and I want to make sure it works as quickly as possible, and if possible without an active wi-fi connection after an initial installation.
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I am an iOS only user, but I have heard the Android app is nearing par with the iOS one.
You should be aware: Apple is hosting their WWDC next week and new device announcements are imminent. Even if you decide to get an "old" (meaning current as of today) device, it is in your best interest to wait until after the announcement when retailers will begin lowering the price. If you need help with knowing when to buy, feel free to ask.
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Benjamin Baxter said:
... and if possible without an active wi-fi connection after an initial installation.
There are some cross-referencing and lookup capabilities in an "unconnected" mode, but you should be aware that if you want full connectivity between resources in your library you will need an internet connection. Either Wi-Fi or some sort of cellular/hotspot.
I second Alabama24's recommendation to wait at least until Apple's WWDC to see if there are price breaks for current models, new models that may interest you, etc. Also, don't overlook Apple's refurbished products. I have purchased several over the years and they are the same as brand new without the fancy retail packaging to include warranty. I've never been disappointed in them.
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Hi Benjamin,
I have recently got rid of an IPad as it really didn't cut it for me as far as Logos was concerned. I have replaced it with a Surface Pro 2 and it really is good. It runs the "full fat" version of Logos and works equally as well as a laptop or tablet. Yes expensive, but worth every penny.
Tony
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Thanks for the helpful replies.
At the moment, I'm looking forward to the Google Nexus announcements. That the iPads so far still only allow one app at a time is for now a gamebreaker. Recording lectures while browsing the library would be an invaluable feature, I've since realized.
Of course, with the announcements between Apple and Google, I might just wait it out a few months longer and see what shakes down.
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Hi Benjamin:
It's been many years since seminary, but if I were to go back there is no way I would use an iPad in place of a computer. I currently own an iPad version 3 running iOS 7.1.1 and maybe it's my old eyes and fingers, but I find it difficult to do many of the things that I can on my iMac. I whole heartedly recommend taking a look at the 11" MacBook Air instead. It's a real computer which will enable you to do the multi-tasking you desire. I have no experience with the Nexus but it's my contention that a tablet is not a computer. But it's your choice of course. Choose wisely. [;)]
In Christ,
Charles
2017 27" iMac 5K, Mojave, 10.5" iPad Pro, iPhone 7+, iPhone 8, iOS 12.0, Catalina beta, iPadOS Beta
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I have an iPad(most frequently on loan to my bride lately), a Nexus 7(1st Gen) an iPod touch, and a new HP 7 Plus. All have the Logos app.
There's no real substitute for Logos 5. However, a tablet is really handy to look up things on the go. If you think of sermon preparation or plain Bible study as a process, many of the preliminaries can be done via the mobile app.
FWIW, I think a laptop, like the Macbook Air or an Ultrabook is much better suited since it has all the essentials. The tablet means I don't need to have one of those heavy study Bibles along with me. That's a blessing.
The mind of man is the mill of God, not to grind chaff, but wheat. Thomas Manton | Study hard, for the well is deep, and our brains are shallow. Richard Baxter
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Benjamin Baxter said:
That the iPads so far still only allow one app at a time is for now a gamebreaker.
This might be changing in the Fall ... it is a rumoured feature that has some evidence of being implemented, at least according to some of those folks delving into the new bet that was released at the WWDC. The thing with Apple is that they might not always be first to market with a feature, but when they get there it will be well implemented and pretty much all devices all be able to us it immediately and for free.
I use the iPad. I have tried a surface and found that there was not enough power to do what I wanted. I found that it sounds nice to have 'full fat' L5 in a mobile device, but that I actually found it to be a reader/highlighter/note taker ... I did not use the other features whilst out and about. I find I never have to move to another app.
I actually have the iPad 4, with retina screen ... I find that I have that open next to my computer when studying ... and use it for my main reading whilst researching on my MBP ... the screen is easy on the eyes, and the scrolling far superior to the panel scrolling on the desktop. I am not familiar with the Nexus screen details, but it should also be a consideration, in addition to raw power and work flow.
2017 15" MBP, iPad Pro
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Charles Scaglione said:
I currently own an iPad version 3 running iOS 7.1.1 and maybe it's my old eyes and fingers, but I find it difficult to do many of the things that I can on my iMac. I whole heartedly recommend taking a look at the 11" MacBook Air instead.
I am unsure about your specific issue, but the 11 inch MBA drives me crazy because it is TOO SMALL to my eyes! A 13 inch MBA would be fine. Personally, I have a 13 inch MBP and an iPad. I love them both and use them everyday... for different things. When I want to read long passages, I do so on the iPad and highlight like crazy. When I want to do searches and move between resources quickly, I do so on my MacBook.
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Benjamin Baxter said:
That the iPads so far still only allow one app at a time is for now a gamebreaker. Recording lectures while browsing the library would be an invaluable feature, I've since realized.
Apple is expanding multitasking capabilities in iOS 8... however, can you explain what you mean by the latter? Are you wanting to make movies, or just record audio? What does "browse the library mean"? Do you mean resources (library figuratively) within the Logos app? The library (list of books) within the logos app? Something else?
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Anthony Keating said:
Hi Benjamin,
I have recently got rid of an IPad as it really didn't cut it for me as far as Logos was concerned. I have replaced it with a Surface Pro 2 and it really is good. It runs the "full fat" version of Logos and works equally as well as a laptop or tablet. Yes expensive, but worth every penny.
Tony
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I am using a Surface Pro I and agree that the full version of L5 is great. For Seminary lectures OneNote allows recording and typing/writing at the same time. Many people bash the fact that a keyboard is extra expense on the Surface, but if you are going to take lecture notes on an iPad or Android tablet I HIGHLY recommend a Bluetooth keyboard so you've got that expense anyway.
If you do end up with the iPad - I strongly recommend the Audio Note app for recording and typing/writing lecture notes.
Making Disciples! Logos Ecosystem = LogosMax on Microsoft Surface Pro 7 (Win11), Android app on tablet, FSB on iPhone & iPad mini, Proclaim (Proclaim Remote on Fire Tablet).
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I've owned both an iPad (every version) and a Nexus 10. I kept the Nexus 10 for a few months and then sold it on eBay. It's a fine device, but it's not an iPad. I'm not an iOS biggot. I own an iPhone but use a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 as my daily driver. I also own a Samsung Galaxy Note 8 and 10 (I review gadgets and hardware as my side job) and the iPad is great, but I prefer Android.
I say all of that to say, that if you want one great device for Bible study, get the iPad. It's not a world ahead anymore as it used to be. Android tablets are catching up.
If you are predisposed to Android like I am, the Android Logos app is good enough now that you won't sacrifice too much compared to the iOS version. When they update one, soon the other gets an update often with the same features added.
BTW the Nexus 10 doesn't do multitasking any better than the iPad right now. You still have to switch between them and they occupy the full screen. You may want to look into the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition which gives you more storage for the buck and adds GREAT pen features with the S Pen. Plus it lets you have two apps open on the screen at once. I open my favorite pen note taking app called INKredible and Logos at the same time. I write notes as I study.
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