Can I open a collection in a tab?

I'm very impressed with Logos 4, and have just begun to scratch the surface of its usability.

I have created a few collections (is there a way to select more than one resource at a time to "plus" or "minus"?) with the intention of opening that collection in a tab. So far, I haven't found a way to open a collection as a tab. I can open the collection as a list of books, but I would like to be able to have a layout with my favorite collections listed as tabs (Commentaries, Dictionaries, Study Bibles, Illustrations, etc.) linked to the Scripture window. The advantage of this would be that I could easily navigate between collections and use the arrow keys to switch between books in the collection. Is this possible?

PS: For some reason, the arrow navigation is not seamless at this point as it was in Logos 3.

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Tim McPherson

I found that if I open a commentary in a tab, I can arrow through the commentaries, likewise the dictionaries in another tab. However, I have a lot of commentaries and dictionaries, and would like the ability to only arrow through those that I have in a custom collection.

When I attempt to arrow through other books that I have opened in a tab, such as illustrations, Logos 4 does not find similar illustration resources. So, I would still like to know if I can include a custom collection in a tab that will allow me to cycle through other books in the collection.

Thanks!

Robert Pavich

Tim,

No..you can't do that. The arrows go the the next equivelant resource that deals with the subject or passage...based on your prioritization.

What you could do is open your favorite collection in a certain window and link them, when one moves, they all do.

The arrow navigation is a little different than in V3; yes.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/62498#Comment_62498

I found that if I open a commentary in a tab, I can arrow through the commentaries, likewise the dictionaries in another tab. However, I have a lot of commentaries and dictionaries, and would like the ability to only arrow through those that I have in a custom collection.

When I attempt to arrow through other books that I have opened in a tab, such as illustrations, Logos 4 does not find similar illustration resources. So, I would still like to know if I can include a custom collection in a tab that will allow me to cycle through other books in the collection.

The basic answer is NO. In L3 that functionality was accomplished with Parallel Resource Associations (PRA) and users often confused them with Collections. I believe that Logos will bring back that functionality - http://community.logos.com/forums/p/3773/29072.aspx

Also check http://community.logos.com/forums/t/6529.aspx

spitzerpl

The best way to do this that i can think of is to save the resources you want to open in a "Favorites" folder (Tools>Favorites). Then when you want to open all those resources in tabs right click on the folder and select "Open All" or "Open All in floating Window". While it looses the dynamic aspect to L4 collections, it still gets the job done.

Tim McPherson

Thanks everyone. Now I have some things to try. Does anyone else think this would be a good idea? I've been looking at videos on collections, nesting collections, etc. With this capability, as well as the "favorites" and tagging, maybe I'll find another way that I eventually like better than arrowing through a custom collection--which at this point I think I would like to suggest to Logos.

by the way...

(is there a way to select more than one resource at a time to "plus" or "minus"?).

I found that this can be accomplished in the library, but not in the "resulting collection" list. The usual shift or ctrl keys work for selecting multiple resources.

spitzerpl

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/62525#Comment_62525

Does anyone else think this would be a good idea?

I can only speak for myself but I probably wouldn't use this. Generally my collections contain many books, to many to reasonably open at one time. I would rather put my favorite "theology" books in a favorites folder and open them that way.

Jim

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/62576#Comment_62576

Does anyone else think this would be a good idea?

I just found this in the forums. Tim's suggestion makes a lot of sense to me. For example, in the past several months I've studied a number of NT books. Today I'm just setting up to study Ephesians. I have a number of books either on, or related to, Ephesians that I want open in a separate window whenever I study Ephesians. They don't show up in the commentary lists, so I either find them in the Library, or stumble upon them in study, or have some favorites.

In the past I've created a set of Favorites that can be opened as a group, but from recent experience I find that I want to search that group of resources so I created a collection and it seems natural from there to be able to open the collection in a window all at once.

So I think it would be a logical feature. Search for a group of resources, create a collection, and be able to search that collection or open it.

Furthermore, when opening parallel resources, I don't want the list to be huge. It takes a long time to open the list, plus I then have to search it every time I want to find the next related book (Find something on Ephesians rather than all commentaries). I've been wondering for some time how I can create a collection that opens as a set of parallel resources and have been wishing that I either understood how to control parallel resources better or that Logos would make this easier. I probably just don't know how to do it, but it seems L4 is less functional than L3 in this regard, though L3's parallel resource sets could have been made more user friendly.

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/287075#Comment_287075

Today I'm just setting up to study Ephesians. I have a number of books either on, or related to, Ephesians that I want open in a separate window whenever I study Ephesians.

Option: can vote for Logos User Voice suggestion => Floating window layouts

Recently created a Commentary 70 Ephesians collection using rule:

Type:("Bible Notes",Commentary) AND (Subject:(Ephesians,"Epistles of Paul"),Title:Ephesians)

then added collection of New Testament One Volume Commentaries. Thankful can add commentary section to Passage Guide or Exegetical Guide, then choose to look in Ephesians collection.

Also have prioritized all commentary series so when reading one commentary can click "+" to open a new tab, which has list of commentaries in priority order on right side that contain verse.

Keep Smiling [:)]

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/287075#Comment_287075

Furthermore, when opening parallel resources, I don't want the list to be huge.

Unfortunately, L4 always opens a list of "All Parallel Resources" because it is not confident that users will create their own collections and remember to tick the "Show in parallel Resources" box! If you do tick that box then your collection will be shown after you open one of its resources.

The trick however, is that all the resources must have the same index to be listed as a parallel resource e.g. commentaries (or Bible Notes) on Ephesians or single-volume commentaries. A book (on Ephesians) without a bible index cannot be listed. However, you can open the Collections tool in a tab and save it as part of your Layout after opening the collection on Ephesians, say. Then you can open any resource. and use Parallel Resource sets to minimise the number of tabs.