Working on a paper... Thanks in advance.
Dispensationalism takes several forms so there is not just one name, but Charles Ryrie would have to be one of the top people to read. Logos has several of his books, but unfortunately does not have the one you really need simply titled "Dispensationalism." If you look for it elsewhere make sure you get the revised edition.
Charles Ryrie would be one to consider. I had him as a prof in college, and several of his books are in Logos including What You Should Know about the Rapture.
Okay - I know very very little about dispensationalism and have no well-formed opinion as to which view is correct, but even I know the answer to this one. Pre-eminent authority? God. Book in Logos? Yes. [;)]
Dispensationalism takes several forms
Ryrie is a good name for the classic view of dispensationalism, as is his instructor Chafer.
From personal experience the dispensationalism in the pews is this classic Chafer/Ryrie/Larkin/Scofield kind. However, the scholarly dispensational community (read: DTS) is moving much closer to traditional views (and I won't comment on why that's happening). To read about this check out Progressive Dispensationalism, which has become the name of this new wave of dispensational thinking.
Lewis Sperry Chafer - https://www.logos.com/product/15148/dispensationalism or https://www.logos.com/products/search?Author=10378%7cLewis+Sperry+Chafer
Chafer, John Walvoord, and Ryrie would be the first 3 names that would come to mind. 2 were Presidents of Dallas Theological Seminary and the 3rd was a long time professor there.
Thanks for all the input. As it happens, I have most of the people and titles suggested already on the list. I didn't have the Ryrie title on the rapture (which I purchased) however, and I went ahead and picked up Chafer's title in Logos (though I have it in print).Zondervan has a counterpoint title on the rapture that I wish I could pick up in Logos as well. I probably have Walvoord's writings on eschatology as well, if its in logos. Thanks for all the help!Anyone have suggestions for Historic Premillennialism?
FWIW, Ryrie's Dispensationalism is in Logos, however it was pulled when Moody pulled their works in Logos. You may be able to find other channels to get a copy and transfer the license.
As for Historical Premillenialism, I know Francis Shaeffer held that view, but again his works are no longer available in Logos, but see above for getting a copy.
Maybe not pre-eminent, but Grant Osborne on Revelation is a hard resource to beat. http://www.logos.com/product/23958/baker-exegetical-commentary-on-the-new-testament I don't think he writes significantly about eschatology, but I'm pretty sure D.A. Carson puts himself in the Historic Premil camp. I know that all professors at TEDS are required to sign a statement regarding premillennialism.
FWIW, Ryrie's Dispensationalism is in Logos, however it was pulled when Moody pulled their works in Logos. You may be able to find other channels to get a copy and transfer the license. As for Historical Premillenialism, I know Francis Shaeffer held that view, but again his works are no longer available in Logos, but see above for getting a copy.
For some reason a Ryrie collection remained available after the Moody press withdrawal. Here is one work - https://www.logos.com/product/9092/the-basis-of-premillennial-faith and here is another https://www.logos.com/product/9087/what-you-should-know-about-the-rapture
I am fairly new to this but there is a book, "Are we Living in the End Times" written by Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins. Tim LaHaye has several books on the subject. I don't think any are available in Logos. Hope this helps. I would be interested in what others think. [:)]
I am fairly new to this but there is a book, "Are we Living in the End Times" written by Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins. Tim LaHaye has several books on the subject. I don't think any are available in Logos. Hope this helps. I would be interested in what others think.
LaHaye has been very influential on "in-the-pew" dispensationalism so could be very helpful on a paper with that topic in mind.
As far as what people think... If, like 99%+ of all Christians ever, you're not a dispensationalist you are not going to like LaHaye.
Welcome to the forums, David!
I'm sure you've thought of this already ... sorry ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalism
Thanks for all the help!Anyone have suggestions for Historic Premillennialism?
The authority on historical Premillennialism was George Eldon Ladd, who has several books on the topic. There's also A Case for Historic Premillennialism, written by the Denver Seminary faculty. Also, Grudem, Erickson and Bird are historic premillennialists who discuss this in their respective systematic theologies.
Scofield is one among many. His notes on his study Bible reflect that.
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As someone who teaches a bit in the area, Michael Vlach's books are mainstream and helpful. Has the Church Replaced Israel? covers a lot of the ground (and is in Vyrso). Dispensationalism: Essential Beliefs and Common Myths is also helpful (though not a Logos product). Those are more recent helpful, mainstream dispensational works.
Chafer is historically interesting, but has a relatively small impact in many of the specific areas today (not a knock on him, just an observation). If you compare Chafer to most modern dispensationalists, you will see significant areas of difference. Ryrie is probably the most important of the "revised" or "essentialist" school (but Walvoord, Pentecost, and a few others have significant influence). Blaising, Bock and Saucy are the most prominent "progressive" dispensationalists. There is probably space for a few more recent books in the area. The history needs to be updated a bit and I think there are some other areas where work has been done but not organized or synthesized. That's my opinion for what it is worth.
There's lots more to say, but I think that's enough for now.
For Dispensational Pre-millennialism I would agree with all who mentioned Chafer, Ryrie and Walvoord.
Chafer's Systematic Theology is probably the most thorough, overall systematic theology. Ryrie's Basic Theology would be my second stop. Then, Chafer's Major Bible Themes, and the rest of Chafer's and Ryrie's works, especially: Dispensationalism, The Basis of Premillennial Faith, and Walvoord's The Prophecy Knowledge Handbook.
As other's mentioned, Ladd, The Last Things, Clark and others are Historic Premillennialists. This is not the same. Nor is Progressive Dispensationalism, Blaising, Bock, Saucy.
I would recommend Shower's There Really is a Difference, which will explain some of the distinctions between Covenant and Dispensational views succinctly.
Progressive Dispensationalism, I believe, falls between Dispensational Pre-mil, and Covenant Theology, mostly differing in its treatment of Israel, and prophecy. Fruchtenbaum has good material which is Dispensational Pre-millennialist, and is coming from a Messianic Christian perspective. His teaching on the church and Israel, is good, especially Israelology, the missing aspect in most theologies.
**However, for a one volume handling of Dispensational Pre-millennialism without the full systematic theology, I personally find J. Dwight Pentecost's Things to Come second to none in handling this theological framework, and in examining the relevant scriptures. Unfortunately, it is not available in Logos, though I have suggested it, and hope that someday it will be available.
Major differences in these systems would be: Method of Bible Interpretation, especially in regard to prophecy; Israel and the church; understanding of Kingdom of God; understanding of "the Day of the Lord".
That being said, I would also recommend: Zuck, Basic Bible Interpretation
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Zuck Basic Bible Interpretation, Vital Issues Series
Chafer The Kingdom in History and Prophecy
Pentecost Thy Kingdom Come
Clarence Larkin has good material, succinct with great diagrams.
Robert Thomas, his Exegetical Commentary on Revelation is (was) in Logos.
Sadly, it was a victim of the infamous Moody dispute. I would love to see it return to Logos.
Grant Osborne on Revelation is a hard resource to bea
Would he be considered historic premillennial?
For Dispensational Pre-millennialism I would agree with all who mentioned Chafer, Ryrie and Walvoord. Walvoord's The Prophecy Knowledge Handbook. I would recommend Shower's There Really is a Difference, which will explain some of the distinctions between Covenant and Dispensational views succinctly. **However, for a one volume handling of Dispensational Pre-millennialism without the full systematic theology, I personally find J. Dwight Pentecost's Things to Come second to none in handling this theological framework, and in examining the relevant scriptures. Unfortunately, it is not available in Logos, though I have suggested it, and hope that someday it will be available.
Walvoord's The Prophecy Knowledge Handbook.
I heartily recommend the three resources above from Mike's post. I'd also add some of Dave Hunt's works, as he is a classic Premillennial Dispensationalist and does a nice job of succinctly pointing out aspects of the belief structure in the following books, "How Close are We?", "Global Peace and the Rise of Anti-Christ", "Whatever Happened to Heaven" (which deals with some of the different views on eschatology down through the centuries), "A Woman Rides the Beast", "A Cup of Trembling", and "Judgment Day."
It would be a dream come true for me if Logos would carry at least some of Dave's books.
Great information from everyone - thanks!One of my professors, and a member of this forum is the son-in-law of Pentecost.I ordered that title off amazon.
Scofield practically coined the dispensational perspective. at a less scholarly, but still valuable level: Larkin for his graphic representations.
One of my professors, and a member of this forum is the son-in-law of Pentecost.
Be very sure that you quote Things to Come [;)]
The best on Historic Pre-millenialism is George Eldon Ladd.
https://www.logos.com/products/search?q=Ladd&Author=5641%7cGeorge+Eldon+Ladd&redirecttoauthor=true
Dave
Yes. As is James Montgomery Boice.
The most prominent Historical Premillenial scholar is George Ladd, and Logos has a George Ladd collection.
Forgive my comment here, but George N. H. Peters would be a great resource to add to those already mentioned, and it is available from Logos. In three volumes, Peters in his work The Theocratic Kingdom is the most thorough scholar I've encountered in the field of Bible prophecy. Dr. Dwight Pentecost cites Peters a number of times in his great work, Things to Come. In my estimation, Ladd and some other contemporary scholars, even Tim LeHaye, might have written even better volumes than they have had they made a careful study of Peters first.
There are 3 ways to get this resource by Peters in Logos:
1. https://www.logos.com/product/28578/the-theocratic-kingdom-of-our-lord-jesus-the-christ
2. https://www.logos.com/product/8600/goodly-heritage-library-shelf-three
3. https://www.logos.com/product/8404/goodly-heritage-library-shelves-1-3
I emailed my sales person about the third option. Thanks for bringing it up. I think I had that title on pre-pub, but it must have finished at an inopportune time.
Different prof unfortunately. But yes, had I been writing about Eschatology for him, I'd have quoted Pentecost. Still may, I have that book in my print library
