Maps and other features
I downloaded Logos 6 last evening and began to use it just a little when I discovered one feature that I am not to thrilled about. As an expository preacher, I do a great deal of work in grammatical, historical, cultural and geographical areas. Now, Logos 6 is suppose to make bible study faster, but it has not it has made it slower.
Here is how: I notice when I brought up my atlas and ran the exact same search that the video on the web site ran (Jesus and the Samaritan woman in John 4) and it told me that maps are not available while working off line. And so my maps are going to load in accordance with the speed of my internet connection now? I dont like that feature and I dont remember Logos ever having that feature before. I have always been able to ran any map I want based on my collection without having to be "online". So it slows up the building of the map, and what other features are required to be "online" before you can use them (besides the visual copy).
I have always kept my internet off for a couple of reasons: 1) it makes the software run faster for it to be off because it is not syunchronizing everytime I do something on my screen, 2) because with all the updates coming out, historically, I have read some nightmares with people who have downloaded an update and it crashed their system or other problems. So I have always waited and watched the forum to make sure that the problem got fixed before I downloaded the update. Now, if I have to use the map and other feature (which, by the way, doesnt say on any of the videos that internet has to be "on") I run the risk of Logos going to get a defected update.
These are just concerns and I am not sure why Logos felt like they had to change that in Logos 6. Now, if I am missing something and there is a way around that, great! But I have used the maps feature for a long time and have never had to be online.
I am hoping that many other people will complain about that feature so that Logso will go back, because as I said that really slows down bible study instead of speeding it up.
Pastor Michael Huffman, Th.A Th.B Th.M
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I have always kept my internet off for a couple of reasons: 1) it makes the software run faster for it to be off because it is not syunchronizing everytime I do something on my screen, 2) because with all the updates coming out, historically, I have read some nightmares with people who have downloaded an update and it crashed their system or other problems. So I have always waited and watched the forum to make sure that the problem got fixed before I downloaded the update. Now, if I have to use the map and other feature (which, by the way, doesnt say on any of the videos that internet has to be "on") I run the risk of Logos going to get a defected update.
Bob explains further here why some features are only available online. Practically speaking, there's no other way to deliver the Atlas maps: there's simply too much data. Furthermore, you don't need it all at once: you only need the part you're looking at. We've had to do quite a bit of engineering (like Google and Bing maps) to provide the zooming, interactive experience while ensuring performance is reasonable for most people.
I have always kept my internet off for a couple of reasons: (...) 2) because with all the updates coming out, historically, I have read some nightmares with people who have downloaded an update and it crashed their system or other problems. So I have always waited and watched the forum to make sure that the problem got fixed before I downloaded the update.
Just wanted to clear this up:
You don't need to have internet off to prevent updates. Just go to Program Settings and set Automatic Updates to No. That will alert you when an update is available, but it won't start until you manually authorise it.
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Is there a way to "create" a map with only the locations you want to show up?
Is there a way to "create" a map with only the locations you want to show up?
I think I have been asking for this since Logos 4! Please, Logos...pretty please!
Charlene
Is there a way to "create" a map with only the locations you want to show up?
This would be very helpful when teaching.
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The Atlas maps are separate from the previously existing maps; you haven't lost those. You can now run a Media Search and specify "Maps" in the media type, to see all the maps in your Library collection. In addition, the maps that were in Bible Facts are now available as a standalone resource "Biblical Places Maps", which can be found in your Library.
The Atlas maps are new, and are the only ones which require an internet connection. This is because they are very, very large (terabytes!) and will eventually - not all are currently completed - map all of our outline of Biblical stories, ~300 maps in total.
Dylan Rondeau, Software Tester
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Terabytes divided by 300, sounds like this is a feature I can't afford net-wise. I can see why the maps don't stick around on ones PC too long.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
Which is why it should be communicated somewhere other than the forums. The label: "ATLAS" infers the place where all the maps will be. I am grateful I finally saw a post "Disappointed with Maps in Logos 6" where I learned the cryptic way to get to the maps...."Oh.......there in their own resource!" We shouldn't have to guess where they are when there is a new and improved tool labeled "Atlas". Logos 6 is great, but the videos about the atlas suggest that is all there is. I thought that for about a day and a half until I read the post.
I can see where the confusion would come in. However, I am glad you were able to get an answer from the community. I think with a new launch we need to be careful to make sure we are extending grace to our brothers and sisters at Faithlife. There are a lot of moving parts and they work diligently for us to make sure they get them right.
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Dan: I'm sorry you had problems finding things. There are now two kinds of maps, so they're in different places:
Both maps (and others) are searchable with Media Search: Bradley describes that here.
Thanks Sean. It's also helpful to understand the mammoth size of the zoomable map project that you guys are undertaking. It makes sense that we wouldn't want to download it. I'll just adjust my terminology to understand "Atlas" is the zoomable online maps, and Maps are in "Biblical places maps" Thank you for being patient and helpful with our learning curve on the user side.
Will the other maps be zoomable and full screen such as the ESV Bible Maps and will they be located in Atlas or Biblical Place Maps? In Logos 5 all maps were zoomable.
Sorry, but that doesn't make sense to me. A terabyte is a very large amount of space. I have a mid-level 18 MP digital camera and I can literally fit between 100,000 and 200,000 photos in a terabyte! In addition, an illustration takes up a LOT less space than a digital photo (since they have less variation at the pixel level and can be compressed much more).
How can 300 illustrative maps take up more room than 100,000 - 200,000 digital photos?
the way I remember it described its not 300 illustrated maps. There are 8 zoom levels for the maps. Each zoom level is made up of multiple "pictures". The first zoom level is one picture. when you get to the second zoom level four picturns. The next zoom level requires four maps to cover the same territory as one tile from the previous level, thus 16 pictures total. By the time you get to the closest zoom level you need a lot of pictures to cover the territory.