How many commentaries are to many?

Lee
Lee Member Posts: 1,148 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

I was just thinking the other day how many are to many?

Also what is the best way of counting in library view?

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  • Unix
    Unix Member Posts: 2,192

    When You cover every part of Your canon, or when You have each and every most recent commentary, or when they consist a huge part of Your library, or when You buy base-packages based on what commentary sets are in them:

    Lee said:

    I was just thinking the other day how many are to many?

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  • Allen Browne
    Allen Browne Member Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭

    Lee said:

    I was just thinking the other day how many are to many?

    In practice, any you can't use are "too many." The trouble with that definition is that we often buy in sets (e.g. I just got some more as part of the upgrade pack I chose for Logos 6). But when I'm buying commentaries these days, I ask what it will provide that I don't already have. Since most commentaries cross-reference the significant literature, there's no point buying more that just say the same thing.

    Lee said:

    Also what is the best way of counting in library view?

    1. Open the Library pane in a new window (via a right-click).
    2. Show in Details view.
    3. Click on the Type column.

    Logos 6 now collapses your library by Type, and gives you a count of each type. You will see how many Bible Commentaries you have, as well as how many other commentaries you have (on things like ancient Greek or Latin texts).

  • Erwin Stull, Sr.
    Erwin Stull, Sr. Member Posts: 2,793

    Lee said:

    I was just thinking the other day how many are to many?

    Also what is the best way of counting in library view?

    Someone once said that you can never have too many (can't remember who). I kind of agree with that. Although the Word of God never changes, the way it is explained does. Once you have more than a few commentaries, you have to be aware that they borrow from each other. This is something to take into consideration when adding to your library.

    The best way that I have found in counting your commentaries is to create a collection with the rule "subject:commentaries" (without the quotes). That search term also works in "Library View".

  • Lee
    Lee Member Posts: 1,148 ✭✭

    Ok 

    Thanks Allen so thats 773 Bible commentaries.

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  • Cynthia Tucker
    Cynthia Tucker Member Posts: 33

    I have 874. I'm at 6 Gold Standard now and have my eye on some commentary-heavy packages. I can't get enough of 'em! [:D]

  • John Kaess
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  • John Fidel
    John Fidel MVP Posts: 3,428

    For me it is important to get a good balance of types of commentaries (technical, devotional, grammatical etc) and to get good coverage of the various books of the bible. OT is somewhat lacking in my library compared to NT because there are so many NT sets that are strong and not so many OT only sets.

    I think a good OT commentary bundle would be nice especially if it can be discounted similarly to the other bundles.

    Too many? Only if they are not used.

  • abondservant
    abondservant Member Posts: 4,796 ✭✭✭

    no such thing as too many. I will have enough when I have a copy of all of them. OK... well maybe all the ones I care about :)

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  • Dan Francis
    Dan Francis Member Posts: 5,339 ✭✭✭

    I type in the word commentary in my Library and 1788 pops up. I do wish to finish series as they get released but I tend to have more than I need. Some older ones that were picked up in Community pricing for example rarely get used....

    -Dan

  • Mike Tourangeau
    Mike Tourangeau Member Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭

    [Y]

    What is this "too many" of which you speak?

    Ha! :) I have found that with the new search features in L6 I am using more of my commentarie. For instance the search {Milestone<bible ref>} combined with "within" help find very specific topics in relation to particular passages. Having more commentaris can only broaden the scope. 

  • Unix
    Unix Member Posts: 2,192

    [Y] Does that work with monographs as well?:

    Ha! :) I have found that with the new search features in L6 I am using more of my commentaries. For instance the search {Milestone<bible ref>} combined with "within" help find very specific topics in relation to particular passages. Having more commentaris can only broaden the scope:

    What is this "too many" of which you speak?

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  • Jack Caviness
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    Lee said:

    I was just thinking the other day how many are to many?

    Just a few more than I currently own [:D] (To paraphrase John D Rockefeller)

  • Cynthia Tucker
    Cynthia Tucker Member Posts: 33

    You can get a more accurate count of your commentaries by displaying the Type column in the library and then clicking on it to sort by type. It'll show the number of each type of Resource in you own.

  • Andy
    Andy Member Posts: 2,282

    Lee said:

    Also what is the best way of counting in library view?

    1. Open the Library pane in a new window (via a right-click).
    2. Show in Details view.
    3. Click on the Type column.

    Alternatively, "type:commentary" in the Library such field will achieve the same thing (but is, perhaps, slightly less cluttered as it removes every other type from the Library pane). Additionally, this will also work in iOS.

    Blessings

  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    Logos 6 now collapses your library by Type, and gives you a count of each type. You will see how many Bible Commentaries you have, as well as how many other commentaries you have (on things like ancient Greek or Latin texts).

    Note that that count isn't very exact. Logos merges some commentaries, and splits others.

    Alternatively, "type:commentary" in the Library such field will achieve the same thing (but is, perhaps, slightly less cluttered as it removes every other type from the Library pane).

    You'd still have to sort by type as well, unless you want Commentaries and Bible Commentaries mixed up.

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  • Bruce Dunning
    Bruce Dunning MVP Posts: 11,148

    Lee said:

    I was just thinking the other day how many are to many?

    Just a few more than I currently own Big Smile (To paraphrase John D Rockefeller)

    [:D]

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  • Whyndell Grizzard
    Whyndell Grizzard Member Posts: 3,504 ✭✭✭

    the simple answer is 2,000,000,000- but then you would have to hire everyone who has Logos 6 to read them for you- I'm up for a part-time job [:O]

  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Member Posts: 3,501 ✭✭✭

    1.  When you run out of money, one more is too many.

    2. When you wife says, "Honey, could you help me figure out how to pay this bill?"

    3.  When you have bought everything ever written.

    4. When God says, "ENOUGH ALREADY!"

  • Dan Francis
    Dan Francis Member Posts: 5,339 ✭✭✭

    I type in the word commentary in my Library and 1788 pops up.

    Doing the proper type listing in Verbum the real number is 1524 for what it is worth...

    -Dan

  • abondservant
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  • mab
    mab Member Posts: 3,069 ✭✭✭

    I don't really think about commentaries as much as I used to do since I have most of the ones I consider useful and probably more of others that came in some package or other.

    There is a real problem in using commentaries too much. It's ridiculously easy to do that in Logos. 

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  • Robert Harner
    Robert Harner Member Posts: 461 ✭✭

    It looks like the most accurate is: type:"bible commentary"    (I have 3,397)

    type:"commentary" ANDNOT type:"bible commentary"  -  shows another 79

  • Josh Hunt
    Josh Hunt Member Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭

    They say that people, regardless of income, think about 20% more money would make them happy. I only want 20% more books. 

  • Doc B
    Doc B Member Posts: 3,604 ✭✭✭

    Lee said:

    I was just thinking the other day how many are to many?

    In an attempt to give a realistic answer, I'll tell you what works for me, knowing YMMV.

    I almost never look at more than four or five different commentaries on a particular passage, and that number will drop to about three if I have a commentary that I really like. I have those on about two-thirds of the books in the Bible...the go-to commentaries which really meet most of my needs.

    While some will say you can't have too many, that's just silly. You can.

    Some caveats:

    If you are a specialist (i.e., research academic, etc.), you'll need more of a greater variety than if you are a layperson teaching a SS class.

    If you have a settled confessional view of Scripture, you'll need fewer commentaries because you can focus on those which are friendly (or at least, not hostile) to your view.

    If you count your spiritual health by how many books you have on your shelves, vs. by how many you've read and digested, then you'll need many, many more.

    You will almost never find a set that is consistent with regard to quality from volume-to-volume. Prepare to build an eclectic set (which means you'll have some redundancies if you buy whole sets).

    That's my two euros worth. As I said, YMMV.

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  • Unix
    Unix Member Posts: 2,192

    That's a good point! I'd prefer read and digested:

    Doc B said:

    If you count your spiritual health by how many books you have on your shelves, vs. by how many you've read and digested, then you'll need many, many more.


    Also relevant to this is what was just discussed on Christianforums:



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    That's a very important point, thanks!:
    Originally Posted by rick357 View Post

    ...so the words themselves take form and effect our perception of what we read.
    We think of saved as related to our destination of heaven or hell...
    so we think when we are saved from sin it is about destination...instead of
    actions....so each one by perception has the concepts of truth shaded




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  • abondservant
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    I think a more accurate warning for this context is that the number of books on your shelf don't correlate to being a successful pastor, or exegete either.

    However, I still stand firm on wanting more commentaries. Many have a lot of duplicated content, but that one line in that one commentary that sets you thinking in a different direction. that deepens your view makes it (to me) worth it all in the end.

    I may not read every page on every book, but I read every page I can relevant to whatever the Lord has me studying at the time.

    1600 commentaries sounds like a lot, till you divide it by the number of books in the bible. That averages out to 24 per book of the bible. If a chapter is all that is relevant to what you're studying, thats only 24 chapters. When I read fiction for pleasure that was a days read, not a weeks, and I study for a week leading up to when I preach; longer if I can.

    I think there are some assumptions being made about the value of others methods when it comes to studying the bible. I can have quite a few more commentaries before I reach the point where I am unable to read them all before a sermon. I don't think its covetous or sinful for me to want to do my part of the sermon to the best of my ability; and in my process that requires more books. Maybe it doesn't in yours, and thats fine. I knew a guy who would write a 3 point sermon on a potty break after lunch before class. No books required. His ministry was fruitful - and he argued more spirit led. So long as we are using the gifts and resources we are given as God directs, then Praise God. I don't know what that looks like for most of you, but I do know what that looks like for me. The same is most likely true of you in regards to yourselves, and certainly true for you of your view of others.

    As a student, I've taxed my library quite a bit on certain subjects. I currently have a paper I'm writing on eschatology for a prof that disagrees with me and I daresay scripture (lets face it, any of us who hold a position convictionally & having studied the topic believe that scripture supports their view) on the subject. This may well be the most sources I have ever used or consulted in a paper... I'm over 30 pages of works consulted/works cited. This paper has guided some of my more recent purchases as well as some in my immediate future. Its a blessing to me, to have this many titles in my library.

    So just be careful tossing around judgement, as I am sure there are many out there that serve in a context, or with giftings' that make owning a bunch of commentaries worth while.

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  • Unix
    Unix Member Posts: 2,192

    Amen, that part is important!:

    So long as we are using the gifts and resources we are given as God directs, then Praise God.

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  • Wild Eagle
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    I picked many commentaries along with base packages. But in reality I am using about 3 sets constantly and if something is not cover d there, small chance it's covered on the other ones.  Usually I am doing my own research. Saying that, I would prefer to have few highly ranked commentaries sets, then hundreds of mediocre ones

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  • Unix
    Unix Member Posts: 2,192

    I agree:

    I would prefer to have few highly ranked commentary sets, than hundreds of mediocre ones

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  • abondservant
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