Horner's Reading Plan

Justin GatlinUser: "Justin Gatlin"
Justin Gatlin
Updated by Jason Stone (Logos)

I see that Logos 6 has changed the way reading plans are done. Is it now possible to do complicated programs like Horner's method, with the 10 rotating lists? (Read one chapter from each of ten lists of non-equal length, repeating each list when it is completed)

Using Logos as a pastor, seminary professor, and Tyndale author

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    TCBlackUser: "TCBlack"
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    Yes it is.  It would take some initial setup.  I've thought about trying to build it, but I kind of like my own little plan at the moment. :-)

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

    TCBlackUser: "TCBlack"
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    Note:

    Almost anything is possible with the custom reading plan.

    But I feel like I could make it work in "generate a reading plan" too.  So I ran a few tests, and It still doesn't break the way I want, but now that I can break it on chapters, it is better than it was.

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

    Jon ShearerUser: "Jon Shearer"
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    Justin & TCBlack - 

    I've not figured out how the custom reading plan tool works. Can either of you help me?

    I'm pretty far along on an Excel spreadsheet that will create Horner's reading plan. At least it will create the daily readings. I need to know how to format the output to make it easy to put into the reading plan tool.

    I started this last year so I'll have to refresh my memory on how it functions and I'l need to know what Logos expects to differentiate the chapters to be read each day from groups of days. Any help is highly appreciated. My wife will be happy too.

    Jon

    TCBlackUser: "TCBlack"
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    I've not figured out how the custom reading plan tool works.

    The custom reading plan lets you rigidly design  your reading plan, literally one entry at a time.  In order to pull off Horners plan with it, it will be very labor intensive.  AFAIK there's no means of bringing in a spreadsheet to make it happen.  

    In order to work with a custom reading plan, go ahead and create one (Documents> Reading plan).  Choose CUSTOM READING PLAN and go at it. 

    1. Set the starting date under "Add a reading session to today"
    2. Click "Type in a reference" (Genesis 1)
    3. Click"Type in a reference" (Matthew 1)
    4. repeat for each division in horner's plan.
    5. Click Add session
    6. The date will advance automatically.
    7. Return to #2 and advance the chapter numbers.

    When you're done, you will have spent a HUGE amount of time, but it will be "perfect". And it will be sharable with others VIA faithlife.

    OR

    Here's an alternative way to accomplish the same, based on Andrew Batishko's instructions.

    Horner's plan consists of 10 lists, each of them with different lengths.  This is what creates the power of intertextual reading.

    1. Create a new generated reading plan for The Gospels. Make it 89 Sessions long, and change the boundary setting from "default" to "chapter".
    2. Create a new generated reading plan for the Pentateuch. Make it 187 sessions long, and change the boundary setting from "default" to "chapter".
    3. Romans, I&II Cor, Gal, Eph, Phil, Col, Hebrews| 78 Sessions
    4. I&II ess, I&II Tim, Titus, Philemon, James, I&II Peter, I,II&III John, Jude, Revelation | 65 Sessions
    5. Job, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon | 62 Sessions
    6. Psalms | 150 Sessions
    7. Proverbs | 31 Sessions
    8. OT History | 249 Sessions
    9. Prophets | 250 Sessions
    10. Acts | 28 Sessions

    Now: Create one new CUSTOM reading plan.

    Click Add > Another reading plan at the top and one by one add your reading plans you just created. 

    This will properly break all books up by chapter.

    Now then you need to do some more work.

    You will have to scroll through the list and watch for where one of the sessions falls off.  Acts and Proverbs for example every 28 & 31 days respectively.  Then you will have to Add >>Another Reading Plan again, but make sure to choose the start date as the next day to pick back up again.  

    The hardest part of this is setting up the ten categories - but once that is done, it's done.  

    The second hardest part is ongoing: finding each time the reading in one section stops and you have to re-add it at that date.  I have not built it out, but I can see, if you wanted to spend the time, you could end up with a massive 10 year reading plan if you want. (I don't really know what the outer limits of Logos' reading plans are.)

    The Best part: Once it's done, you can share it with the FaithLife community. :-)

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

    Andrew BatishkoUser: "Andrew Batishko"
    Andrew Batishko

    Here's an alternative way to accomplish the same,

    I just finished up typing up a response to this. I went to check the thread before I posted it an found you beat me to it! I was going to suggest the exact same process, but I think you wrote a better explanation that I did. Thank you!

    AFAIK there's no means of bringing in a spreadsheet to make it happen.

    We were hoping to implement importing to a custom plan from a text file, but there wasn't time to get it into the 6.0 release. I'm hoping we'll have a chance to revisit that idea soon, but I can't make any promises when or if that will happen.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

    TCBlackUser: "TCBlack"
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    FWIW Prof Horner claims you'll never repeat the same ten chapters.  He's right, at least I think so.  I ran this through 100,000 iterations on a spreadsheet and then did a pattern match.  Only on Day 1 will you ever start in the first chapter of all sections at the same time.

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

    abondservantUser: "abondservant"
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    I've not figured out how the custom reading plan tool works.

    The custom reading plan lets you rigidly design  your reading plan, literally one entry at a time.  In order to pull off Horners plan with it, it will be very labor intensive.  AFAIK there's no means of bringing in a spreadsheet to make it happen.  

    In order to work with a custom reading plan, go ahead and create one (Documents> Reading plan).  Choose CUSTOM READING PLAN and go at it. 

    1. Set the starting date under "Add a reading session to today"
    2. Click "Type in a reference" (Genesis 1)
    3. Click"Type in a reference" (Matthew 1)
    4. repeat for each division in horner's plan.
    5. Click Add session
    6. The date will advance automatically.
    7. Return to #2 and advance the chapter numbers.

    When you're done, you will have spent a HUGE amount of time, but it will be "perfect". And it will be sharable with others VIA faithlife.

    OR

    Here's an alternative way to accomplish the same, based on Andrew Batishko's instructions.

    Horner's plan consists of 10 lists, each of them with different lengths.  This is what creates the power of intertextual reading.

    1. Create a new generated reading plan for The Gospels. Make it 89 Sessions long, and change the boundary setting from "default" to "chapter".
    2. Create a new generated reading plan for the Pentateuch. Make it 187 sessions long, and change the boundary setting from "default" to "chapter".
    3. Romans, I&II Cor, Gal, Eph, Phil, Col, Hebrews| 78 Sessions
    4. I&II ess, I&II Tim, Titus, Philemon, James, I&II Peter, I,II&III John, Jude, Revelation | 65 Sessions
    5. Job, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon | 62 Sessions
    6. Psalms | 150 Sessions
    7. Proverbs | 31 Sessions
    8. OT History | 249 Sessions
    9. Prophets | 250 Sessions
    10. Acts | 28 Sessions

    Now: Create one new CUSTOM reading plan.

    Click Add > Another reading plan at the top and one by one add your reading plans you just created. 

    This will properly break all books up by chapter.

    Now then you need to do some more work.

    You will have to scroll through the list and watch for where one of the sessions falls off.  Acts and Proverbs for example every 28 & 31 days respectively.  Then you will have to Add >>Another Reading Plan again, but make sure to choose the start date as the next day to pick back up again.  

    The hardest part of this is setting up the ten categories - but once that is done, it's done.  

    The second hardest part is ongoing: finding each time the reading in one section stops and you have to re-add it at that date.  I have not built it out, but I can see, if you wanted to spend the time, you could end up with a massive 10 year reading plan if you want. (I don't really know what the outer limits of Logos' reading plans are.)

    The Best part: Once it's done, you can share it with the FaithLife community. :-)


    Sounds like you have this set up already, any chance you'd share the document to a faithlife group so others could benefit?

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    TCBlackUser: "TCBlack"
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    Sounds like you have this set up already, any chance you'd share the document to a faithlife group so others could benefit

    I've requested membership on the Grant Horner (author) page. That seems like the best place to share it to.  Unless you have another suggestion.

    The doc is still in process.

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

    User: "David Taylor, Jr."
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    Sounds like you have this set up already, any chance you'd share the document to a faithlife group so others could benefit

    I've requested membership on the Grant Horner (author) page. That seems like the best place to share it to.  Unless you have another suggestion.

    The doc is still in process.

    Could you just share it through documents.logos.com?

    davidtaylorjr.com

    TCBlackUser: "TCBlack"
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    Could you just share it through documents.logos.com?
    Not without a group to collaborate with.

    So I created one: Professor Grant Horner's Bible Reading Plan.

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

    User: "David Taylor, Jr."
    David Taylor, Jr.
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    Could you just share it through documents.logos.com?
    Not without a group to collaborate with.

    So I created one: Professor Grant Horner's Bible Reading Plan.

    FWIW: If you publish directly from documents.logos.com you can publish to everyone.

    davidtaylorjr.com

    User: "Robert Harner"
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     like Horner's method

    I easily do my methods in V6! btw it's an 'a' not 'o'     [:)]

    User: "Rosie Perera"
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    I was googling around to find out what Horner's Reading Plan is (found this good explanation), and I discovered that there's a web app that does all the work for you, so you don't even need to go flipping around to different parts of Scripture. It would be cool if Logos could integrate something like this.

    http://thetenlists.appspot.com/ 

    There's also a Facebook group for it:

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Prof-Horners-Bible-Reading-System/148160145252358 

    User: "Richard Wardman"
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    Thanks Rosie.

    You can also get the Horner plan in the YouVersion Bible app, but who wouldn't want it in L6!? 

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