BDAG search question
How do you limit this search to john 11
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Mike McKnelly said:
How do you limit this search to john 11
Hope this answers your question:
The word good does not appear in Jn 11. Ticking Extended definition and Formal equivalent returns no entries.
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Mike McKnelly said:
How do you limit this search to john 11
You can't really limit lexicons to Bible chapters. That's not how they work.
What are you actually trying to achieve? The Bible Word Study guide might be a better bet.
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I was trying to find the exact meaning good in good shepherd without scrolling through BDAG
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Mike McKnelly said:
I was trying to find the exact meaning good in good shepherd without scrolling through BDAG
You won't find that in John 11. That's in John 10:14.
You could try going to the entry in BDAG for that lemma (καλός), and then from there search (using the Ctrl+F key and repeatedly hitting Enter to get to each subsequent occurrence) for J (J followed by a space), which is BDAG's abbreviation for the book of John. I wouldn't search for J 10, because that might miss cases where a verse in John 10 was given in a list of other verses in John, including some in earlier chapters, in which case the J would not be repeated in front of the 10.
In this case, I was able to find exactly that reference after only a couple of hits:
So it looks like, according to the authors of BDAG, this instance of good (καλός) means "in any respect unobjectionable, blameless, excellent."
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Mike McKnelly said:
I was trying to find the exact meaning good in good shepherd without scrolling through BDAG
The Good Shepherd is in John 10, not John 11. Personally, I think the best way to accomplish what you're looking for is to:
- Right-click on the word 'good' in a reverse-interlinear Bible. Select the Lemma, and look up the lemma in BDAG.
- In the BDAG visual filter, make sure that "Links to Open Panels" is selected.
- Scan through the BDAG article on that lemma, and look for highlighted Bible references.
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Rosie Perera said:
You could try going to the entry in BDAG for that lemma (καλός), and then from there search (using the Ctrl+F key and repeatedly hitting Enter to get to each subsequent occurrence) for J (J followed by a space), which is BDAG's abbreviation for the book of John. I wouldn't search for J 10, because that might miss cases where a verse in John 10 was given in a list of other verses in John, including some in earlier chapters, in which case the J would not be repeated in front of the 10.
Inline search might be better than CTRL+F if you're going to use this method. Inline search would allow you to specify <Jn 10> as a Bible reference, which saves guessing what the abbreviation might be. Then you could use the search result arrows to find the precise location.
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Mark Barnes said:Rosie Perera said:
You could try going to the entry in BDAG for that lemma (καλός), and then from there search (using the Ctrl+F key and repeatedly hitting Enter to get to each subsequent occurrence) for J (J followed by a space), which is BDAG's abbreviation for the book of John. I wouldn't search for J 10, because that might miss cases where a verse in John 10 was given in a list of other verses in John, including some in earlier chapters, in which case the J would not be repeated in front of the 10.
Inline search might be better than CTRL+F if you're going to use this method. Inline search would allow you to specify <Jn 10> as a Bible reference, which saves guessing what the abbreviation might be. Then you could use the search result arrows to find the precise location.
I haven't used inline search yet and had forgotten it existed. Yes, you could do that, but it appears that once you find the results, not enough context is shown to figure out what he was really looking for which is the definition that the Jn 10 reference falls inside.
It took me a bit of experimenting to find out how to get back to that larger context. My first attempt, clicking on the highlighted Jn 10:14 reference, didn't do it for me. It opened my default Bible to that verse. But then clicking on the grey καλός preceding that hit did expand back to the full entry, but again it's hard to see where that Jn 10 hit is, so it's hard to tell where I am contextually, and to realize that I need to scroll up a line to get the definition.
I think your other answer of using "Links to Open Panels" visual filter is the best.
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Rosie Perera said:
I haven't used inline search yet and had forgotten it existed. Yes, you could do that, but it appears that once you find the results, not enough context is shown to figure out what he was really looking for which is the definition that the Jn 10 reference falls inside.
You set the context in the inline search bar. You've currently got it set to "sentence". "Article" would be a better choice for this search.
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Brilliant. I'm constantly learning new things about Logos. I hadn't even noticed the context dropdown.
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Rosie Perera said:
Brilliant. I'm constantly learning new things about Logos. I hadn't even noticed the context dropdown.
I hope I may add a little something to this conversation. I'm learning new things, too. As I was going through these steps I recalled the Lexicon Alignment tool (outline formatting in the visual filters menu of the lexicon) I saw in the features section. I checked that box and, WOW, what a difference in the layout! The readability of the lexicon was outstanding. I'm not sure if this is new to 6 but it's certainly new to me [8-|]
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Scott E. Mahle said:
As I was going through these steps I recalled the Lexicon Alignment tool (outline formatting in the visual filters menu of the lexicon) I saw in the features section. I checked that box and, WOW, what a difference in the layout! The readability of the lexicon was outstanding. I'm not sure if this is new to 6 but it's certainly new to me
This is new to Logos 6 and a great feature!
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Scott E. Mahle said:
I hope I may add a little something to this conversation. I'm learning new things, too. As I was going through these steps I recalled the Lexicon Alignment tool (outline formatting in the visual filters menu of the lexicon) I saw in the features section. I checked that box and, WOW, what a difference in the layout! The readability of the lexicon was outstanding. I'm not sure if this is new to 6 but it's certainly new to me
Yes, it's very nice! I'd forgotten about that too.
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