Which missing TJL journals would you like us to do next?

Rosie and I were discussing how we're prioritizing the journals we're trying to acquire, and I thought it might be useful to gather your input in this form. For now I've included only the 20 journals we're missing from TJL. If this is a useful way to get organized feedback, we may try it with a larger batch of other journals we've never had before.

Thanks for your input.

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David Paul

I keep replying to this question with the following reply, and I doubt anyone can come up with a better bang-for-the-buck suggestion.

My strong desire (years in incubation) is that Logos's next journal acquisitions should be Vetus Testamentum and Novum Testamentum.

Why? Simple...nothing else I know of can put up these numbers...

Nothing comes close to these in terms of consistent disappointment due to lack of availability.

Phil Gons (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/675198#Comment_675198

I keep replying to this question with the following reply, and I doubt anyone can come up with a better bang-for-the-buck suggestion.

My strong desire (years in incubation) is that Logos's next journal acquisitions should be Vetus Testamentum and Novum Testamentum.

Why? Simple...nothing else I know of can put up these numbers...

Nothing comes close to these in terms of consistent disappointment due to lack of availability.

I agree, and we'll get to this. But for now I'd like to focus on the missing TJL journals in this thread.

Rosie Perera

Rosie and I were discussing how we're prioritizing the journals we're trying to acquire, and I thought it might be useful to gather your input in this form. For now I've included only the 20 journals we're missing from TJL. If this is a useful way to get organized feedback, we may try it with a larger batch of other journals we've never had before.

Thanks, Phil! That's a great way to get input. So far only 7 people have replied, and it's hard to even believe that figure since no single journal had more than 3 votes. So it's too little data yet to draw any conclusions, but at least I'm glad to see that everyone else who voted also voted for my top 4 journals (among the TLJ) as priority 1.

It will be interesting to see how the results come in. I hope it's useful to you, as I'd like to see this expanded to a larger list, however it might be kind of overwhelming to try to rate all 136 of the journals that you have in your top tier.

Lynden O. Williams

Rosie and I were discussing how we're prioritizing the journals we're trying to acquire, and I thought it might be useful to gather your input in this form. For now I've included only the 20 journals we're missing from TJL. If this is a useful way to get organized feedback, we may try it with a larger batch of other journals we've never had before.

Thanks for your input.

Nothing on the list screams at me, so finish the TJL. I only have 1 - 8. You know my bias, but I realize that is a work in progress.

Rayner

Rosie and I were discussing how we're prioritizing the journals we're trying to acquire, and I thought it might be useful to gather your input in this form. For now I've included only the 20 journals we're missing from TJL. If this is a useful way to get organized feedback, we may try it with a larger batch of other journals we've never had before.

Thanks for your input.

Great idea. As it happens, I've no particular desire for any of the journals on that list so I'm not going to vote as I'd end up skewing it for others. The journals that I'd like to see are the ones that you've said are already on your journals wish list in this thread in the Anglican forum.

John Fidel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/675222#Comment_675222

I did not realize this was rating the TJL journals missing from the current offering. Perhaps a change in the title might elicit more participation.

My opinion is that many who have TJL through vol 15 would like to continue to add the annual update to all the journals they own. While I indicated my favorites in your poll, I think you still need to provide a package similar if not identical to the TJL packages previously provided through Galaxie. The TJL prepub is a good start, but I think you just need to complete it.

I have TJL through 15 and my upgrade to the TJL prepub is around $56. As you add the remaining journals to the TJL, please know that the price needs to be commensurate with previous TJL pricing. Yes Logos adds extra value with tagging to the new Journals section in the PG, but it is still priced more as a commodity than a specialty item, as it is a packaged product available in other bible software.

Timing is also important as the TJL packages are currently available in other software, some as a very affordable cross-grade. If a journal has been available in Logos previously, it just needs to be done without hitting prepub goals. I think you have already committed to this in another thread, but as I read the original post above, it is not as clear. Apologies if I redirected the intent of this thread.

Mark Barnes

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/675264#Comment_675264

I voted for Westminster, Tyndale and JETS as top priority from that list, but I agree with John Fidel. I would like to continue what I've begun. It would be a shame if a bunch of journals all stopped around 2010.

Mark Barnes

I don't know if you intended to make the results publicly viewable, but I'm glad that you did!

The three journals I voted for are currently the most popular (great minds!), with Bible and Spade in fourth place.

Phil Gons (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/675264#Comment_675264

My opinion is that many who have TJL through vol 15 would like to continue to add the annual update to all the journals they own. While I indicated my favorites in your poll, I think you still need to provide a package similar if not identical to the TJL packages previously provided through Galaxie. The TJL prepub is a good start, but I think you just need to complete it.

The plan is to add the journals we're missing and keep them current.

I have TJL through 15 and my upgrade to the TJL prepub is around $56. As you add the remaining journals to the TJL, please know that the price needs to be commensurate with previous TJL pricing. Yes Logos adds extra value with tagging to the new Journals section in the PG, but it is still priced more as a commodity than a specialty item, as it is a packaged product available in other bible software.

So you'd like us to increase the price?! TJL was priced at $1 per journal volume (i.e., 50 volumes for $50). Our TJL Upgrade Bundle is currently $.50 per journal volume (i.e., 400 volumes for $200).

Timing is also important as the TJL packages are currently available in other software, some as a very affordable cross-grade. If a journal has been available in Logos previously, it just needs to be done without hitting prepub goals. I think you have already committed to this in another thread, but as I read the original post above, it is not as clear. Apologies if I redirected the intent of this thread.

Yes, we plan to fast track many of the journals in our journal bundles. This thread is specifically about the journals we don't yet offer in our journal bundles so we can prioritize our efforts.

Phil Gons (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/675326#Comment_675326

I don't know if you intended to make the results publicly viewable, but I'm glad that you did!

I did. I figured you would.

Here's the current ranking:

Journal	Score
Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society	1.319
Tyndale Bulletin	1.439
Westminster Theological Journal	1.610
Master's Seminary Journal	1.675
Bible and Spade	1.718
Southern Baptist Journal of Theology	1.762
Christian Apologetics Journal	1.816
Review and Expositor	1.865
Journal of Christian Apologetics	1.872
Emmaus Journal	2.026
Southeastern Theological Review	2.026
Grace Theological Journal	2.026
Trinity Journal	2.077
Grace Journal	2.162
Faith and Mission	2.263
Reformation and Revival	2.289
The Reformed Baptist Theological Review	2.316
Michigan Theological Journal	2.324
Central Bible Quarterly	2.389
Global Journal of Classical Theology	2.432

Beloved Amodeo

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/675362#Comment_675362

For me the most desired of journals are at the top, JETS and Tyndale tailing close behind are Emmaus, Grace Theological and Bible and Spade. Would you please explain your ranking score? How do you tabulate it?

John Goodman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/675362#Comment_675362

Could we get: International Journal of Systematic Theology?

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/10.1111/(ISSN)1468-2400

John Goodman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/675376#Comment_675376

How will this work? Will there be master bundle upgrades?

Phil Gons (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/675375#Comment_675375

Would you please explain your ranking score? How do you tabulate it?

That's just an average of the user votes in the form I created. 1 = high; 2 = medium; 3 = low. The lower the number, the higher the rank.

Phil Gons (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/675376#Comment_675376

Could we get: International Journal of Systematic Theology?

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/10.1111/(ISSN)1468-2400

High on the list.

Phil Gons (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/675377#Comment_675377

How will this work? Will there be master bundle upgrades?

We're still sorting that out, but what I'd like to do is offer a quarterly update to each bundle, adding in new journals we've licensed and updates to existing journals. As we get more journals, we'll probably create some other focused journal bundles as well (e.g., NT, OT, practical theology).

We'll likely retire the old bundles and replace them with new ones. With dynamic pricing, you'll just purchase the new bundle and pay only for the new content. So there's no need for upgrade bundles.

John Goodman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/675422#Comment_675422

I'm hoping we will get a subscription option which is reasonably priced. I'd prefer to know I was automatically getting updates rather than hunting for them the whole time.

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/676408#Comment_676408

I'm hoping we will get a subscription option which is reasonably priced. I'd prefer to know I was automatically getting updates rather than hunting for them the whole time.

Good idea. [Y]

Mark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/675420#Comment_675420

Would you please explain your ranking score? How do you tabulate it?

That's just an average of the user votes in the form I created. 1 = high; 2 = medium; 3 = low. The lower the number, the higher the rank.

Well I am glad to hear this. The chart at first confused me...

Phil Gons (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/676408#Comment_676408

I'm hoping we will get a subscription option which is reasonably priced. I'd prefer to know I was automatically getting updates rather than hunting for them the whole time.

Journals make great content to deliver via a subscription. It's something we've been thinking about for a while.

Would you want Netflix-style where you're paying for access which stops as soon as your payments do? (This model allows for a more dynamic, expanding pool of content that doesn't assign a cost to each individual piece of content.)

Or would you want Bible-Study-Magazine-style where you're paying for permanent ownership overtime with each new piece of content? (This is typically a print model with a more fixed pool of content where the price you pay directly corresponds to the amount of content you're getting.) You could think of this as an open-ended payment plan without the fee.

The fundamental question is how important it is that you own and have permanent access to the content, even if your payments stop.

Mark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/676501#Comment_676501

I prefer the permanent access. I would think Faithlife should offer both options since people have different needs. Those in seminary may need immediate access while others may wish them to be available when needed over the course of life.

Bobby Terhune

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/676503#Comment_676503

I absolutely only want permanent access, but I think you probably need to offer both options.

John Goodman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/676501#Comment_676501

I would not want the netflix style membership.

I would be looking to have my library very current and up to date with latest journal releases and permanently owned. I would hope that by committing to the subscription I get a very reasonable price - even better than prepub because I am subscribing not just pre-ordering so you get more predictable income.

Thanks for engaging with all our feedback.

SineNomine

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/676501#Comment_676501

The fundamental question is how important it is that you own and have permanent access to the content, even if your payments stop.

Very.

Renting only makes sense to me a a customer when what I'm renting costs too much for me to buy and I somehow need it now.