The Power of User-Editable Series Names

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/520607#Comment_520607

Great suggestion!

Truly, Doc! *smile* Psalm 29:11

Edit: BTW, have you figured out any positive or negative consequences of using the commentary parallel resources with a self-named and self-assembled series?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/520826#Comment_520826

Edit: BTW, have you figured out any positive or negative consequences of using the commentary parallel resources with a self-named and self-assembled series?

Editing a series for a resource takes it out of the normal series. So you wouldn't be able to jump from, say, WBC Genesis to WBC Revelation as you normally do by moving from Genesis to Revelation in your linked Bible (assuming you changed the series for either WBC Genesis or WBC Revelation). If you don't care about such things, there is no downside. For Doc's use (and many others) a favorite commentaries series when one doesn't care about a set series is now possible to create. Doc's idea of creating three such series to enable three linked options is a clever one.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/520826#Comment_520826

BTW, have you figured out any positive or negative consequences of using the commentary parallel resources with a self-named and self-assembled series?

Mark said it better than I can. The only downside is if you use commentaries in their 'factory' series. I don't, at least not normally.

Another advantage is using certain monographs like a commentary, as long as they are versified. I have Piper's book on Romans 9 as a volume in my #3 Romans commentary slot. Since I have two other commentaries on the full book of Romans, I don't miss any, and I get a LOT of commentary on chapter 9.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/520844#Comment_520844

is a clever one.

Thanks, Mark! I appreciate the kind words.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/520847#Comment_520847

Mark and Doc! *smile* Thanks so much to the both of you! I appreciate the ideas very much as I continue to seek to study God's Word thoroughly and effectively! Peace!

Bohuslav Wojnar

Very interesting. I have to investigate it more. So far I have been using ratings to place the top commentaries for the given Bible book (5 stars = the best commentary for the book etc.) Works well in the Passage Guide.

Your suggestion looks very promising, although I don't want to loose the original "factory" connection of the commentary series.

Thank you and Mark for a great information. [Y]

BillS

Thanks for a great idea / suggestion!

Jack Caviness

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/520862#Comment_520862

Your suggestion looks very promising, although I don't want to loose the original "factory" connection of the commentary series.

So far, I'm not convinced that I want to lose these either, but it does look like a very good procedure for those who don't care about "factor" series connections.

Donnie Hale

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/520844#Comment_520844

I know how to use the new "set series" functionality. But I don't understand what I'd have to do after that to achieve the functionality that's described in this thread. If I had hit every book in the Bible in a Logos session, would I then have 66*3 (ESV) commentary panes open in my layout? Also, is there something that limits it to a favorite 3? Could it be a favorite 5?

Thanks,

Donnie

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/520901#Comment_520901

Could it be a favorite 5?

What Doc did was create a special series loading one of his favorite commentaries from each book of the Bible in that series. That way when the Bible link moves to a new book, that series moves to the favorite commentary he'd chosen and put in the series.

By creating three such series with different favorites in each one he can open accomplish what he spoke about. He has one book from each series open in a pane linked to his Bible. Now all three will move at the same time to the new Bible book giving him quick access to his top three commentaries.

You could do this for as many commentaries as you want. You only place one commentary for each book of the Bible in the series. Just open a pane with a book from each series for as many series as you create and link them together.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/520901#Comment_520901

Going back to what Mark said (the downside), I still think the simple solution is a program rule, that where no book is in the factory series (book was re-series'd), default to the factory series ID, rather than just 'stop' and look dumb.

Again, I don't think they press the edge of common sense. My guess is they want to keep as much code as possible in SQL queries.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/520905#Comment_520905

Thanks, Mark! *smile* Peace!

What I've decided to do (finally! -- *smile* ) for myself is late last night and early this morning creating a special collection of my truly favourite commentaries and enabling the showing of parallel resources in this collection. That way I can very, very quickly move from one commentary to another using the arrow buttons and avoid using up precious real estate on the monitor. I think it will work for me very well indeed!

The only negative is that I need to be sure that parallel resources is checked for the resources I want to use ... that requires a wee bit of thinking, but old minds can handle that, eh???

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/520915#Comment_520915

Milford, that is old-school! [;)] I recall when we were fighting to have parallel resource control restored in Logos 4.

It definitely works just as you say and you only need to build a collection. Howsomever you can't link a commentary in this collection to the Bible so that when you jump to another Bible book you'd have a commentary in this collection show up. The resources are linked in parallel but not serial form.

You could combine the two by adding a whole Bible commentary series (Tyndale??) to the collection but that would still require extra steps to get what Doc has which is a quick jump to his open Bible book.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/520920#Comment_520920

Milford, this veering off-topic, but one thing I did with my collection of 'Recommended Commentaries' is create a one item Passage Guide which I named Top Commentaries. The one item in the Guide is my collection of Recommended Commentaries. I can right click on a passage and see Top Commentaries as a choice if I use the 'Reference' tab in the right click menu. A moment or two later I get a link to all my commentaries in that collection for that Bible book. Opening one I can then use the left and right arrows to navigate between them if I choose to do so.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/520922#Comment_520922

Peace, Richard!

*smile*

Well, back to the drawing board, eh? Situation is Normal, All Fouled Up!

I cannot get my newly created collection to show in Parallel Resources ...

Later today as I have time, I will research it ........ just looked at the Wiki, but can't find the reason there ...

But Mousie, thou art no thy lane,
In proving foresight may be vain:
The best-laid schemes o' mice an' men
Gang aft agley,
An' lea'e us nought but grief an' pain,
For promis'd joy!

Martin Grainger Dean

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/520936#Comment_520936

Nice find Doc [Y]. Thanks.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/520922#Comment_520922

Milford, this veering off-topic, but one thing I did with my collection of 'Recommended Commentaries' is create a one item Passage Guide which I named Top Commentaries. The one item in the Guide is my collection of Recommended Commentaries. I can right click on a passage and see Top Commentaries as a choice if I use the 'Reference' tab in the right click menu. A moment or two later I get a link to all my commentaries in that collection for that Bible book. Opening one I can then use the left and right arrows to navigate between them if I choose to do so.

Thanks, Mark! That also is very clever! It's so nice that Logos 5 is giving us so very many ways to study -- so many options! -- depending upon our individual likes and methods of engaging .... I'm pleased to study your thoughts and ideas .... and truly appreciate your sharing ideas ......

Donnie Hale

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/520922#Comment_520922

There are some helpful suggestions in this thread. Trying to figure which of them, with or without adaptation, apply to the way I tend to work in L5. Many thanks.

Donnie

Bohuslav Wojnar

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/520922#Comment_520922

Milford, this veering off-topic, but one thing I did with my collection of 'Recommended Commentaries' is create a one item Passage Guide which I named Top Commentaries. The one item in the Guide is my collection of Recommended Commentaries. I can right click on a passage and see Top Commentaries as a choice if I use the 'Reference' tab in the right click menu. A moment or two later I get a link to all my commentaries in that collection for that Bible book. Opening one I can then use the left and right arrows to navigate between them if I choose to do so.

That's exactly what I use. I have a special Passage Guide template and first I see my Best Commentaries Collection and then I also have all commentaries entry, just in case. It works very well.

Jack Caviness

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/520922#Comment_520922

one thing I did with my collection of 'Recommended Commentaries' is create a one item Passage Guide which I named Top Commentaries. The one item in the Guide is my collection of Recommended Commentaries.

Created several collections of commentaries based on my rating: Commentaries Primary = type:Commentary myrating:5. Then, Secondary, Tertiary. Used tags to create collection Background, Historical, etc. Put them all into one edition of the Passage Guide.

However, Doc's suggestion merits further investigation.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/520936#Comment_520936

I cannot get my newly created collection to show in Parallel Resources ...

It won't show until you select a passage in Mark!

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/521091#Comment_521091

Hey, Dave! Thank you! *smile* Incredible! Amazing! You are correct, of course!

Now I have to figure out exactly what's happening .... if I can! Very grateful!

Psalm 29:11

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/520862#Comment_520862

Your suggestion looks very promising, although I don't want to loose the original "factory" connection of the commentary series.

You don't have to lose them. Once the user changes the series name, a button will appear in the series title box to 'Clear User Series'. If you click that button, the original series title will reappear. So there's no risk and no need to write down the series titles on a notecard.

[Note: You only see the 'Clear User Series' button if you select *more than one* resource in your custom series. You don't see the button if you only select one resource. I don't know why. But you can still edit a single resource and manually type the series title if needed.]

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/521378#Comment_521378

Your suggestion looks very promising, although I don't want to loose the original "factory" connection of the commentary series.

You don't have to lose them. Once the user changes the series name, a button will appear in the series title box to 'Clear User Series'. If you click that button, the original series title will reappear.

True, but you can't have it be in two series at once. You'd have to keep editing the series to move back and forth between using it as part of your user-created series vs. the "factory" series.

It would be nice if there were some mechanism like the Parallel resource sets dropdown, where you could select which series was active. But it might get complicated. If you've got a WBC volume open which is part of your Favorite Commentaries series as well, and you make "Favorite Commentaries" the active series instead of WBC, then jump to a different book of the Bible, you might end up in a commentary that is from another commentary series, say NICOT. Now you change the active series to NICOT and jump to a different book which is not in your "Favorite Commentaries" series. Now you are very far from where you started, and there's no easy way to get back to a "Favorite Commentaries" book. I don't know of a nice UI solution to this.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/521379#Comment_521379

It would be nice if there were some mechanism like the Parallel resource sets dropdown, where you could select which series was active. But it might get complicated.

We had it in Libronix and it was complicated; one of the reasons Logos was reluctant to even provide (user) Parallel resource sets. Logos has chosen to use existing "sets" in Logos 4/5 rather than the independent sets used in Libronix i.e Collections for Parallel resource sets and resource Series for Serial sets. The Series implementation is not without risk, but Logos has minimised that and this discussion shows that you don't have to modify Logos' series to get a set of "favourites".

One thing to remember when a Series is missing a bible book is that Prioritization will determine which other Series/resource fills that gap. Very useful in Passage Guide when you use several Commentaries sections e.g. link your bible to a stripped down PG with only Commentaries sections.

Bohuslav Wojnar

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/521400#Comment_521400

Very useful in Passage Guide when you use several Commentaries sections e.g. link your bible to a stripped down PG with only Commentaries sections.

...and that seems the best solution to me. Thank you Dave.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/521379#Comment_521379

you can't have it be in two series at once.

That's a good point, Rosie, and one which should be considered before changing the series name. But as I said earlier, I have no use at all for the original series name for my commentary sets...they are no more related than apples and bicycles to me. However, I can see where a series might be important if one uses some rather specialized commentaries or has a particular favorite author that one likes to consult consistently (like MacArthur, etc.). But remember, unless you have some reason to put these in multiple sets, you can make your own specialized set as well.

This works well for me, and I think a lot of folks might find it useful, but it certainly isn't for everybody. Each user should caveat emptor.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/693673#Comment_693673

Since I have favorites from different series, and don't use any one series exclusively, the ability to make my own series means I have a custom commentary set.

I've been using this system for some time now.

But on occasion, and rarely, a commentary with the series altered to match one of my sets simply won't come up when the bible to which it is linked goes to that book of the Scriptures.

Any idea why?

My latest problem book is the Cooper NAC Ezekiel commentary. It won't open with the series to which I have it set.

Dave Hooton

My latest problem book is the Cooper NAC Ezekiel commentary. It won't open with the series to which I have it set.

Your series may have another commentary on Ezekiel! Prioritizing the NAC volume above the other may fix that.