Future Prefect Tense
Hey guy's what up, I am looking for this tense in the bible "Future Prefect" I did the visual filter and nothing came up. Please Help.
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It does not come up. For some reason Logos has tagged the Future Perfects as Future Middle Indicatives in Matt 16:19 (2), 18:18 (2), Luke 12:52, and Heb. 2:13, the four verses Burton cites as containing Future Perfects.
The NASB95 notes in the first four instances (those in Matthew) that these are future perfect passives:
I hovered over note 1 to get the popup shown. There are no notes like this for the references in Luke or Hebrews.
Robertson says:
The future perfect was always a very rare tense with only two active forms of any frequency, ἑστήξω and τεθνήξω. The middle and passive could make a better showing. In Heb. 8:11 εἰδήσουσιν is probably future active (from LXX),4 and in Lu. 19:40 some MSS., but not אBL (rejected by W. H.), give κεκράξονται (cf. LXX). In Heb. 2:13 (another quotation from the LXX) we have the periphrastic form ἔσομαι πεποιθώς. The future perfect passive occurs in the N. T. only in the periphrastic form in such examples as ἔσται δεδεμένον (Mt. 16:19), ἔσται λελυμένα (Mt. 18:18), ἔσονται διαμεμερισμένοι (Lu. 12:52).
A. T. Robertson, A Grammar of the Greek New Testament in the Light of Historical Research (Logos Bible Software, 1919), 361.Perhaps someone here knows why the tagging was done this way. Perhaps it is an oversight or mistake.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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I get only one occurrence. Are you sure you should find more?
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Actually I shall answer my own question. In the NT the only Future Perfects are periphrastic constructions of a future form of the word εἰμί with a perfect participle:
future perfect tense. n. A periphrastic construction that contains a future form of εἰμί plus a perfect participle, which denotes completed action in the future. See Matthew 16:19; 18:18; Hebrews 2:13.
Matthew S. DeMoss, Pocket Dictionary for the Study of New Testament Greek (Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press, 2001), 58.So this explains the morphological coding which is correct. There are no Future Perfect verbs in the NT, only Future Perfect constructions which cannot be detected through a morphological search of verbs themselves.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Hmmm... there's got to be a joke in here somewhere. How many Mar... Smith's does it take to answer a question on the future pertect?
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
Hmmm... there's got to be a joke in here somewhere. How many Mar... Smith's does it take to answer a question on the future pertect?
One more and we can say "Three will have done it."
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Mark Smith said:
a future form of the word εἰμί with a perfect participle
I've played around with searching for this construction. Ye problem is that in some verses there is a future of εἰμί and a perfect participle but they are clearly not a Future Perfect construction. So one cannot just look for both forms in a verse. Using WITHIN 1 WORD gets three of the passages but not the fourth:
In the fourth case (Luke 12:52) the two components come at the beginning and end of a clause. So the way to discover all the cases is to look for both constructions within the same clause. Right now I will leave that task up to someone who is more mentally alert than I am at this hour in the GMT-5 time zone.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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