Bug?: Help Manuals in Library

The Logos Help and Verbum Help files are now indexed and counted as resources of type Manual in Library. But they are not included in searches for title:, type: .. that is until I changed a few things. The Library filters worked after I tagged and rated them, and after finding that 'type:manual' worked in Search as a temporary collection!

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MJ. Smith

I picked them up immediately after reading this. But I've been had! There is one entry in Logos that is not in Verbum for not good reason. Discrimination. Unfair ..... or maybe a wee error that doesn't matter as I have both? [:D] {language intended for Rosie's amusement}

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/698503#Comment_698503

Search Fields is in both! If you order by Ranked, that result is the last one.

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/698512#Comment_698512

The reference box is not working. No matter what I type, in the reference box it does not work.

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/698518#Comment_698518

The reference box is not working

Which reference box do you mean?

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/698521#Comment_698521

The reference box next to the visual filter.

Fr Devin Roza

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/698518#Comment_698518

[Y] A good step forward - so now we have a 78 page very basic manual to start with.

Some things are in fact in the Logos Help file that aren't yet in the Verbum help file, for example, the Interactives, Inline Search, Factbook, Ask the Author, Groups Tool, and other Verbum 6 features. Basically it looks like the Verbum 6 Help File is actually the Verbum 5 Help File. This is also the case from the Help Menu. Ouch.

As well as the missing Verbum manual book icon.

In my install, neither the Logos nor the Verbum manual have the reference box.

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/698523#Comment_698523

The reference box next to the visual filter.

I believe this is the Personal Book provided by Denise - https://community.logos.com/forums/t/99153.aspx - as opposed to the manual provided by Logos.

Can you check if this is the case?

Lynden O. Williams

Thanks Graham. What is the name of the Logos Help File?

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/698532#Comment_698532

I was using the stable version of the software. I see it now in the beta.

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/698532#Comment_698532

Thanks Graham. What is the name of the Logos Help File?

It's called "Logos Help"

Don Awalt

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/698536#Comment_698536

Is it possible these help manuals have only been pushed out to MVPs - everyone on this thread up to now is an MVP/starred person, I have done Update Resources, restarted, Update Resources and the help files are not there:

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/698542#Comment_698542

I guess it's possible but, just to check, are you running the beta or stable release?

Don Awalt

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/698548#Comment_698548

I am on the Windows version, 6.1 RC 1.

Ben

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/698549#Comment_698549

I'm on the latest Mac beta, and don't see it.

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/698542#Comment_698542

The Help manuals should be present for everyone (in 6.1 RC 1). As Dave Hooton stated in the first post, they probably won't show up in a search for "type:manual" until the Library Catalog Index is rebuilt. You can force this to happen by adding a tag, changing a rating, etc.

Rich DeRuiter

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/698585#Comment_698585

The Help manuals should be present for everyone (in 6.1 RC 1). As Dave Hooton stated in the first post, they probably won't show up in a search for "type:manual" until the Library Catalog Index is rebuilt. You can force this to happen by adding a tag, changing a rating, etc.

I didn't see it until I did an update resources.

Louis St. Hilaire

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/698524#Comment_698524

Some things are in fact in the Logos Help file that aren't yet in the Verbum help file

As well as the missing Verbum manual book icon.

We're aware of and are working on both of these issues.

Don Awalt

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/698585#Comment_698585

they probably won't show up in a search for "type:manual" until the Library Catalog Index is rebuilt. You can force this to happen by adding a tag, changing a rating, etc.

I see them now, thanks Bradley.

Rich DeRuiter

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/698620#Comment_698620

The Help manuals should be present for everyone (in 6.1 RC 1). As Dave Hooton stated in the first post, they probably won't show up in a search for "type:manual" until the Library Catalog Index is rebuilt. You can force this to happen by adding a tag, changing a rating, etc.

I didn't see it until I did an update resources.

Yes, responding to myself.

I notice that the date on my help manual is October 31, 2014 Is that right?

Jack Caviness

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/698585#Comment_698585

they probably won't show up in a search for "type:manual" until the Library Catalog Index is rebuilt. You can force this to happen by adding a tag, changing a rating, etc.

Now, I see

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/698710#Comment_698710

I notice that the date on my help manual is October 31, 2014 Is that right?

It sounds right; it was last updated right before the launch of Logos 6. It has always been on your computer (powering the Help panel); 6.1 just makes it visible in the Library (and searchable). Thus, the "old" last-updated date is correct.

That's also why running "update resources" is likely to have little effect, because the resource is already present. (Much more likely is that some background process coincidentally updated the Library catalog at the same time, causing the metadata to be reindexed.)