Therefore since I can't depend on the accuracy of a precise search I need a fuzzy search!!!
I support this idea, although I am not sure what you mean with the fuzzy search in this case. I assume it is some type of intelligent wildcard (you, thou, ...) (color, colour, ...) and not something to do with the fuzzy logic?
(Well, just one more suggestion came into my mind, to Logos to add their headache: the user could hum a melody and the computer finds the correct hymn)
the user could hum a melody and the computer finds the correct hymn
There is software that does that. http://www.midomi.com/
soundhound, shazam, trackid, soundsearch for google play... just to name a few.
I finally have my copy of Julian's Dictionary of Hymnology.I have discovered that the hymns are not linked to their texts in Watts, et. al.
That is unfortunate!
Therefore, I need to do my own linking which thanks to L6 improvements is possible.
Wow, I can't imagine the time and dedication that would take, even if you had fuzzy search available! And this is the sort of thing Faithlife should be doing. Aren't you worried that you'd get halfway done with that monumental task only to find out they'd decided to ship an update of the Dictionary of Hymnology with better tagging included?
I've indexed hundreds of hymnals so, yes, I know what I'm getting into. However, I figure it like washing the car to make it rain. If I don't get started, Faithlife won't do it [;)] Seriously I do have a word into a Faithlife employee to see if they are apt to do it in the near term.
I've indexed hundreds of hymnals so, yes, I know what I'm getting into.
Oh wow, could I hire you to index Hymnal: A Worship Book (the hymnal my church uses, along with many other Mennonite churches in the US and Canada) and put its contents up on hymnary.org? I volunteered to do it a long time ago and have never gotten around to it. Too busy. But I would still love to see it up there. It's an important hymnal and a major lacuna in their collection. I could get you a copy of the book if you're interested.
However, I figure it like washing the car to make it rain. If I don't get started, Faithlife won't do it
Ha! You're right. That worked for me doing Martyr's Mirror. I got through about 1/8 of that massive 1000+ page book turning it into a PB when they announced it in pre-pub. The collection it's in still has a long way to go, though, so I probably should keep chipping away at my PB.
On the hymnal ask me again in about 8 months ...
I'll admit, I've tried to 'divine' the 'mind of Logos' over the years. In some cases, you can see they're building the base for later 'frosting'. And in others, they're 'looking for Mr Goodbar' .... sales.
But their search engine remains a mystery. Clearly speed (indexing), stuff (broad groupings), converted stuff (topics, etc), and fancy stuff (languages, etc).
But the basic concept is still the same as their early days (and/or and hints of not), with shades of sophistication in the older Libronix fuzzy search.
My impression is they're being passed by conceptually by very basic mobile apps.
We're upgrading our 'nutrition' so I found an app that searches for why you're having a problem with XYZ. Although the app is nutrition vs XYZ's (many to many), you can put in just about anything totally unrelated to food, habits, etc. and it does a fairly decent combinatorial analysis and presents the results very logically (complete with warnings about stupidity).
I always feel it's unfortunate for the Logosian Biblical researchers, hymnologists (you), and so forth. Still typing-in complex formulas, exacting text, and multiple combinations that could so easily be handled by algorythms available since the late 1980s. And likely with expertise from the local community college, no less. I'd give good odds, there's Logos staff that would love to deliver better results then 10,522 search hits with very poor user delivery.
After some curious problems with Faithlife shipping which were graciously worked out, I finally have my copy of Julian's Dictionary of Hymnology. I have discovered that the hymns are not linked to their texts in Watts, et. al. Therefore, I need to do my own linking which thanks to L6 improvements is possible. So I need to search for hymn via title and/or first line which will at times have minor variations in text - archaic spelling or pronouns changed etc. Therefore since I can't depend on the accuracy of a precise search I need a fuzzy search!!!
Fuzzy search is a good idea, but I'd be curious to know precisely how fuzzy it would be. Would it just look for anarchonistic spellings or something else?
Also, once you've completed your task (were you so minded), is there any way you could sell/give your linking back to Logos, reducing the need for everyone to have to link their own products?
Fuzzy search is a good idea, but I'd be curious to know precisely how fuzzy it would be.
Fuzzy Wuzzy was a bear, Fuzzy Wuzzy had no hair, Fuzzy Wuzzy wasn't fuzzy, was he?
Fuzzy search is a good idea, but I'd be curious to know precisely how fuzzy it would be. Fuzzy Wuzzy was a bear, Fuzzy Wuzzy had no hair, Fuzzy Wuzzy wasn't fuzzy, was he?
Of course Fuzzy Wuzzy had no hair. The previous line very clearly stated that Fuzzy Wuzzy was a bear and not a human. Assuming Fuzzy Wuzzy was a bear, we can infer that he'd have had fur and not hair. Therefore the suggestion that Fuzzy Wuzzy wasn't Fuzzy on the basis of a lack of hair is conjecture.
I was really tempted to try Fuzzy Wuzzy but here's an example from Libby. Scan about half way down to see how it begins recombining words, etc and showing the percent match.
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"Fuzzy-Wuzzies" was a name given to an east African group the British encountered.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadendoa
I tried fuzzy wuzzy on the library. Zippo. However the phrase 'had no hair' was interesting, as the logic substitutes words (heir for hair, head for hair, etc). Also, a fuzzy wuzzy search is fairly quick (not much to work with) while the no hair search was quite slow (many substitutions).
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