http://finance.yahoo.com/news/isis-burns-8000-rare-books-030900856.html
Now if it was all in Logos all you would need would be a quick download, some indexing and no harm done.
This is a tragedy. Much as I love books, though, it pales in comparison to what they're doing to people.
If ISIS controlled Paris, they would burn down the Louvre.
A tragedy but not surprising since this is ISIS we are dealing with and they burn people alive.
Truly a group of people filled with hatred.
Barbarians in the truest sense...
-dan
Indeed.
Well, someone has been scoping out high-profile landmarks in Paris, the Eiffel Tower, the Bastille, Place de la Concorde, Les Invalides, and the U.S. Embassy, with five simultaneous drones, so the security forces are taking measures to try to find out who is behind it. If it's ISIS, or Al-Qaeda or whoever was behind the Charlie Hebdo attack, you can bet they'll want to burn down the Louvre. And kill more people.
Barbarians in the truest sense... ISIS vow to 'throw homosexuals off of Rome's leaning tower ... -dan
How can you take anyone seriously that refers to the leaning tower of Pizza
ISIS vow to 'throw homosexuals off of Rome's leaning tower ...
Hah! They don't even know the leaning tower of Pisa is not in Rome, but Pisa, and they spelled it "pizza". Funny as it may be to mock their ignorance, their horrors are real, and the West must take their threats very seriously.
Very very true Rosie. If we think of them as a bunch of ignorant hoodlums we are making a very big mistake. They include some very bright & educated people by any one's standards.
Also, they might have been mocking the Leaning Tower of Pisa by calling it "pizza" -- they might know very well what they were saying. They have absolutely no respect for the rest of the world's cultural values, history, art, architecture, etc. But they do know how to run oil wells and mount tech-savvy media recruitment campaigns, etc. And many of them now have been educated in the West, as they've somehow managed to jump a barrier in their appeal to young idealistic Muslim converts from Europe and North America. Mind-boggling how they did that, but it's really terrifying what could come of it.
Of course they can't have ultimate victory under God's eyes, but they can do a terrible amount of damage in the meantime. Who knows? We might be looking at a world largely taken over by repressive Islamic extremism in a few years. Even though they are tiny in comparison to the armies of the West, minorities have sometimes developed enough power to rule majorities. Their strategies are something we have no experience facing before.
Lord, preserve us, and always keep us at least one step ahead of the enemy bent on wiping your children off the face of the earth. And may we do so with perseverance and winsome grace so that some of them might repent and come to know you.
Sorry... I got carried away. This has nothing to do with Logos, but I figure it's completely non-controversial among us all here. Unfortunately there is absolutely no mention of ISIS in any of my Logos resources (only the Egyptian goddess by that name). It's too new. So I can't bring this back around to a Logos conversation. Oh well. Probably best we leave this and/or move it over to ChristianDiscourse.com. I bet there are already threads over there about Islamic extremism and ISIS.
This has nothing to do with Logos,
I may disagree - the Logos offline functionality should continue in the future releases - just in case!
Oh heaven forbid if we burned 8000 Qurans. They'd have a flipping cow over that. Heck they went ballistic when a preacher shoved a Quran down the toilet.
Bunch of hypocrites they are.
Not sure why you think they are hypocrites. Based on my understanding of what the fundamentals of Islamic thought say - they are consistent; if all rather horrible.
They have "standards" of behaviour - they just aren't ours - and of course we would contend they are also wrong - in fact very wrong.
Shalom
I think the claim of "hypocrisy" comes from the fact that they claim to be doing the will of "Allah, the compassionate, the merciful." Their actions would seem to suggest that whatever it is that they're actually following, it's neither compassionate nor merciful. That tension is what leads to the charge of hypocrisy.
Only that this is our definition of "compassionate", and "merciful" - not theirs.
I don't see them as hypocritical - just wrong and highly misguided. They are being consistent with their beliefs. But I do understand what you mean.
I would not see Allah as compassionate or merciful - certainly based on the actions of his followers. - ah.. I can hear a "fatwa" coming my way!
Nevertheless I can see justifiable similar criticism of church history through the years. However these actions were less defendable from biblical theology.
During the reformation, the church would burn the books and letters of those they did not agree with. Not in all cases but much was destroyed in the name of orthodoxy that may have had value for us today.(Calvinists vs Arminians) Even the church fathers in the first few centuries did the same to those considered unorthodox. What a shame for anyone to burn books under any name. Isis is terrible but so was the church at certain times. Thousands of manuscripts lost in Alexandria, Egypt and thousands lost because of Hitler. Humans are bent on their own destruction.
...if we burned...
Some scholars think that the Quran is based on a Syrian christian lectionary that was translated to Arabic.
Therefore we would be double stupid to burn it.
Only that this is our definition of "compassionate", and "merciful" - not theirs. I don't see them as hypocritical - just wrong and highly misguided. They are being consistent with their beliefs. But I do understand what you mean. I would not see Allah as compassionate or merciful - certainly based on the actions of his followers. - ah.. I can hear a "fatwa" coming my way! Nevertheless I can see justifiable similar criticism of church history through the years. However these actions were less defendable from biblical theology.
I don't doubt that many, if not most, ISIS adherents are fully bought into the ideology. From what I've read, though, it does not appear to be driven by a variant understanding of compassion and mercy (e.g., "tough love" versus "coddling"). If anything, it's more a matter of excluding outsiders from the circle of people to whom compassion and mercy are due. That's a tendency that comes naturally to people, and we can find many historical examples. Nonetheless, there are some ideologies that are so corrosive and evil that they shock the conscience of the world - and I believe this to be one them.
Not sure why you think they are hypocrites. Based on my understanding of what the fundamentals of Islamic thought say - they are consistent; if all rather horrible. They have "standards" of behaviour - they just aren't ours - and of course we would contend they are also wrong - in fact very wrong. Shalom
It's hypocrisy because if someone does something to their sacred book they get into an uproar to the point of threats and violence. But they have no qualms about burning or desecrating Bibles and/or other Christian books.
