Windows Phone 8 App
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We are still evaluating the market share of Windows Phone 8 before committing (significant) resources to developing an app for it.
See Bob's post from a couple of months ago for additional info: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/63184/447539.aspx#447539
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How is the evaluation looking?0
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We're not currently developing a Windows Phone app, but are still watching changes in its market share.
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Well, I hope you don't watch for too much longer and start developing soon. [:D]
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If you raise your head and look around the World you will see WP is gaining momentum. Please start developing now so you wont will be to late to the table. Im using some of you compettitors instead since its impossible for me to use your software on my Nokia Lumia 920 ...
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Grainger,
Thanks for responding as always.
I will wait patiently for any development you may create for the windows phone 8 environment or the tablet environment. I know it cost a lot of money to put your programmers on a project this size and then to offer the product to us for free! So as long as it is free, I will wait for your decision to make or not make the apps. Again, thank you.
Chris
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Me too! Me Too!
My Nokia Lumia 820 waits longingly!
Peter
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Me too! Me Too!
My Nokia Lumia 820 waits longingly!
Peter
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I am in the same situation. Time to do something about it Logos [:)]
Bohuslav
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Me too [:D] Waiting in anticipation... [;)]
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If you raise your head and look around the World you will see WP is gaining momentum.
I don't want to rain on your parade, but you might like to know that the first public beta of the Android app wasn't released until July 2011. At that point Android had roughly a 38% market share in the US. Windows Phone currently has 5.6%
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How long would it take to convert the existing apps (Android or even the Windows RT app) to Windows Phone 8?
That was one thing I was looking for when I decided to switch to Windows Phone 8. I found the Logos app in the Windows RT store and thought it was available for all Windows mobile platforms. :-/
OK even though on the global market Windows Phone is small compared to iPhone and Android, but maybe you can do a survey of paid Logos users? I don't know.
Waiting diligently!
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Would it be possible to test the waters with a simple starter app - such as a very basic app that can pull in your notes and let you edit them? That would be a great light-weight app that should be quick to produce. I'd find it a godsend for recording quotes, and Logos could see the engagement of the Windows Phone user base. There's more than raw market share to measure profit potential.0
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If you raise your head and look around the World you will see WP is gaining momentum.
I don't want to rain on your parade, but you might like to know that the first public beta of the Android app wasn't released until July 2011. At that point Android had roughly a 38% market share in the US. Windows Phone currently has 5.6%
It's true, but...
"Android up 13%, iOS down 7%, BlackBerry down 81% … and Windows Phone up a massive 52%"
Bohuslav
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That is GREAT news. I hope this trend continues and if it does, perhaps Logos will start heavier production on the Win 8 platform next year
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I understand that WP8 doesn't have a huge market share, but I just want to add one more vote to the hat of getting a WP8 app rolling sooner rather than later. My wife and myself just moved away from iPhones to Windows and we like them, but miss the Logos app and the ability to get signals from proclaim. I am not a developer, but am willing to help test in any way I can.
Thanks,
Andy E.0 -
I have just made the leap from an old Nokia feature phone to a new Nokia Lumia 520 and I now find myself in the same situation as the rest of the post on this thread. Anything I can do to help it along I will.
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Dear Logos,
I understand the need to deploy resources wisely, but we can't we at least have highlighting and reading plans? I'm not asking for the split screen or the passage guide, or the full ipad feature set (yet), but if you could at least give us some of the basics? You're killing me
WIndows isn't going anywhere and MS isn't going to just all of a sudden just stop selling version 8.
Thanks,
Jim
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stop selling version 8.
That is an issue though.. When Windows decides to make something new and not have apps backward compatible there is an issue. It would;t surprise me if version 8 was not long lived. On iOS and Android phone apps can exist in the same universe as tablet apps (it is always nicer if they are optimized to the Pad size but not needed). MS has released a tablet and phone that in my understanding (I could be wrong) can not share apps. MS will sooner or later realize this is an major fault for wider adoption. Historically they have not allowed for upgrading OS to the new version. So if MS has hope to gain a significant share in mobile devices a major shift may be in the works. Logos has invested some energy into making a Surface RT app, the surface has been a big disappointment so far from all sales reports. The phones maybe doing better but until MS gets itself into the range of 5% I would suspect it is hard to justify development in Logos mind. I honestly wish Logos could support everyone, for the smaller OS markets it might be best to get Logos to focus on making Biblia.com better.
-Dan
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Version 8 is an operating system in a long string of Microsoft OSes that have always had an above-industry backwards compatibility. Future versions will build on Windows 8. Apple has an operating system for phones and tablets and a separate OS for Macs (MacOS). Google has Android (phones and tablets) and Chrome, so it's not like everything's the same there, either. With Windows Phone 8, Microsoft has brought together Windows Phone and Windows development to where the APIs are similar but not yet identical. Rome wasn't built in a day. Trust me, they'd much rather have them write once, run anywhere. That's not a shift, it's an evolution, and all three are likely moving towards an integrated app store across their operating systems.
Logos did not make a Surface RT app. They made a WinRT app. Surface RT is a particular computer. A WinRT app is a type of application that can run on Windows RT devices, such as the Surface RT, as well as on Windows 8 devices, such as the Surface Pro, or any desktop with Windows 8 on it. I can't speak for Logos, but in the past, they said that programming languages were an issue (I believe they said their code base was largely C/C++), and if I remember correctly, both Windows Phone 8 and WinRT can be written against using C++ ( http://www.infoq.com/news/2011/09/Design-Details-Windows-Runtime ). While there still needs to be a business case, developing for Windows Phone and WinRT should be much easier now.
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Thank you for the clarifications on my comments, I fully admit I don't know much about the mobile class of Windows 8 products, just that the surface RT has had less than a favourable reception overall.
-dan
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I was going to buy a Nokia Windows Phone....but it looks like no Logos app.
Heavy sigh.
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surface RT has had less than a favourable reception overall.
It is true, however the reason IMHO is the availability of Surface Pro with full Windows support. It shouldn't be taken as a sign of the less potential of Windows Phone 8 platform which is going to grow IMHO even Windows RT platform would not exist and all Windows tablets would be running full Windows 8. But that's just my understanding of the situation.
P.S. My Nokia Lumia 820 is wonderful mobile device and also is waiting Logos to come to that platform [:)]
Bohuslav
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I switched from Windows Phone to Android only because I wanted to use Logos on my mobile device. I would switch back to Windows Phone in a heartbeat if it had the app. Just saying.
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Recently switched from an iPhone 4 to the Nokia Lumia 1020, primarily for the camera (we're 6 months in with our first child). I've been using biblia.com on the phone. I seem to have access to most of my Logos library, but it is just a mobile internet site with limited reading and search functionality. I'm giving Laridian's PocketBible Bible Study App a try. Not keen to have duplicate electronic libraries, but I need something robust on the phone, since just like the best camera is "the one you have with you", the best Bible is the one you have with you.
BTW, the camera on the 1020 is outstanding; easily as good or better than a high quality point and shoot (and much more pocketable).
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The last post on this thread is August 5, 2013. I thought I would add an update and vote for Logos to port to Windows Phone 8. Is there anyone out there who may know if Logos is monitoring Microsoft's efforts to merge the code base of Windows RT and Windows Phone 8 as an incentive for Logos to port to Windows Phone 8? Thanks for listening - Lord bless!0
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I'm afraid if we have to wait until then, it'll be a long wait.
Posted from my Windows Phone.0 -
Although I don't have access to all the tools a native app would provide, I do have access to my Logos library using the free pin it app. You can pin any website to your homepage, and even customize the icon.
Seeing how the YouVersion app needs internet anyway, and bible.faithlife.com has descent mobile navigation, I find this to be the best option at this point. I downloaded the logos icon from their press kit and cropped it on the phone so it looks official and everything. I was going to attach a screenshot, but I can't do that from my phone.
Here's a link to the pin it app: http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=2280bde7-6918-46b5-a468-50a17984c8520 -
Just picked up a Windows phone after having used Android in the past. Here's my vote for a Logos app.
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I was pondering getting a Windows Phone but if there is no Logos app then forget it
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I've read that there's a bit of a lag between snaps which has made me hesitate. Is it that bad?BTW, the camera on the 1020 is outstanding; easily as good or better than a high quality point and shoot (and much more pocketable).
Bk to Logos: Yes the Pocket Bible option looks tempting especially as they allow up to 9 bibles and a few resources to be had for free. Unfortunately neither ESV nor NKJV are free, but ASV is.
Anyway, I see Europe is adopting WP8 phones with significant volume but the US is lagging far behind. What do the Europeans see that the American's can't? What's so different about the American market? Why is WP gaining traction in Europe but not in the US?
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